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Linflas

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Excelsior

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The racism problem in Boston

(idea) by cookiemonster (5.2 y) (print) ? 1 C! Tue Jul 10 2001 at 18:51:28
Despite the fact that many visitors to the city of Boston think this city is a "happy medium" in many ways, we in Boston are far from living happily together.
Of all the cities I've traveled to, Boston is one of the most segregated, racist, and classist. Yes, like many other cities, Boston has a "Little Italy" (we call it the North End) and a Chinatown; these areas are as much for the sake of new immigrants who want the comfort of others who speak their language, as they are tourist attractions. It's the other neighborhoods, the ones that the tourists, business travelers, and college kids don't usually see, that trouble me. We have an Irish neighborhood, a Latino neighborhood, towns outside the city that have been labeled "Jewish towns", and of course the "ghettos" overflowing with African-Americans. For the same ridiculous "reason" that these groups don't get along in other parts of the country and world, they don't get along here AT ALL.

Prime example: a few years ago, the local Irish people were gearing up for their annual famous St. Patrick's Day Parade, and went to the town meeting (or whatever forum it is that you discuss these things) with their proposed parade-route. The parade was to primarily take place in the "Irish neighborhoods", but there was one point on the route, where the parade would have gone down ONE BLOCK in the North End (remember, Boston's Little Italy). The people of the North End who showed up, protested loudly that "those people" can't take "their" parade in "our" neighborhood. A large fight ensued, and in the end I believe the parade route was changed.
Huh?

Unfortunately, many casual observers (and this includes college students who stay in the areas of the city that their schools are for all 4 years) don't see any of this hatred and animosity because these neighborhoods aren't tourist attractions, and are tucked away in parts of the city that I don't think are even printed on the maps they give tourists. So, visitors are impressed with the fact that we have such a "culturally diverse" city with no visible signs of racism or any other hatred. This is so painfully untrue.

Another example:
I grew up in a suburb of Boston, which is known by surrounding towns as "The Jew Town" because of our astronomical Jewish population. Not only does this town have this ugly epithet for a nickname, but at the few high school sporting events I attended (particularly Football), the opposing team's cheerleaders, on more than one occassion, threw bagels and pennies onto the field while our team's cheerleaders were doing their "welcome cheer". Now, this doesn't necessarily reflect upon Boston proper, but for a major metropolitan area North of the Mason-Dixon line, Boston and surroundings is one ugly, hate-filled area.

On a lighter and unrelated note, Boston does have fantastic shopping.

When I was in the Navy I knew a guy in my squadron from Boston who had more names for jewish and black folks than I knew existed.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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amazing how spidey doesn't see the ridiculousness of his post.


hey spidey, guess what, since "whites" make up 65% of the population, almost anywhere you go will be predominantly white, hence, your parody isn't even close to being an accurate parody.

here's one for you, if you said, hey where can a person of british heritage move to be with people of their own cultural heritage, i wouldn't have an answer, but i wouldn't find it offensive either.

amazing that you find the other thread offensive.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Because there has to be a very frank discussion on all parties. No bounds, just honest discussion.

Frankly, whiteys don't care where you are from, what color you are, or whatever. Whitey only care's about your character.

Quoted for stupidity.
 

altonb1

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Feb 5, 2002
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Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.

In many ways, this can all be summed up by pointing the finger at political correctness. Any issue involving different races is considered a hate crime, as long as "whitey" is not the victim. If it is about 6 thugs beating 1 white kid, it's not a hate crime and in fact, it isn't even a crime--it's a reason to talk about how the 6 were persecuted in the 1st place and they are now heroes.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.

In many ways, this can all be summed up by pointing the finger at political correctness. Any issue involving different races is considered a hate crime, as long as "whitey" is not the victim. If it is about 6 thugs beating 1 white kid, it's not a hate crime and in fact, it isn't even a crime--it's a reason to talk about how the 6 were persecuted in the 1st place and they are now heroes.


the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.

i can relate with him because i grew up in Georgia in the early 70's. not the hotlanta metropolitan city of today, but the deep south atlanta.

i prefer living where i don't have to drive 2 hours to get korean food. if you think that is racist, i will disagree with you.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.

In many ways, this can all be summed up by pointing the finger at political correctness. Any issue involving different races is considered a hate crime, as long as "whitey" is not the victim. If it is about 6 thugs beating 1 white kid, it's not a hate crime and in fact, it isn't even a crime--it's a reason to talk about how the 6 were persecuted in the 1st place and they are now heroes.


the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.

i can relate with him because i grew up in Georgia in the early 70's. not the hotlanta metropolitan city of today, but the deep south atlanta.

i prefer living where i don't have to drive 2 hours to get korean food. if you think that is racist, i will disagree with you.


I believe you're oversimplifying the other thread. The OP having access to a Korean restaurant wasn't the only issue.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.

In many ways, this can all be summed up by pointing the finger at political correctness. Any issue involving different races is considered a hate crime, as long as "whitey" is not the victim. If it is about 6 thugs beating 1 white kid, it's not a hate crime and in fact, it isn't even a crime--it's a reason to talk about how the 6 were persecuted in the 1st place and they are now heroes.


the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.

i can relate with him because i grew up in Georgia in the early 70's. not the hotlanta metropolitan city of today, but the deep south atlanta.

i prefer living where i don't have to drive 2 hours to get korean food. if you think that is racist, i will disagree with you.


I believe you're oversimplifying the other thread. The OP having access to a Korean restaurant wasn't the only issue.

did you grow up as an minority? i don't know anything about you, so it is an honest question.


as i said, i grew up in the early 70's in georgia. i know how it feels to grow up with very few other people of my ethnicity or culture around.

it's not a matter of race or "racism", it's a matter of norms and behaviorisms.
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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Put a Union Jack on your car and keep driving south until you hear a Yea Haww. If you hear Salsa music, turn around you've gone to far and try again.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Put a Union Jack on your car and keep driving south until you hear a Yea Haww. If you hear Salsa music, turn around you've gone to far and try again.

i think you mean confederate flag
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Pepsei
this really doesn't make sense since you live in America where almost every city populated by 'whites'. now if you live in china, or maybe 20 years from now when Hispanics took over... maybe..

i'm using the BET argument. (TM)

So...frankly, I am posting straight frank (please, no penis jokes).

Where should I go to embrace and enjoy my whitey culture?

Do people not see this? I post "my whitey culture" with tongue firmly planted in check. But other "cultures" do not have tongue planted in cheek. They're serious. That is cause for concern.

Frankly/Honestly, why can one's "culture" be used to accuse "racism" in one direction and not the other?

-edit-
piss-poor grammar hopefully corrected.

Roseland, NJ
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.

In many ways, this can all be summed up by pointing the finger at political correctness. Any issue involving different races is considered a hate crime, as long as "whitey" is not the victim. If it is about 6 thugs beating 1 white kid, it's not a hate crime and in fact, it isn't even a crime--it's a reason to talk about how the 6 were persecuted in the 1st place and they are now heroes.


the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.

i can relate with him because i grew up in Georgia in the early 70's. not the hotlanta metropolitan city of today, but the deep south atlanta.

i prefer living where i don't have to drive 2 hours to get korean food. if you think that is racist, i will disagree with you.


I believe you're oversimplifying the other thread. The OP having access to a Korean restaurant wasn't the only issue.

did you grow up as an minority? i don't know anything about you, so it is an honest question.


as i said, i grew up in the early 70's in georgia. i know how it feels to grow up with very few other people of my ethnicity or culture around.

it's not a matter of race or "racism", it's a matter of norms and behaviorisms.


I didn't. I'm a white male American.

But this is 2007, and I'd like to think that the poster in the other thread is being unnecessarily concerned with race if he is asking what large metropolitan area with good public transportation is also safe/welcoming to Asian Americans.

I also can understand his desire to get out of a rural environment, but if you grew up in Georgia I'd expect at least part of your culture would be Georgian.
 

rivan

Diamond Member
Jul 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.
the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.
I believe you're oversimplifying the other thread. The OP having access to a Korean restaurant wasn't the only issue.

did you grow up as an minority? i don't know anything about you, so it is an honest question.

it's not a matter of race or "racism", it's a matter of norms and behaviorisms.

The problem is the double standard that exists. The OP in the original thread didn't fall into racist territory, but some of the comments that followed certainly illustrated it.

As for the 'it's a minority thing, you wouldn't understand', that's a tired argument, and one that doesn't hold any water for me.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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This thread is full of win.

Don't worry whiteys soon we'll be a minority and we can say this kind of stuff w/o fear.

:laugh:
 

glutenberg

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Sep 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: altonb1
Actually, while I do not necessarily think Spidey's expression of ideas is the best way to get his point across, I don't necessarily disagree with him, either.
the thread that spidey (in this case "whitey") is referring to has NOTHING to do with crimes. it has to do with the fact that the OP of that thread wanted to live somewhere that access to asian culture is easier, to watch asian tv, listen to asian music and eat asian food.
I believe you're oversimplifying the other thread. The OP having access to a Korean restaurant wasn't the only issue.

did you grow up as an minority? i don't know anything about you, so it is an honest question.

it's not a matter of race or "racism", it's a matter of norms and behaviorisms.

The problem is the double standard that exists. The OP in the original thread didn't fall into racist territory, but some of the comments that followed certainly illustrated it.

As for the 'it's a minority thing, you wouldn't understand', that's a tired argument, and one that doesn't hold any water for me.

How is the argument a tired argument? If anything it's an unresolved argument.
 

ScottFern

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Its very important you find a predominately white area to live in so you can explore and engross yourself in what its like to be white. It's terrible living in an area with different races because it takes away form the white experience! Definitely LAGUNA!
 

rivan

Diamond Member
Jul 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: glutenberg
How is the argument a tired argument? If anything it's an unresolved argument.

It's tired because it's a typical fallback, and assumes that I have to be a minority to have any understanding of racial injustice, which is complete crap.
 
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