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XiZiT

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Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.
 

TecHNooB

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Sep 10, 2005
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There are some knowledgeable people who use H&F but I agree, we need to post a list of names of reliable people and advice should be backed by articles at the very least.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: XiZiT
Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.
One should always take advice given here or even on the health forums with a grain of salt.

 

paulxcook

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May 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: XiZiT
Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.
One should always take advice given here or even on the health forums with a grain of salt.

QFT. Anyone taking important health advice from people on this or any other anonymous forum should know better.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: XiZiT
Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.
One should always take advice given here or even on the health forums with a grain of salt.

QFT. Anyone taking important health advice from people on this or any other anonymous forum should know better.

3rded.

Seriously, life or death? That's retarded. Anyone can sit behind a computer and pretend like they're an expert on the subject. Everything posted in this forum is based on personal experiences, things they've read, etc. This has to be the most retarded post I think I've ever read on AT. (This probably triumphs Jerboi) I like how "official" fitness forums are official because someone claims to put "NASM" Certified in their signature.
 

crt1530

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If you eat 10,000 calories every Sunday and nothing else for the rest of the week, that averages out to ~1,429 calories per day.
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: XiZiT
Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.
One should always take advice given here or even on the health forums with a grain of salt.

QFT. Anyone taking important health advice from people on this or any other anonymous forum should know better.

3rded.

Seriously, life or death? That's retarded. Anyone can sit behind a computer and pretend like they're an expert on the subject. Everything posted in this forum is based on personal experiences, things they've read, etc. This has to be the most retarded post I think I've ever read on AT. (This probably triumphs Jerboi) I like how "official" fitness forums are official because someone claims to put "NASM" Certified in their signature.

Haha, I agree. Looking at the front page of the H&F forum, I don't really see any life or death topics. The most serious, probably being acne. I'd echo what others have said in taking what you read from ANY fitness forum with a grain of salt. Just because somebody is a professional body builder or has a training CERT does not mean you should follow their advice over anyone elses. There are quite a few of both calories that spread incorrect information. Bodybuilding is a very individual activity, and most people post on what has worked/not worked for them.
 

KeithTalent

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The only time I post here is to post my experience with a particular item or topic. I would never consider myself an expert, obviously, but I think relating a personal experience is fine and should be encouraged.

KT
 

skace

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Originally posted by: crt1530
If you eat 10,000 calories every Sunday and nothing else for the rest of the week, that averages out to ~1,429 calories per day.

rofl
 

IceBergSLiM

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Geeks tend to over complicate things. health and fitness just isn't that complicated once you understand the basic principles. Being healthy is 80% diet and 20% consistency in your exercise routine.
 

DAPUNISHER

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In addition to what has been said already-

Are you aware that just 50yrs ago doctors endorsed cigarettes? Or that Jane Fonda and Susan Summers made millions in the fitness industry off of equipment and videos? Or that famous athletes endorse absolute crap if the money is right? Having the proper credentials or looking great does not exclude the possibility that they will dole out bad/unhealthy advice. Particularly given the hordes of viral marketers that infest the net.

Also, how can you have been around Anandtech this long, and still ask such a naive question? When is the last time you saw someone disseminating FUD/mis/disinformation here, get away with it for any length of time? This forum will be/is no different in that respect, the membership here is too diverse, well informed, cynical, and/or willing to do the research required, for that stuff to find a audience. The Anandtech crews' bullshit detectors, are of the finest quality, and precisely calibrated.
 

TecHNooB

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
In addition to what has been said already-

Are you aware that just 50yrs ago doctors endorsed cigarettes? Or that Jane Fonda and Susan Summers made millions in the fitness industry off of equipment and videos? Or that famous athletes endorse absolute crap if the money is right? Having the proper credentials or looking great does not exclude the possibility that they will dole out bad/unhealthy advice. Particularly given the hordes of viral marketers that infest the net.

Also, how can you have been around Anandtech this long, and still ask such a naive question? When is the last time you saw someone disseminating FUD/mis/disinformation here, get away with it for any length of time? This forum will be/is no different in that respect, the membership here is too diverse, well informed, cynical, and/or willing to do the research required, for that stuff to find a audience. The Anandtech crews' bullshit detectors, are of the finest quality, and precisely calibrated.

QFT

 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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Everything I was going to say has been said.

Edit: OK not everything.

Find me an article about anything medical (beyond the basic "sleep is good for you, "Satfat is bad" stuff) and I'll find you a "scholarly" article saying the exact opposite, or at least something different.
 

Koing

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Oct 11, 2000
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I'm very knowledgeable in Olympic weightlifting. I compete, coach and referee. I'm a qualified personal trainer also, not that actually means much with all of these personal trainers in the various gyms. I've trained under my coach for 9yrs now and I have learnt a lot from him. He's 1x World Masters Champ and 6x British Masters Champ.

Someone will usually pull someone up on BS advice like in many forums...

Koing

 

jhu

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
In addition to what has been said already-

Are you aware that just 50yrs ago doctors endorsed cigarettes? Or that Jane Fonda and Susan Summers made millions in the fitness industry off of equipment and videos? Or that famous athletes endorse absolute crap if the money is right? Having the proper credentials or looking great does not exclude the possibility that they will dole out bad/unhealthy advice. Particularly given the hordes of viral marketers that infest the net.

Also, how can you have been around Anandtech this long, and still ask such a naive question? When is the last time you saw someone disseminating FUD/mis/disinformation here, get away with it for any length of time? This forum will be/is no different in that respect, the membership here is too diverse, well informed, cynical, and/or willing to do the research required, for that stuff to find a audience. The Anandtech crews' bullshit detectors, are of the finest quality, and precisely calibrated.

remember what dennilfloss did? i thought it was hilarious, and he got away with it for quite a long time.
 

ibex333

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Originally posted by: XiZiT
Hi, I don't post much as I'm mostly a lurker among forums, but have to give my 2cents here. The H&F forum seems like a good idea but I would be hesitant about giving and receiving advice here. I'm pretty sure people will ask the general questions here as they do elsewhere (bodybuilding.com, fitness.com, etc.) but who exactly is certified or at the very least reputable enough to be giving advice? In contrast to the "official" fitness forums on the web, where active posters and experts, actually post tutorial, videos, and pictures of themselves and others can vouch for them, how can we judge who here knows what they're talking about? And while you may not care, or simply say "well, no one knows the other users in the _____ forum either", you have to remember that when it comes to health and fitness we're talking about your actual health and body. You don't want Joe Shmoe, Warcraft III alpha wizard, to be giving you supposedly 'expert' advice on how much protein you need or the type of supplements you should try/buy.

This is a very dangerous forum in my opinion because it can literally be life or death, or bad health, if given the wrong advice (as opposed to Hot Deals forum, which can lead to minor headaches dealing with rebates).

My 2cents.

I don't agree at all. Anyone with any brains in that head of theirs will check the advice given here, elsewhere on the net. Wherever I get advice, be it here or somewhere else, I always get a "2nd opinion" from another site, and another and another. Once I see many different sites and people say the same thing, I can be pretty damned sure it's a good advice. This tactic has never failed me.

Also there's such a thing as common sense - if something you are doing feels wrong, you stop it! You don't need a professional to keep you from getting hurt, you got YOU for that.
I know many will disagree with me, but if an adult is reading this, he/she should know enough by now to avoid following wrong advice, and if a kid is reading, it's his parents that are responsible for his wellbeing. This forum is the LAST "thing" to blame if anyone gets hurt or dies following advice given here.

This is off topic, but it reminds me of a situation we had in my High School.
Because kids were smoking weed in the bathrooms, the school enforced an idiotic rule where:

1)All bathrooms are closed during the break.
2)Bathrooms are closed first 10 minutes of each class.
3)Bathrooms are closed last 10 minutes of every class.

With a class lasting only 42min or less, this left only 22minutes for people to go to the bathroom. But the idiocy didn't stop there. You couldn't go to the bathroom without the pass, and with everyone needing the pass and being gone for at least 10min(sometimes a lot more), I often ended up in a situation where I couldn't use the bathroom a whole day unless I worked up the balls to simply walk out of the class with the teacher screaming at me behind my back and threatening me to call security. I actually got sent to the dean for this once. This was just a regular public school by the way.

The reason why I mention this is:

Because of the weed smoking kids everyone ended up getting punished and even "hurt" if you want to look at it this way. Same thing with this forum... I'd be quite angry if because of some people who think advice given here might be dangerous to some since it is not given out by qualified professionals, this branch of the forum would be shut down, more heavily moderated or censored in some ways. The philosophy here is very simple. If you feel this forum is dangerous to anyone in any way, don't read it, and don't visit it. If anyone ends up getting hurt or dies - this happened because of their foolishness, and their foolishness alone. I know I might sound very radical in my views, and I apologize if I sound rude in any way. I just felt like I should give my two cents on this matter.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: jhu


remember what dennilfloss did? i thought it was hilarious, and he got away with it for quite a long time.
That was a long time ago, and one of the really good examples of why it is so hard to get away with anything now. As Pres. Bush said "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...we can't get fooled again!"

 

pkme2

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:thumbsup:
One can relate from true life experiences and that could be very effective.

Seeing is believing and reality can be a real attention getter.

I've had a year of Rehab with proper exercise, with proper dieting after a life theatening incident.

A Positive attitude and just doing it will surely be what's needed in any situation.
 
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