Who Cares About Israel?

Shantanu

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Let's see, 2% of all Americans are Jewish. Maybe 2% are Muslim. As for the other 96% of us, do we really give a sh|t about Israel?

Consider this: If there's a homicide in Detroit or Los Angeles, it's probably not going to make the national news. Hell, if it's a busy day, it might not even make the local news. Yet, if even one - insignificant - person gets killed in Israel, it's on the breaking news section at Yahoo.com here in America. Why is that?

The internal affairs of Israel are about as relevant to the average American as, say, the internal affairs of Finland or perhaps Zimbabwe. Yet, we don't hear about those two countries 24/7 (and I am Thankful for that). So why the preoccupation with Israel?

Television you can always turn off. News stations won't get any ratings from me as long as they continue to bore me with that irrelevant tripe. What's particularly distressing is the preoccupation our leaders have with sorting out Israeli affairs. It was reported that Bill Clinton spent more facetime with Yasser Arafat than he did with any one of his cabinet ministers. But let's not dwell on the past... I expected better from Bush, even even he seems to be wasting a lot of his time with this sh|t. Whose running America? Last time I checked, Israel is a developed country, and they seem more than capable enough to handle their own problems. If Yasser Arafat wants to talk, let them talk. If he wants to bomb them, let the Israelis kill him. The point is: what does any of this have to do with America?

The place for arbitration of disputes is the UN, or perhaps the WTO. It is not the job of the American President to waste his time trying to make peace between two warring factions halfway across the globe. Nor is it prudent. What benefit is there to America in involving itself in Israel's problems? Umm... September 11?

Make no mistakes. I thourougly support bombing and killing all terrorist scumbags. The Middle East is important to the U.S. But what's important to the U.S. there is cracking down hard on these terrorists and the Saudi princes that finance them, while still securing oil interests, not wasting time hammering out some useless, bound to fail resolution between Israel and Palestine.

Besides, how many Americans actually give a sh|t about Israel or Palestine?

Furthermore, everytime someone gets killed in Israel, there does not need to be a thread on it.

<-- Not interested in Israel or Palestine.
 

shiner

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Gee....maybe it has something to do with the fact that Israel is our strongest ally in a very volitile and much needed, for it's resources, region.
 

bigrash

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<< Furthermore, everytime someone gets killed in Israel, there does not need to be a thread on it >>



exactly!!
 

Wag

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Considering the fact that they are the only democracy in the middle east, someone better care.

And if you think what's going on in the rest of the world doesn't effect us you have a very short memory.
 

Shantanu

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<< it's good to keep up with world events because we live in this world >>



What pisses me the fsck off is the dominance of irrelevant Israel/Palestine news washes out all the other international news. Hell, international news is synonymous with what's going on in Israel. There's more to the rest of the world than Israel and Palestine. I like to hear about what's going on in the Europe, where I used to live. I like to hear about Mexico and Canada, our neighbors. I like to hear the news from India. Yet, news stories from these regions and all others are shoved aside in favor of Israel/Palestine garbage.

American news sources, both conservative and liberal, are preoccupied with Israeli news. If you want to hear about what's going on in the rest of the world, you have to go to the BBC.
 

gopunk

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<<

<< it's good to keep up with world events because we live in this world >>



What pisses me the fsck off is the dominance of irrelevant Israel/Palestine news washes out all the other international news. Hell, international news is synonymous with what's going on in Israel. There's more to the rest of the world than Israel and Palestine. I like to hear about what's going on in the Europe, where I used to live. I like to hear about Mexico and Canada, our neighbors. I like to hear the news from India. Yet, news stories from these regions and all others are shoved aside in favor of Israel/Palestine garbage.

American news sources, both conservative and liberal, are preoccupied with Israeli news. If you want to hear about what's going on in the rest of the world, you have to go to the BBC.
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it's because what goes on there is what MATTERS. events in mexico, canada, and europe are *relatively* insignificant at this point. besides, you seem to be happy with the BBC, so what's the big deal?
 
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Well, I have to keep this short, I have a movie to catch, but:

1) Israel is an important strategic ally.
2) The middle east in general is an important region (oil)
3) Terrorism has proven itself to be a world problem (sep 11)
4) The conflict in Israel is one of THE biggest wars going on anywhere in the world
5) There is a chance that the Israel fighting could destabling the ME
6) It stops our plans for Iraq dead in the tracks

7) For a combo of these reasons, ISREAL IS THE MOST REPORTED NEWS STORY IN THE HISTORY OF JOURNALISM according to a recent media report

THEREFORE, people talk about it a lot

LOL simple enuf?

Plus... its interesting

More later-

Segan
 

HappyPuppy

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You sound like a Palestinian (Al Quaeda, Taliban, terrorist) infiltrator to ATOT.

Methinks you protesteth too loudly.
 

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<< What pisses me the fsck off is the dominance of irrelevant Israel/Palestine news washes out all the other international news >>



Irrelevant? I think its time you opened your eyes up a little more and took a look at the world.
 

Shantanu

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The really sad thing is that the Israel/Palestine conflict gets more airplay on the news than our own fight in Afghanistan. *sigh* If there's a story in the Middle East worth reporting on these days, you'd thing that would be it. What's relevant in the Middle East is our interests and our security. Not the Jews and the Palestinians.



<< Oil is the reason behind all the trouble in the Middle East. >>



Oil is a relevant story to report on. Contrary to popular belief, however, there is no oil in Israel
 

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<< What's relevant in the Middle East is our interests and our security. Not the Jews and the Palestinians. >>


You're ignorant if you don't think they are one and the same.
 

gopunk

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ok, think of it like this. in the business section of the newspaper, there is often talk about new products, etc. saying that what goes on between palestine and israel is irrelevant to national security is like saying product news is irrelevant to stock prices.
 



<< Let's see, 2% of all Americans are Jewish. >>


And 4% of the population control 80% of the funds.
 

HappyPuppy

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And 4% of the population control 80% of the funds

Ok, I can let a lot of things pass, but this calls for a confrontation. Let's see your statistics, Sammy. Let's see some proof. That statement is so absurd as to be call into question your mental capabilities.

I'm waiting.
 

NFS4

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I stopped caring after the 10 thousandath moron strapped a bomb to his/her body and went on a killing spree. Neither side is innocent. The stone throwers blow up a store and the Israelis launch a few missles and tanks...stir and repeat. Eye for an Eye, yadda yadda yadda.

I thought Bush said during the '00 campaign that he was going to leave Israel the hell alone b/c we've been too buddy buddy with them? I say we keep our mouths shut and let God & Allah sort 'em out.
 

Amused

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This is less about religion, and more about supporting the only democratically free country in the Middle East.

It's also about a country surrounded by nations that took weapons and money from communist countries to try and destroy that only democratically free country.
 

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Sure, its relevant, but not for the reasons that America tries to put forth. Rather than some altruistic (every American action seems to be a sresult of furthering democracy, right? ha) motive, its our addiction to OIL that governs our actions.

How many buildings need to be hit be airplanes before we ween ourselves off the oil, and get ourselves out of the Middle East?

 

Shantanu

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<< I thought Bush said during the '00 campaign that he was going to leave Israel the hell alone b/c we've been too buddy buddy with them? I say we keep our mouths shut and let God & Allah sort 'em out. >>



Damn straight.



<< Sure, its relevant, but not for the reasons that America tries to put forth. Rather than some altruistic (every American action seems to be a sresult of furthering democracy, right? ha) motive, its our addiction to OIL that governs our actions. >>



OK. Look. How many times do I have to explain this? There's oil in the Middle East. There's Israel in the Middle East. There is no oil in Israel. Get it? Though the two have been linked in the past (like the Arab oil embargo), the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians and American involvment in working out - thus far - useless peace agreements has nothing to do with the presence of oil in that region.
 

Nefrodite

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when my enemy is the enemy of someone i'm indifferent to, he is then my friend




<< I thought Bush said during the '00 campaign that he was going to leave Israel the hell alone b/c we've been too buddy buddy with them? I say we keep our mouths shut and let God & Allah sort 'em out. >>



yea great policy, kinda like ignoring hitler if i close my eyes, they don't exist
 

cwjefferys

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because everyone in holywood is a Jew. and amusedone cares about israel because he wants to marry sharon
 
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