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schneiderguy

Lifer
Jun 26, 2006
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Ron Paul 99%
Gary Johnson 99%
Libertarian 99%

Ideologically pure Libertarian master race reporting in.
 

chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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Romney 85%
Paul 82%
McMillan 70%
Johnson 69%
Goode 62%
Obama 34%
Stein 34%

Side by party:

Republican 85%
Libertarian 76%
Democratic 34%
Green 34%

EDIT: Ironic, as I was likely going to vote for O'Bummer over Romney until BHO pulled his latino vote buying BS these past few weeks.

Chuck
 
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MovingTarget

Diamond Member
Jun 22, 2003
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Really? It would seem that is his core base.

Are you planning to vote for Obama? If yes, why?

As a white, married, heterosexual, employed, catholic, and healthy citizen of this nation, I do not identify with any of those groups you listed, but if we are to believe the quiz that is the premise of this thread, it is because he much more closely identifies with my views on actual issues and the direction of this nation. I shouldn't need any other reason. Again, identity politics are the basest of politics.

Unfortunately, my state will undoubtedly go red in November, so my vote is like pissing in the wind. I agreed with people of my state on the listed issues about 75% of the time and the nation 76% of the time. Most people who reject Obama, at least around here, cannot come up with a real reason why. They identify with the conservative 'brand' regardless of the issues. I've always suspected this, so that little result was icing on the cake. But hey, at least I win the right to bitch for another four years.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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I'm assuming you will be voting for Mr. Obama. If that is correct.

That begs the question....Why?

Really, I would like to know.

I suppose you only vote based on what would personally benefit you? In that case, why does Romney benefit you on a personal level?

In a very general sense to give an example, while I have no need for social programs, I do see their necessity. Or, while I am not homosexual, I do believe homosexuals should have the ability to marry or have civil unions. I need not be part of a group to support it as I see required.
 

a777pilot

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2011
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As a white, married, heterosexual, employed, catholic, and healthy citizen of this nation, I do not identify with any of those groups you listed, but if we are to believe the quiz that is the premise of this thread, it is because he much more closely identifies with my views on actual issues and the direction of this nation. I shouldn't need any other reason. Again, identity politics are the basest of politics.

Unfortunately, my state will undoubtedly go red in November, so my vote is like pissing in the wind. I agreed with people of my state on the listed issues about 75% of the time and the nation 76% of the time. Most people who reject Obama, at least around here, cannot come up with a real reason why. They identify with the conservative 'brand' regardless of the issues. I've always suspected this, so that little result was icing on the cake. But hey, at least I win the right to bitch for another four years.

Thank you for your answer.

it is because he much more closely identifies with my views on actual issues and the direction of this nation. I shouldn't need any other reason.

I agree. This is America. You can vote for whom ever you wish and need not tell anyone who that is or why.
 

a777pilot

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2011
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I suppose you only vote based on what would personally benefit you? In that case, why does Romney benefit you on a personal level?

In a very general sense to give an example, while I have no need for social programs, I do see their necessity. Or, while I am not homosexual, I do believe homosexuals should have the ability to marry or have civil unions. I need not be part of a group to support it as I see required.

Mr. Romney and his policies do not benefit me on a personal level. They do however, benefit the nation and our future.

I, too, see a need for some social programs but let's face the reality, they are out of control and mostly not needed.

I, too, feel that homosexuals ought be able to have a civil union. I oppose the idea of marriage.

Thanks for your answer. It was not required, but I do appreciate it.
 

CrackRabbit

Lifer
Mar 30, 2001
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I'm an oddball compared to most posters. But I've always been an oddball.

Candidates you side with...


77%
Jill Stein

on healthcare, social, science, and foreign policy issues.

76%
Gary Johnson

on domestic policy, immigration, foreign policy, and environmental issues.

72%
Barack Obama

on social, economic, and science issues.

70%
Ron Paul

on domestic policy, foreign policy, and environmental issues.

43%
Mitt Romney

on foreign policy and domestic policy issues.



70%
California Voters

on social, domestic policy, healthcare, and science issues.

65%
American Voters

on domestic policy, healthcare, science, and social issues.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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93% Gary Johnson (foreign policy, economic, domestic policy, healthcare, immigration, and science issues).

89% Ron Paul (foreign policy, economic, domestic policy, healthcare, and social issues).

72% Mitt Romney (domestic policy, economic, and healthcare issues).

55% Barack Obama (immigration issues).

44% Missouri Voters (healthcare and social issues).

44% American Voters (healthcare and social issues).
 

the DRIZZLE

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Sep 6, 2007
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I have issues with a few of the questions. For example, the stem cell question asked if you supported federal funding for stem cell research. However, the controversy was not over stem cell research in general but embryonic stem cell research from embryos destroyed to harvest the stem cells.
 

a777pilot

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Apr 26, 2011
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I have issues with a few of the questions. For example, the stem cell question asked if you supported federal funding for stem cell research. However, the controversy was not over stem cell research in general but embryonic stem cell research from embryos destroyed to harvest the stem cells.

Good point.

If stem cell research is so promising, then it ought stay in the private sector. It is not a function of the Federal government.
 

woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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I'm a bit puzzled that it has me agreeing with everyone and every party well over 50% of the time...

86%
Barack Obama

on economic, immigration, social, science, foreign policy, and environmental issues.

74%
Jill Stein

on foreign policy, science, healthcare, and immigration issues.

66%
Gary Johnson

on immigration and healthcare issues.

63%
Mitt Romney

on domestic policy and environmental issues.

61%
Ron Paul

on healthcare and environmental issues.

74%
California Voters

on healthcare, science, foreign policy, and immigration issues.

74%
American Voters

on healthcare, science, foreign policy, and immigration issues.

How can I agree with Gary Johnson and Ron Paul on healthcare and environmental issues when I said I supported Obamacare and environmental regulations?

Maybe it's because I had to take one of the pop-up positions on almost every issue, and those tended to be more moderate or centrist so I wasn't that far away from any one candidate? Or maybe it's because the candidates' positions are not accurately recorded.

- wolf
 

wayliff

Lifer
Nov 28, 2002
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If nothing else it was fun to do. Not surprised about the results but
I was surprised to see so many candidates...likely that interests\media, and you name it, have kept all the others hidden from the public...or I watch too much mainstream media.

Jill Stein - 85%
Gary Johnson - 79%
Barack Obama - 79%
Ron Paul - 70%
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Mitt Romney - 12%
Florida Voters - 68%
American Voters - 68%

Green - 85%
Democtratic - 79%
Libertarian - 75%
Republican - 12%
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Good point.

If stem cell research is so promising, then it ought stay in the private sector. It is not a function of the Federal government.

90%+ of all scientific and medical research is funded by federal grants, and this is how it should be.


good luck with that.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Barack Obama 88%
Jill Stein 83%
Stewart Alexander 72%
Ron Paul 36%
Mittens 5%
 

woolfe9999

Diamond Member
Mar 28, 2005
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OK, I'm back. That didn't take long.

Here.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science


So it would seem that your figure of 90%+ is a bit on the long side.

But thanks for forcing me to look it up.

Yup, you're right. The government(s) here fund about a third of all research, not 90%. But there's a difference between publicly funded research and corporate research. Most corporate research is aimed at developing new products to sell for profit, not benefiting humanity. Also, government research isn't kept under IP projection, but is collectively shared. Public and private research each have different purposes, though admittedly there is some overlap in those purposes.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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Yup, you're right. The government(s) here fund about a third of all research, not 90%. But there's a difference between publicly funded research and corporate research. Most corporate research is aimed at developing new products to sell for profit, not benefiting humanity. Also, government research isn't kept under IP projection, but is collectively shared. Public and private research each have different purposes, though admittedly there is some overlap in those purposes.
Unfortunately a lot of discoveries from government funded research are kept under IP protection. A joint university/industry team makes a discovery or (rarely) an invention, which the university patents. The university then sells the patent, ofttimes to a corporation which wants not to develop it into a marketable product - a massively expensive undertaking - but merely to prevent someone else doing so and disrupting its existing profitable products.

Government almost has to fund basic research in most fields; the time line and expense are simply too unattractive for private industry. But we need a lot of change in the patent process.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Yup, you're right. The government(s) here fund about a third of all research, not 90%. But there's a difference between publicly funded research and corporate research. Most corporate research is aimed at developing new products to sell for profit, not benefiting humanity. Also, government research isn't kept under IP projection, but is collectively shared. Public and private research each have different purposes, though admittedly there is some overlap in those purposes.

Being for profit doesn't mean it's useless. The government did a good job of fixing Polio, but it's also fair to say that private companies do a great job of making drugs that treat all kinds of things. Probably 1/2 of ATOT is on Prozac right now.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Barack Obama 88%
Jill Stein 83%
Stewart Alexander 72%
Ron Paul 36%
Mittens 5%

Close to my own, with 73% agreement with both Colorado & national voters...

If people turn out & vote on the issues, Nov 8 will be a very long night for Mittens.
 

pandemonium

Golden Member
Mar 17, 2011
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This is pretty awesome. I hope more people start using this site to decide their candidates rather than relying on spun media stories or who's the most "charismatic" in their eyes. At least this removes 1 corruptive function of elections. >.>

83% - Jill Stein - on environmental, social, foreign policy, and domestic policy issues
81% - Barack Obama - on environmental, social, and foreign policy issues
76% - Ron Paul - on economic, environmental, and healthcare issues
73% - Gary Johnson - on economic and healthcare issues
67% - Stewart Alexander - on environmental, social, and domestic policy issues
61% - Mitt Romney - on environmental and healthcare issues
51% - Jimmy McMillan - on economic and healthcare issues
16% - Virgil Goode - on healthcare issues

91% - Hawaii Voters [dumb work proxy] - on environmental, economic, foreign policy, and healthcare issues
83% - American Voters - on economic, environmental, foreign policy, and healthcare issues

Who you side with by party...
83% - Green
81% - Democratic
74% - Libertarian
61% - Republican
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Haha, I ended up being two points in favor of Romney over Obama, although I will vote for Obama purely on economic policies that benefit me. The rest of the poll went 56-68% on all other issues.

Quite interesting. Thanks for the link bfdd. I will definetely pass this on. :thumbsup:
 
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