Who DOESN'T smoke weed?

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40Hands

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There are quite a few ignorant asses in this thread! I find it quite funny when people pass judgment on something like this when they obviously have no clue regarding the subject matter. As it's been stated here before, the laws are slowly but surely moving in the right direction.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I haven't done it in almost 15 years, but if it were legal I would probably smoke it once in a great while. Given that it's almost completely harmless, it should be legal.

ALMOST completely harmless would mean it is SOMEWHAT harmful.

Yes but everything is SOMEWHAT harmful. Cannabis is much less carcinogenic than car exhaust for example, and far less poinsonous than potatoes.

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

You substitute the word 'need' for 'want'. The human body experiences pleasure by releasing chemicals into the brain which then reacts to them - they might be released just by reading a book or maybe by skydiving or having sex. Recreational drugs simply allow you to release these chemicals at will. What, in principle, is wrong with that?

Why not read a book or skydive or have sex instead of using something that is more toxic than the other things you have listed? (Assuming your parachute works when you are skydiving and there are no other... influences)
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: ZeroIQ


Uhm what? I never, ever said it was completely legal to do in public. I said states were in the process of reversing the current laws, which they are. I never said you could smoke in public, many places don't even allow you to drink/be intoxicated in public. So, explain, how am I sounding like an idiot?

when you said states are trying to legalize it, then continued to piece together parts of your arguments to prove you didnt say absolutes like that.


Originally posted by: ZeroIQAnd I agree, when it is legal, it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol. Any person with half a cell in their brain would understand the need for common sense rules and regulations.

common sense rules and regs exist solely due to the lack of it in mass general public.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have never taken a recreational drug other than alcohol. I've also never had a narcotic of any sort (prescribed or otherwise). I have a couple dozen friends who are similar, having never done a recreational drug. It's not entirely common, but we're out there.

FWIW I support total legalization of all drugs.

You have never even taken ibuprofen? Must suck to be you when you are in pain. I have had Novocaine injected into me quite a few times. That was for all the teeth I have had pulled. (Like 8 or so teeth I have had pulled I think)

Ibuprofen is not a narcotic - the word comes from 'narcosis', a numbing of the senses, which in turn comes from an old word for sleep. Ibuprofen is an anti-inflamitory.
 

pstylesss

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ


Uhm what? I never, ever said it was completely legal to do in public. I said states were in the process of reversing the current laws, which they are. I never said you could smoke in public, many places don't even allow you to drink/be intoxicated in public. So, explain, how am I sounding like an idiot?

when you said states are trying to legalize it, then continued to piece together parts of your arguments to prove you didnt say absolutes like that.

No, I did not say that. Trident inferred that because he has comprehension problems. Go back and read my posts.
 

Shadow Conception

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Make a better commute? Listen to audio books? I wouldn't mind traffic with a nice audio book on, or music. I like the idea of not having to smoke anything.
Not that I don't respect your choice, but why do you like the idea of staying drug-free so much? What drives you to completely abstain and say no?

Many disorders/ailments require those for you to live life semi-normally. I am ok if you smoke marijuana for medical reasons. I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

We don't need drugs to make our lives better. We want drugs to make ourselves feel good. Now, if you NEED drugs (as in addiction) to live a good life, that's a whole other story, and I agree you're much better off than them. But others? Those that recreationally do drugs in moderation? What's wrong with them? There are many good people that have done marijuana. I see my dad as the ideal role model to follow, and he truly is a great man, despite some flaws. He himself has tried marijuana, as a kid. Does this make him a bad person? This makes his life worse than yours (HAH!)? Your mindset is basically anything that grants easy pleasure composes a bad life. Might as well get rid of the computer and games, too.

Also, when I speak of drugs, I speak of marijuana mainly. Don't try and accuse me of sanctioning meth whores, now.
 
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have never taken a recreational drug other than alcohol. I've also never had a narcotic of any sort (prescribed or otherwise). I have a couple dozen friends who are similar, having never done a recreational drug. It's not entirely common, but we're out there.

FWIW I support total legalization of all drugs.

You have never even taken ibuprofen? Must suck to be you when you are in pain. I have had Novocaine injected into me quite a few times. That was for all the teeth I have had pulled. (Like 8 or so teeth I have had pulled I think)

Is Ibu a narcotic? I didn't realize that if it is. Still, I only take one maybe two or three times a year at most. So even then I'm almost totally drug free. What I meant was that I'd never had a serious pain killer, muscle relaxant, or other similar drug. I have had over the counter cold and allergy medicine (rarely), aspirin, etc.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have never taken a recreational drug other than alcohol. I've also never had a narcotic of any sort (prescribed or otherwise). I have a couple dozen friends who are similar, having never done a recreational drug. It's not entirely common, but we're out there.

FWIW I support total legalization of all drugs.

You have never even taken ibuprofen? Must suck to be you when you are in pain. I have had Novocaine injected into me quite a few times. That was for all the teeth I have had pulled. (Like 8 or so teeth I have had pulled I think)

Is Ibu a narcotic? I didn't realize that if it is. Still, I only take one maybe two or three times a year at most. So even then I almost totally drug free. What I meant was that I'd never had a pain killer, muscle relaxant, or other similar drug. I have had over the counter cold and allergy medicine (rarely), aspirin, etc.

Narcotic can be any kind of drug that lessens the senses. The definition varies.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narcotic

Yeah, I have to take allergy medicine. I am allergic to pollen. It has been getting a lot better recently though... It might be starting up again, I am not sure. I might be "Growing" out of it.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I haven't done it in almost 15 years, but if it were legal I would probably smoke it once in a great while. Given that it's almost completely harmless, it should be legal.

ALMOST completely harmless would mean it is SOMEWHAT harmful.

Yes but everything is SOMEWHAT harmful. Cannabis is much less carcinogenic than car exhaust for example, and far less poinsonous than potatoes.

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

You substitute the word 'need' for 'want'. The human body experiences pleasure by releasing chemicals into the brain which then reacts to them - they might be released just by reading a book or maybe by skydiving or having sex. Recreational drugs simply allow you to release these chemicals at will. What, in principle, is wrong with that?

Why not read a book or skydive or have sex instead of using something that is more toxic than the other things you have listed? (Assuming your parachute works when you are skydiving and there are no other... influences)

Well I might counter - why not do those things while on drugs for double the fun but seriously, cannabis is not really toxic. It's famously easier to kill yourself eating ordinary foods like potatoes than by eating cannabis. It is widely believed to be impossible to eat (let alone smoke) enough cannabis to kill yourself. The same is true of LSD BTW so you have plenty of non-toxic options.

Now with other drugs, yes, you have a point. Every time I use cocaine or MDMA or other amphetamines then I take a risk of negative side effects, or even overdose, but isn't that my choice to make? It might make me crazy in your eyes but it doesn't make me a 'lesser person' as you say... I don't even know what that means...
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: hanoverphist

and any drug that alters your mental perception and slows your response time is a bad thing, especially when behind the wheel of an auto. want to make it legal? go ahead. but you better keep great tabs and control over it like alcohol, getting into an accident while stoned is akin to drunk driving, and also the reason its called DUI instead of DWI.

many who push for legalization agree with that, i think they should tax it, they would make billions

Not really. As soon as it was legalized, prices would plummet. It is too easy to grow on your own. Its a damn weed.
 

TridenT

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Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I haven't done it in almost 15 years, but if it were legal I would probably smoke it once in a great while. Given that it's almost completely harmless, it should be legal.

ALMOST completely harmless would mean it is SOMEWHAT harmful.

Yes but everything is SOMEWHAT harmful. Cannabis is much less carcinogenic than car exhaust for example, and far less poinsonous than potatoes.

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

You substitute the word 'need' for 'want'. The human body experiences pleasure by releasing chemicals into the brain which then reacts to them - they might be released just by reading a book or maybe by skydiving or having sex. Recreational drugs simply allow you to release these chemicals at will. What, in principle, is wrong with that?

Why not read a book or skydive or have sex instead of using something that is more toxic than the other things you have listed? (Assuming your parachute works when you are skydiving and there are no other... influences)

Well I might counter - why not do those things while on drugs for double the fun but seriously, cannabis is not really toxic. It's famously easier to kill yourself eating ordinary foods like potatoes than by eating cannabis. It is widely believed to be impossible to eat (let alone smoke) enough cannabis to kill yourself. The same is true of LSD BTW so you have plenty of non-toxic options.

Now with other drugs, yes, you have a point. Every time I use cocaine or MDMA or other amphetamines then I take a risk of negative side effects, or even overdose, but isn't that my choice to make? It might make me crazy in your eyes but it doesn't make me a 'lesser person' as you say... I don't even know what that means...

Fun is a subjective view.
 

Atheus

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Jun 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: hanoverphist

and any drug that alters your mental perception and slows your response time is a bad thing, especially when behind the wheel of an auto. want to make it legal? go ahead. but you better keep great tabs and control over it like alcohol, getting into an accident while stoned is akin to drunk driving, and also the reason its called DUI instead of DWI.

many who push for legalization agree with that, i think they should tax it, they would make billions

Not really. As soon as it was legalized, prices would plummet. It is too easy to grow on your own. Its a damn weed.

It's hard to grow good stuff though - an amateur might be ale to produce some crappy bush weed but they'd have to smoke buckets of it to get high, and then it really could become harmful, simply due to the amount of smoke you're taking in. It could be as bad as cigarettes. Personally I'd still by from the professionals.
 

Shadow Conception

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I haven't done it in almost 15 years, but if it were legal I would probably smoke it once in a great while. Given that it's almost completely harmless, it should be legal.

ALMOST completely harmless would mean it is SOMEWHAT harmful.

Yes but everything is SOMEWHAT harmful. Cannabis is much less carcinogenic than car exhaust for example, and far less poinsonous than potatoes.

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

You substitute the word 'need' for 'want'. The human body experiences pleasure by releasing chemicals into the brain which then reacts to them - they might be released just by reading a book or maybe by skydiving or having sex. Recreational drugs simply allow you to release these chemicals at will. What, in principle, is wrong with that?

Why not read a book or skydive or have sex instead of using something that is more toxic than the other things you have listed? (Assuming your parachute works when you are skydiving and there are no other... influences)

Well I might counter - why not do those things while on drugs for double the fun but seriously, cannabis is not really toxic. It's famously easier to kill yourself eating ordinary foods like potatoes than by eating cannabis. It is widely believed to be impossible to eat (let alone smoke) enough cannabis to kill yourself. The same is true of LSD BTW so you have plenty of non-toxic options.

Now with other drugs, yes, you have a point. Every time I use cocaine or MDMA or other amphetamines then I take a risk of negative side effects, or even overdose, but isn't that my choice to make? It might make me crazy in your eyes but it doesn't make me a 'lesser person' as you say... I don't even know what that means...

Fun is a subjective view.

How can you judge that kind of fun when you've never had it?
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: tHa ShIzNiT
Its amazing that there are people as stupid as what I'm reading on this thread. To call someone a "lesser person" because they smoke a joint once in a while. I wish, wish, WISH you were right in front of me saying something like that.

As do I. Some of these people are fucking sad.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I haven't done it in almost 15 years, but if it were legal I would probably smoke it once in a great while. Given that it's almost completely harmless, it should be legal.

ALMOST completely harmless would mean it is SOMEWHAT harmful.

Yes but everything is SOMEWHAT harmful. Cannabis is much less carcinogenic than car exhaust for example, and far less poinsonous than potatoes.

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I just think people who do it for recreational use are lesser people. If you need a drug, and you are medically ok, to make your life better then you have even less of a life than me.

You substitute the word 'need' for 'want'. The human body experiences pleasure by releasing chemicals into the brain which then reacts to them - they might be released just by reading a book or maybe by skydiving or having sex. Recreational drugs simply allow you to release these chemicals at will. What, in principle, is wrong with that?

Why not read a book or skydive or have sex instead of using something that is more toxic than the other things you have listed? (Assuming your parachute works when you are skydiving and there are no other... influences)

Well I might counter - why not do those things while on drugs for double the fun but seriously, cannabis is not really toxic. It's famously easier to kill yourself eating ordinary foods like potatoes than by eating cannabis. It is widely believed to be impossible to eat (let alone smoke) enough cannabis to kill yourself. The same is true of LSD BTW so you have plenty of non-toxic options.

Now with other drugs, yes, you have a point. Every time I use cocaine or MDMA or other amphetamines then I take a risk of negative side effects, or even overdose, but isn't that my choice to make? It might make me crazy in your eyes but it doesn't make me a 'lesser person' as you say... I don't even know what that means...

Fun is a subjective view.

"don't knock it til you try it"?

I suppose it would be very hard to understand if the closest you've ever experienced to an altered state of mind is a mild case of the flu. I can only assure you it is possible to experience some amazing things by using psychoactive substances. If you don't want any then that's fine, but there's no point argueing against other people doing it, because you don't even get why they do it...
 

FeuerFrei

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Never touched the stuff. DO NOT WANT.

Been offered it a couple times.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Cough cough... too strong.

:laugh:
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Babbles

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I have never tried it.

That being said when I was 16 I went to a Nine Inch Nails concert where I was probably the only one that did not light up and I am pretty sure there was a contact high involved.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: v1001
Never tried it and never will. Jack tards smoke pot. Anyone who I've ever met in life who smokes it, it shows.

Bill Clinton? That's right, it didn't count because he didn't inhale.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: hanoverphist

and any drug that alters your mental perception and slows your response time is a bad thing, especially when behind the wheel of an auto. want to make it legal? go ahead. but you better keep great tabs and control over it like alcohol, getting into an accident while stoned is akin to drunk driving, and also the reason its called DUI instead of DWI.

many who push for legalization agree with that, i think they should tax it, they would make billions

Not really. As soon as it was legalized, prices would plummet. It is too easy to grow on your own. Its a damn weed.

It's hard to grow good stuff though - an amateur might be ale to produce some crappy bush weed but they'd have to smoke buckets of it to get high, and then it really could become harmful, simply due to the amount of smoke you're taking in. It could be as bad as cigarettes. Personally I'd still by from the professionals.

Umm...no. Not hard at all. The pros are good at getting high yields. Quality is easy if you have the right seeds.

But again, as soon as it was legalized, the market would flood. You would not be paying $20/gram. $2/gram would be plausible.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: v1001
Never tried it and never will. Jack tards smoke pot. Anyone who I've ever met in life who smokes it, it shows. And it's really pathetic how they want to shove it down anyones throat who doesn't.

Combine this with your post in the Blu-ray thread and it's official: you're an idiot.

KT
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Anubis
your market must suck if you are paying $20 a gram

Since he was first talking about quality, I'm assuming he was saying real good stuff costs $20/g. And that sounds about right considering all the competition here on a college campus and that's about what it seems to be down here too. Talking dank though.
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: hanoverphist

and any drug that alters your mental perception and slows your response time is a bad thing, especially when behind the wheel of an auto. want to make it legal? go ahead. but you better keep great tabs and control over it like alcohol, getting into an accident while stoned is akin to drunk driving, and also the reason its called DUI instead of DWI.

many who push for legalization agree with that, i think they should tax it, they would make billions

Not really. As soon as it was legalized, prices would plummet. It is too easy to grow on your own. Its a damn weed.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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