Who DOESN'T smoke weed?

Page 14 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
50,419
8
81
So just because you learned they smoke, you don't look up to them anymore?

:roll:

They're still the same people. The only thing that changed is your perception; the problem is with you, not them.

Hint: Just about everyone on the planet has at least tried it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,179
13,749
136
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: sash1

that's fine, think whatever you want. not my problem you don't have a good connection.

This is all conjecture at this point, so unless we want to start breaking out budshots, we should just end this silliness here.

I agree, but the limited evidence I was presented with makes a strong case for him.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
20,577
432
126
Originally posted by: Atheus
I find that if you ask, and people trust you, you'll find that most people in their 20s and 30s do drugs. Not just weed either but cocaine and E and other party drugs. There are always a few in any group of people who don't use and they tend not to know that everyone else does. Normally they don't even pick up on it if you talk about drugs directly in front of them - they don't get the slang and think you're talking about something else.

Accurate. I find that the vast majority of people I run into have run the gamut just to see what it's like. Few do anything more than pot on a regular basis (if even that), but I think it's natural for most people - especially those with higher than average intelligence and an accompanying inquisitive nature - to have experimented to see what all these awful, illegal drugs will do to their brains.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
goddamnit i gotta leave this thread.

i can talk about herb all day.
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
50,419
8
81
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: sash1

that's fine, think whatever you want. not my problem you don't have a good connection.

This is all conjecture at this point, so unless we want to start breaking out budshots, we should just end this silliness here.

I agree, but the limited evidence I was presented with makes a strong case for him.

I think I get the gist of the argument here, and he's full of shit.

I don't doubt that he can source it for 40$, but there's no way that its good stuff.

In Oregon, it was pretty much universally 40$ for an eighth of an ounce, or 3.5 grams.

Anything cheaper was schwag. I guess it's all relative though. If whatever he gets is all he is used to, then he has no concept of what is better.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
41,908
2,141
126
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I can honestly say I have never smoked anything, or used any illegal substance. Ever. And I was a musician in a bar band too!

I saw what drug use did to all of my musical heroes in the 70's, and vowed never to touch the stuff.

You like hendrix?

Pretty sure he wasn't killed by anything illegal.

Any of your heroes die from too much ganja?

Clapton nearly killed himself from drug use, Jimmy Page's hands were so numbed up from heroin that he couldn't playing well for nearly 5 years after he kicked the habit (which was around the mid 80's), Morrison, Joplin, it's a big list.

Absolutely none of that is from cannabis.

Drugs are drugs. None of that was from crystal meth either, and I'm not going to be trying that anytime soon.
 

Beev

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2006
7,775
0
0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Drugs are drugs. None of that was from crystal meth either, and I'm not going to be trying that anytime soon.

That is a horrible perception. By your logic all alcohol is alcohol and a 4.5% AC beer is the exact same thing as 90% AC Everclear.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,179
13,749
136
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: sash1

that's fine, think whatever you want. not my problem you don't have a good connection.

This is all conjecture at this point, so unless we want to start breaking out budshots, we should just end this silliness here.

I agree, but the limited evidence I was presented with makes a strong case for him.

I think I get the gist of the argument here, and he's full of shit.

I don't doubt that he can source it for 40$, but there's no way that its good stuff.

In Oregon, it was pretty much universally 40$ for an eighth of an ounce, or 3.5 grams.

Anything cheaper was schwag. I guess it's all relative though. If whatever he gets is all he is used to, then he has no concept of what is better.

I can only speak through the experiences of my friend, who is well versed in these matters, that lived in upstate NY (so, the same region) until last year and the statements corroborate each other.
 

sash1

Diamond Member
Jul 20, 2001
8,896
1
0
Originally posted by: Eli
I think I get the gist of the argument here, and he's full of shit.

I don't doubt that he can source it for 40$, but there's no way that its good stuff.

In Oregon, it was pretty much universally 40$ for an eighth of an ounce, or 3.5 grams.

Anything cheaper was schwag. I guess it's all relative though. If whatever he gets is all he is used to, then he has no concept of what is better.


:roll:
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: sash1

that's fine, think whatever you want. not my problem you don't have a good connection.

This is all conjecture at this point, so unless we want to start breaking out budshots, we should just end this silliness here.

I agree, but the limited evidence I was presented with makes a strong case for him.

I think I get the gist of the argument here, and he's full of shit.

I don't doubt that he can source it for 40$, but there's no way that its good stuff.

In Oregon, it was pretty much universally 40$ for an eighth of an ounce, or 3.5 grams.

Anything cheaper was schwag. I guess it's all relative though. If whatever he gets is all he is used to, then he has no concept of what is better.

I can only speak through the experiences of my friend, who is well versed in these matters, that lived in upstate NY (so, the same region) until last year and the statements corroborate each other.

I'm sure the personal experience of him and your friend > the entire CA MMJ community.

lol
 

cheezy321

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2003
6,218
2
0
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: sash1

that's fine, think whatever you want. not my problem you don't have a good connection.

This is all conjecture at this point, so unless we want to start breaking out budshots, we should just end this silliness here.

I agree, but the limited evidence I was presented with makes a strong case for him.

I think I get the gist of the argument here, and he's full of shit.

I don't doubt that he can source it for 40$, but there's no way that its good stuff.

In Oregon, it was pretty much universally 40$ for an eighth of an ounce, or 3.5 grams.

Anything cheaper was schwag. I guess it's all relative though. If whatever he gets is all he is used to, then he has no concept of what is better.

I can only speak through the experiences of my friend, who is well versed in these matters, that lived in upstate NY (so, the same region) until last year and the statements corroborate each other.

Then why are places like Northern California and Canada thought of as the "bud capitals" of North America and places like upstate New York and Maine, which according to both of you have top quality marijuana at 60% of the price, not even have a dot on the map?

EDIT: $40 an 8th is reasonable for quality Bud. $40 for a quad of high quality marijuana doesn't happen.
 

DarrelSPowers

Senior member
Jul 9, 2008
781
1
0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I can honestly say I have never smoked anything, or used any illegal substance. Ever. And I was a musician in a bar band too!

I saw what drug use did to all of my musical heroes in the 70's, and vowed never to touch the stuff.

You like hendrix?

Pretty sure he wasn't killed by anything illegal.

Any of your heroes die from too much ganja?

Clapton nearly killed himself from drug use, Jimmy Page's hands were so numbed up from heroin that he couldn't playing well for nearly 5 years after he kicked the habit (which was around the mid 80's), Morrison, Joplin, it's a big list.

You didn't answer the question.

Clapton, Page, Morrison, Joplin, were all heroin related right? You won't hear me argue that there's anything good about smack.

My cousin is a heroin addict... and it all started when he decided to stop smoking weed because opium didn't show up on his drug tests.

He's not an 'idiot' either, unless otherwise successful physics majors are.

If this isn't evidence that there's something wrong with the status quo, I'm not sure what is.

If thats not evidence
 

Beev

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2006
7,775
0
0
(Trying to pull away from the arguing )

How many smokes can you usually get via pipe with an 8th? How many joints can be rolled?
 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
29,178
1
81
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I can honestly say I have never smoked anything, or used any illegal substance. Ever. And I was a musician in a bar band too!

I saw what drug use did to all of my musical heroes in the 70's, and vowed never to touch the stuff.

You like hendrix?

Pretty sure he wasn't killed by anything illegal.

Any of your heroes die from too much ganja?

Clapton nearly killed himself from drug use, Jimmy Page's hands were so numbed up from heroin that he couldn't playing well for nearly 5 years after he kicked the habit (which was around the mid 80's), Morrison, Joplin, it's a big list.

Absolutely none of that is from cannabis.

Drugs are drugs. None of that was from crystal meth either, and I'm not going to be trying that anytime soon.

Oh my, yes. I hope you've the same attitude towards Alcohol, tobacco, coffee, hot sauce or driving fast, because "drugs are drugs" :roll:
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
359
126
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Atheus
I find that if you ask, and people trust you, you'll find that most people in their 20s and 30s do drugs. Not just weed either but cocaine and E and other party drugs. There are always a few in any group of people who don't use and they tend not to know that everyone else does. Normally they don't even pick up on it if you talk about drugs directly in front of them - they don't get the slang and think you're talking about something else.

Accurate. I find that the vast majority of people I run into have run the gamut just to see what it's like. Few do anything more than pot on a regular basis (if even that), but I think it's natural for most people - especially those with higher than average intelligence and an accompanying inquisitive nature - to have experimented to see what all these awful, illegal drugs will do to their brains.

Same. Drugs don't turn people into these ravaging maniacs or worthless sloths. People do that. The drugs are there for whatever you seek from them.

I've known many that have achieved great grades in school and functioned extremely well, some even going into general management, who still toke up from time to time, if not somewhat often or even on a weekly basis.

I will very much liken weed to alcohol in many ways. It's a chemical that should be ingested only on occasion, not daily. When you get into daily, you start wanting to pursue different things. Using it once or twice a week, or maybe even just a couple hits every day, would be like going out on Friday and Saturday night to the bars/clubs, and maybe drinking a couple beers every night after work while you eat dinner or wind down the night.
I'm having trouble really figuring out if its the drug changing the person, or the person changing to fit a certain perceived lifestyle for the drug.

Although even to that point, I've known successful individuals who would maybe toke up a bowl every night to relax after work, and still maintained the successful lifestyle with no setbacks due to the plant. Everyone has a different use for it, and I guess those different uses, coupled with the lifestyle they make for it, lends itself to what kind of a problem, if any, they could have.

But I'd say, I wouldn't consider those types to be either potheads or alcoholics. Sometimes its merely for the enjoyment of the material and the release of stress in doing so, versus a feeling of need for the material just to return to baseline. Two different approaches. Yes, both are almost inherently the same exact approach, but its the mindset.

Those with addictive personalities can even start out as the former group, but quickly turn into the 'need it' group. With potheads, the most common approach I've seen is this: starts out maybe once a month or so, maybe less, then more opportunities pop up and they are seized. Turns into every week, and these people often do certain things after smoking. For the high school and college crowd (what I've experienced up till this point for the most part), it often was video games, movies, or just going out and doing the most random things, almost always with a group though.
But for those that take it further, it steps from the weekly into the daily or couple times a week. Maybe they play video games or watch a lot of movies, and they really enjoyed doing that while high. Now it turns into getting high every time they do that.

This is most likely strictly a school-age phenomenon for the most part. Once the real world comes, habits will change/adapt to meet the needs, especially if they still managed to be successful in school and getting into the workplace. These people might either just screw up and end up the total pothead, or they might adapt and return it to just being a release at night or try and step it down to being an occasional thing and that's it.


I can imagine I'll have trouble if it's ever legalized. Granted, that's if its made fully legal and my future profession treats it like all the other legal substances. I know I have an addictive personality, and I do my best to control it so I can lead a good life. Mainly because I saw what happened to my mom's brother who was and still is a complete mess, and is where I definitely got some of my 'traits' from.
Then again, if it is legalized, maybe some of the stigma, and the issue of it not being everywhere and having to use it secretly, would make it easier to enjoy but still moderate, even with that personality trait. If it were legal I'd treat it just like alcohol, as not to mention I would have a full time job that would require my full intellect during the off-hours as well. Then again I don't know if I even see this happening in the next 10 years, if it ever becomes legal in my lifetime. Decriminalized is one thing, but that means people still require drug tests then.
 

cheezy321

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2003
6,218
2
0
Originally posted by: Beev
(Trying to pull away from the arguing )

How many smokes can you usually get via pipe with an 8th? How many joints can be rolled?

To be safe, I would say a fat bowl is around .3 grams. A fat joint is around .8 - 1 gram.

So 3.5 / .3 = 11.6 bowls

3.5 / .8 = 4.3 joints
 

DarrelSPowers

Senior member
Jul 9, 2008
781
1
0
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Beev
(Trying to pull away from the arguing )

How many smokes can you usually get via pipe with an 8th? How many joints can be rolled?

To be safe, I would say a fat bowl is around .3 grams. A fat joint is around .8 - 1 gram.

So 3.5 / .3 = 11.6 bowls

3.5 / .8 = 4.3 joints

Now that's my kinda math.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,179
13,749
136
Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm sure the personal experience of him and your friend > the entire CA MMJ community.

lol

Let's not forget that everything costs more in California, eh?
I'm just saying you guys are all "No way that's possible" when you really don't know, you're just being snobs who either need to get on a plane and judge for themselves or STFU
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,179
13,749
136
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Then why are places like Northern California and Canada thought of as the "bud capitals" of North America and places like upstate New York and Maine, which according to both of you have top quality marijuana at 60% of the price, not even have a dot on the map?

EDIT: $40 an 8th is reasonable for quality Bud. $40 for a quad of high quality marijuana doesn't happen.

Because it's freaking BFE and nobody lives up there--and I don't know if you noticed, but upstate NY and Maine happen to share a border with Canada.
I hear it's the trade-off for the arctic winters they endure.
 

cheezy321

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2003
6,218
2
0
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm sure the personal experience of him and your friend > the entire CA MMJ community.

lol

Let's not forget that everything costs more in California, eh?
I'm just saying you guys are all "No way that's possible" when you really don't know, you're just being snobs who either need to get on a plane and judge for themselves or STFU

This is true, but word would spread quickly of this "weed mecca" where quads of any buds you desire are only $40! It would be like El Dorado for the stoners of the world. Smokers all around the country would talk about it!
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm sure the personal experience of him and your friend > the entire CA MMJ community.

lol

Let's not forget that everything costs more in California, eh?
I'm just saying you guys are all "No way that's possible" when you really don't know, you're just being snobs who either need to get on a plane and judge for themselves or STFU

I have gotten on a plane actually, which is why I KNOW that CA bud > your shit northeast bud

Except maybe NY...


And perhaps we know it's not possible because we've run the numbers? Just a thought...


BTW, you've got to be kidding if you think people are willing to smuggle drugs from CA to NY for 40/quad
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |