Who else thinks the 8800GT sucks?

[imported_cambit69]

i got an evga 8800GTS 320MB and the 8800GT is only marginally faster. It ain't worth it for me to go through all the hassle to buy a new one, sell the old one or jump through the hoops for the step-up program.

sure its faster, cooler, cheaper but not by much. where the hell is the competition from ATI? who else thinks nvidia has something faster up their sleeves but are delaying it because of lack of competition? I feel bad for the people who just purchased a GTX or Ultra.

 

[jonks]

so this post was lucky number 13, eh? I'm ducking.

It's almost as powerful as last gen's best card for half the price. No, it doesn't suck.

 

[LightningRider]

I don't think the 8800GT sucks. It's a great midrange card, especially the 256MB version if people don't have big monitors but I am also interested in what the 9800GTX will be like. I hope they don't take too long to announce and release it... My 8800GTS can't handle Crysis with my new monitor...

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

The 8800 GT is the best thing in a long time. It's not meant to be the new super high-end fast part that you want. It's powerful, it consumes little energy compared to the GTX, and the price is quite reasonable. It's a mid-range card, and it does a great job at that.

 

[Syntax Error]

It has a great price-to-performance ratio and gives us gamers-on-a-budget (i.e., poor college student where the UCs are eating up our monies :[ ) a chance to actually play newer games. Not all of us have mommy and daddy pay for our crap, you know!

 

[swtethan]

This 8800gt has been the best bang for the buck card since the x800XL!

 

[Extelleron]

It's a good card, but it's not amazing or anything special as many people make it out to be. The reason people see it as being so amazing is because there has been a real lack of any good cards since last November.

The 8800GT is not, however, better than what we've seen in the past, in fact it's not nearly as a good as the 7900GT was. The 8800GT is slightly slower than last year's high end for $250, the 7900GT was sightly faster than the previous year's high end for $300.

It's a good card, yes, but nothing we haven't seen before. I really want to see a card that will finally be FASTER than the GTX.

 

[Munky]

The 8800gt doesn't suck, it's the most impressive midrange card I've seen in a long time. It wasn't meant to be an upgrade for those who bought a 8800gts, instead it's a better alternative for those who haven't bought one.

 

[imported_cambit69]

ok if you're coming from a 6800 i can see this being amazing for you. but what about the people with 8800GTS, GTX and ultras? it's not like its going to run crysis any better. the folks who bought the 8800GTS when it came out earlier this year, we waited 6 months for this?!? wtf

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: cambit69
ok if you're coming from a 6800 i can see this being amazing for you. but what about the people with 8800GTS, GTX and ultras? it's not like its going to run crysis any better. the folks who bought the 8800GTS when it came out earlier this year, we waited 6 months for this?!? wtf

I dropped my GTS640 for thie cause, its a performance upgrade + feature upgrade for free, also I got to buy a aftermarket sink for the card with the extra $50 i made

 

[Munky]

Anyone waiting for a GTS or GTX replacement should not expect to find it in a card named a GT.

 

[dreddfunk]

Hmm....I'd tend to agree with munky.

If you look at the targeted price range--especially the comments about having sub-200 parts, the 8800gt almost seems to be a replacement for the midrange to upper midrange, depending on how you categorize pricing points.

I don't think it is a parallel part to the 7900gt, it seems more like the 7900gs.

In fact, I think we will see the 7900gt-parallel in mid-november: a respun 8800GTS with 128 shaders on a 65nm process, with a 256-bit bus and 512MB of memory that pulls slightly ahead of the GTX for around $300-350, depending on competition.

The 8800gt seems positioned like the 7900gs, while the new 8800gts due out in a few weeks seems to mirror the 7900gt.

Both great values, IMHO.

Now here's hoping that the new AMD/ATI offering puts pricing and performance pressure on NVIDIA.

 

[fishmonger12]

Originally posted by: cambit69
ok if you're coming from a 6800 i can see this being amazing for you. but what about the people with 8800GTS, GTX and ultras? it's not like its going to run crysis any better. the folks who bought the 8800GTS when it came out earlier this year, we waited 6 months for this?!? wtf

If you need to upgrade from an 8800 GTS you either have unlimited or nearly unlimited money to spend or are retarded and didn't plan far enough in advance when you bought your card.

Get over yourself and go whine somewhere else.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Extelleron
It's a good card, but it's not amazing or anything special as many people make it out to be. The reason people see it as being so amazing is because there has been a real lack of any good cards since last November.

The 8800GT is not, however, better than what we've seen in the past, in fact it's not nearly as a good as the 7900GT was. The 8800GT is slightly slower than last year's high end for $250, the 7900GT was sightly faster than the previous year's high end for $300.

It's a good card, yes, but nothing we haven't seen before. I really want to see a card that will finally be FASTER than the GTX.

When you say the 7900gt was faster than the previous years high end, did you mean the 7800GTX? Because it wasn't faster than the 7800gtx. See http://www.legitreviews.com/article/322/1/ and other reivews.

And it cost $300 as you said. The 8800GT is almost at GTX levels for $250. I think that makes it more impressive.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It still tanks in DX10 like every card available now. Until a card can run DX10 fully featured (i.e crysis on very high) with good fps (no less than 30 at the min). I'm not going to care.

 

[dreddfunk]

cmdr - I can understand how that would be your take. If I had an HD2900XT, I'd most certainly feel the same.

As it is, sitting here with an X850XT trying to run Oblivion and Lord of the Rings Online at 1920x1200 on the new monitor I got for a birthday/father's day gift, I'm exceptionally interested in a card like the 8800GT.

But, like I said, I can appreciate your position as well.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: munky
The 8800gt doesn't suck, it's the most impressive midrange card I've seen in a long time. It wasn't meant to be an upgrade for those who bought a 8800gts, instead it's a better alternative for those who haven't bought one.

Midrange? Whats the high-end then? Surely not GTX or Ultra, considering how close their are, yet so much more expensive. The name and price might suggest midrange but its not. Its the-card-that-made-a-whole-set-of-products-obsolete. :Q

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: dreddfunk
cmdr - I can understand how that would be your take. If I had an HD2900XT, I'd most certainly feel the same.

As it is, sitting here with an X850XT trying to run Oblivion and Lord of the Rings Online at 1920x1200 on the new monitor I got for a birthday/father's day gift, I'm exceptionally interested in a card like the 8800GT.

But, like I said, I can appreciate your position as well.

Someone bought a 2900XT? Wow. Do they still make them?

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: munky
The 8800gt doesn't suck, it's the most impressive midrange card I've seen in a long time. It wasn't meant to be an upgrade for those who bought a 8800gts, instead it's a better alternative for those who haven't bought one.

Midrange? Whats the high-end then? Surely not GTX or Ultra, considering how close their are, yet so much more expensive. The name and price might suggest midrange but its not. Its the-card-that-made-a-whole-set-of-products-obsolete. :Q

:Q I guess it should be put into its own category until the next refresh gts's and gtx's come

 

[dennilfloss]

Best midrange card I ever bought was my Radeon 9500 Pro. A little flashing and I could overclock it stable almost to 9700 Pro levels.

 

[dreddfunk]

Gris - I think that is a little bit of an overstatement. It occupies the same price bracket as the 8800GTS 320MB right now and clearly beats it, as well as providing performance that makes the purchase of either an 8600GTS or an 8800GTS 640MB a somewhat dubious decision.

So what we really have is a new upper-mid-range/lower-high-end part that beats all other existing upper-mid-range/lower-high-end parts.

The real reason everyone seems to be going ape over the parts seems two-fold:

1) there has been *no* competition in the $250 bracket, where we used to see some great performance parts, for more than a year.
2) the self-nominated 'midranged' offerings from both NVIDIA and ATI were ridiculously crippled compared to their high-end counterparts.

Those two factors created a huge gap in the market that was just begging to be filled.

The only thing that surprises me is the NVIDIA filled it first, despite no competition from ATI. Kudos to them.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: fishmonger12

Originally posted by: cambit69
ok if you're coming from a 6800 i can see this being amazing for you. but what about the people with 8800GTS, GTX and ultras? it's not like its going to run crysis any better. the folks who bought the 8800GTS when it came out earlier this year, we waited 6 months for this?!? wtf

If you need to upgrade from an 8800 GTS you either have unlimited or nearly unlimited money to spend or are retarded and didn't plan far enough in advance when you bought your card.

Get over yourself and go whine somewhere else.

:thumbsup:

 

[imported_cambit69]

:Q I guess it should be put into its own category until the next refresh gts's and gtx's come

when will the next refresh of GTX/GTS come? and why bother when 99% of the people here are happy with a craptastic 8800GT that can't even run DX10 at acceptable levels. so many people bitching they can't run crysis so they go out and buy a 8800GT like its going to help them. two days from now, the people who are scrambling to order 8800gt's today for crysis are going to install it into their system and feel dumb.

as for the rumored GTS 640 with 112P's, all i got to say is WTF nvidia wheres the 9800GTS, its been almost a year now since G80 launch, and all we have now is this??

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: dreddfunk
cmdr - I can understand how that would be your take. If I had an HD2900XT, I'd most certainly feel the same.

As it is, sitting here with an X850XT trying to run Oblivion and Lord of the Rings Online at 1920x1200 on the new monitor I got for a birthday/father's day gift, I'm exceptionally interested in a card like the 8800GT.

But, like I said, I can appreciate your position as well.

Someone bought a 2900XT? Wow. Do they still make them?

I've had it for a while...and I'm not disappointed in it one bit. Not one bit. Please watch the attacks on either side per the moderator's sticky, or did you forget to read it? :roll:

I am simply saying that the 8800GT and any card you can buy today tanks in DX10 which is what we all need sooner rather than later. Flight Sim X, Crysis, and some others are almost completely unplayable at the resolutions many people play at.

When a card can do that then I'm interested. DX9 is running fine on current 8800 and HD2900 cards. Not much need for faster in that area.

 

[AzN]

Cards need to be twice as fast as 8800gt to play dx10 titles. 20fps won't cut it especially for online play.

People are jumping the gun but you should really wait for Rv670 since it's also dx10.1. Who knows it might slaughter GTX and make crysis actually playable on highest settings.