Who has had an impossible burger?

[Captante]

My daughter just had one of these delivered to me ... You-Tube-burger?

*(minus cheese, added 3rd patty/lettuce)

Mr Beast Burger


I was fully expecting extreme disappointment and perhaps nausea/vomiting as well HOWEVER shockingly I must say both the burger and the fries, while nothing really special were still pretty dang good! (how's that for "impossible"?)

Did a bit of review-reading just now and it seems Mr Beast is a HUGE "YMMV" burger option since the quality 100% depends on whatever local place actually makes the burger. As it happens the place that serves my area is called the Founders House (Milford, CT) and has decent food.

No promises anywhere else!

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Meh, I'm waiting for when they create the meat where it actually grows in a lab or whatever. Not the soy shit.

Anyhow, texas always makes me proud. Here's the meat section when I went shortly after the deep freeze.

 

[mindless1]

The discussion evolved into a growing plants vs raising meat, especially cows, discussion. Also nobody was arguing anything extreme like we need to rid ourselves of anything that produces C02 in its entirety, or anything like that. I think most people here, including me, eat meat. So you are making a point to argue against nobody brought up. But one can't have a discussion if you don't want to exist in reality.

It's good you can just cover your ears and eyes like a 5 year old and yell 'nanny nanny poo poo, I can't hear you' by calling anything you don't like as faux science without posting a shred of evidence to counter it. Enjoy living life in la la land.

Quite the opposite, you couldn't counter what I wrote then started making blanket statements that I refuse to cooperate with the lies, when you had no counter.

This is why I am not interested in this topic any longer, because you are not thinking based on facts and science. You'd rather rely on pseudo-science with a political aka social manipulation agenda than address the glaring holes in it.

 

[mindless1]

Sunlight alone is useless in deserts or areas with unsuitable land. Kingdom Plantae's needs vary extraordinarily depending on the specific plant that is being grown.

Nobody suggested everything can grow everywhere. Obviously you use the land/climate most suited for it. There's plenty of that in the US, but anyone can look at a google map and tell you where grass/etc grows based on a green color. Where it's green, cattle can feed. Seems too simple, but it really isn't.

While I live near a major metropolitan area, if I drive more than about 4 miles in a couple directions, every other larger property has cattle on it grazing away. If someone tells those cows they can't survive there, they will ignore it and keep on grazing.

 

[MrSquished]

Quite the opposite, you couldn't counter what I wrote then started making blanket statements that I refuse to cooperate with the lies, when you had no counter.

This is why I am not interested in this topic any longer, because you are not thinking based on facts and science.

You have posted not a single source, of any type, reputable or not, to counter any of the number of sources I posted, which are based on science - you just simply said 'FAKE SCIENCE', similar to something a 5 year old, or any current Trumphumper would do. FAKE NEWS BRO!

 

[mindless1]

I told you why it was impossible but you don't want to bother addressing this. That's not at all the same as just declaring fake news, rather YOU are the one who refused to continue an intelligent discussion and stated making blanket statements that I dropped the ball first.

So, instead of only searching for faux science articles, how about you search for articles about the half life of methane, or the % sources for CO2 in livestock and compare against ALL the same sources for food crops?

You really don't get it do you? The problem is that we aren't eating the entirety of the protein source crop. It's that we are extracting the small amount of protein which means growing multiple times as much to get there, and that process is lossy in itself.

Further, you keep refusing to accept that it is not efficiency that matters, rather the process/method and which environmental issues it causes. You linked data which is similarly clueless about this, as if all "greenhouse gasses" are the same when they are not.

It does not matter how efficient it is. It matters what the byproducts are, and your faux science did not at all address the solution I presented which was free range cattle.

You completely ignored the solution then want to bury your head in the sand and pretend there isn't one, instead wanting far more environmental impact from wastefully growing tons of plants to extract protein when we already have a way to do that which is natural and sustainable, has been for millions of years.

How many times did I write method? You must like to ignore details, which is why this topic is such a waste of time for me so against by better judgement, came back after unsubscribed.

Go ahead and contribute to the problem if you want massive crop waste in order to make faux burgers. Hint: For hundreds (no, several thousands) of years, this was not a problem with livestock. It's only the same modern farming methods that are used to grow the crops for protein extraction, causing it. Again allow me to remind you that methane has a very short half life compared to CO2. The end.

 

[WelshBloke]

Not necessarily, but again it isn't about efficiency. Efficiency does not matter as long as it isn't at a burdomsome low level to the point where there isn't enough food. You can do something very inefficiently and still have a lower environmental impact. For example those who grow their own small scale garden food, do so very inefficiently but can have a lower environmental impact than modern farming.

Raising vegetable protein crops for mass faux meat production requires growing (and weeding or GMO) a specific crop, and amending the soil or rotating crops.

Cattle on the other hand, given enough area can free range graze for a large portion if not the entirety of their diet, and can be driven to the slaughterhouse on their own 4 hooves. The cost of beef will go up, but faux meat is already more expensive.

You don't have to turn vegetable protein into faux meat. It's perfectly good as it comes.

Also....

Meat’s large water footprint: why raising livestock and poultry for meat is so resource-intensive

Why revealing the virtual water hidden in meat and explaining its resource-intensity matters; acknowledging the potential problems and limits for ways forward.

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