who here has scoliosis?

[fitzov]

How much does it cost to have your back "adjusted"?

 

[edprush]

Originally posted by: edprush

Originally posted by: Lithium381
I have it, diagnosed in 97 when i was a wee lad(13). Some weeks i can't stand up it's so bad(about once a year, sometimes two),mostly i don't even notice it much at all. My case is labled as "mild" and we haven't done anything to correct it. I will say as others have, that YOGA helps immensly, i do it before i go to bed and then make sure to sleep straight(since your muslces are relaxed, don't want 'em in the wrong positoin when the tense up)....

Do you use a certain yoga video or book? If so, what do you recommend? I see that there are tons of yoga instructional videos and books.

^

 

[krunchykrome]

I think everyone has some unharmful scoliosis.

 

[Lurknomore]

I've had it since rupturing 3 discs in HS.
It's very mild but there's a noticeable curve where the lower spine sinks in more to one side than the other.

It helps to stay active, to not slouch or sit too long in front of the pc :frown:, and to rock back and forth in the bed at night. Too bad there's no girl beside me...

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: fitzov
How much does it cost to have your back "adjusted"?

depends on whether or not your insurance will cover it.

some chiropractors charge anywhere between $35-175 per visit if you don't have insurance.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I think everyone has some unharmful scoliosis.

there's some degree of truth to this... about 75% of the population has some degree of something called "sectional towering," which is like scoliosis, but not... it's ALMOST scoliosis. it leads to it, basically.

about 98% of people develop towering at some point in their lives.

that's why so many people end up with back pain and that's part of why so many people will be hunched over and extremely slow moving around when they're old... improper spinal and joint health... people would rather take pills for things than address and solve issues (boggles my mind, really... even i fall victim to it sometimes).

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

 

[Rock Hydra]

My back is f-ed up.

It's twisted slightly, and curved to the side and forward a little. It blows....hard. Ever since I can remember, sitting up straight has been very uncomfortable after like 5 min.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
My back is f-ed up.

It's twisted slightly, and curved to the side and forward a little. It blows....hard. Ever since I can remember, sitting up straight has been very uncomfortable after like 5 min.

if you haven't done it already, you might wanna look into rolfing. weird name, i know, but it's basically designed to completely retrain your muscles so that your body can straighten out.

how many chiropractors have you seen so far?

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
My back is f-ed up.

It's twisted slightly, and curved to the side and forward a little. It blows....hard. Ever since I can remember, sitting up straight has been very uncomfortable after like 5 min.

if you haven't done it already, you might wanna look into rolfing. weird name, i know, but it's basically designed to completely retrain your muscles so that your body can straighten out.

how many chiropractors have you seen so far?

Probably 3. But my radiologist showed me the X-Rays of my spine. Does 30% or something mean anything to anyone? that's all I remember about it since it's been over 3 years since I've done anything about it.

 

[eits]

yeah, he could be saying that you have a 30% cobb angle, which is a pretty textbook scoliosis.

have any of the chiropractors you've seen helped at all?

in many cases, if you have a 30+ cobb angle, it typically gets worse over time if you don't get it treated. if chiropractic hasn't worked for you whatsoever, then it's probably time to talk to an orthopedic surgeon.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: eits
yeah, he could be saying that you have a 30% cobb angle, which is a pretty textbook scoliosis.

have any of the chiropractors you've seen helped at all?

in many cases, if you have a 30+ cobb angle, it typically gets worse over time if you don't get it treated. if chiropractic hasn't worked for you whatsoever, then it's probably time to talk to an orthopedic surgeon.

...Fvck...I dunno...I haven't done anything about it in a long time, just kept doing whatever. I should probably do something about it soon. I know being hunched over a guitar 5+ hours a day isn't helping, though.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

Uh, the patient can always get the xrays taken at the hospital or imaging center where the radiologist works.

And don't compare a chiropractor to a musculoskeletal radiologist. MSK radiologist actually have some decent training and know what they're doing.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra

Originally posted by: eits
yeah, he could be saying that you have a 30% cobb angle, which is a pretty textbook scoliosis.

have any of the chiropractors you've seen helped at all?

in many cases, if you have a 30+ cobb angle, it typically gets worse over time if you don't get it treated. if chiropractic hasn't worked for you whatsoever, then it's probably time to talk to an orthopedic surgeon.

...Fvck...I dunno...I haven't done anything about it in a long time, just kept doing whatever. I should probably do something about it soon. I know being hunched over a guitar 5+ hours a day isn't helping, though.

what kind of guitar do you have? make sure you get one of the lightest ones you can afford.

try the chiropractor again and gauge the results. chiropractors follow a typical protocol where they re-evaluate a chief complaint after a percent improvement. they will/should also tell you when or if the treatments they're providing have reached their limit (for example, if the chiropractor can't get your cobb angle any less than 15 degrees, he'll tell you that and he might tell you that you would probably want to keep coming in ever month to keep the scoliosis in check so it doesn't go back to the way it was).

 

[Rock Hydra]

I have a Les Paul knockoff, Alder bodied. Pretty heavy compared to any of the others I have (which aren't working right ATM).
Thanks for the info. I should probably hit the chiropractor again. I'll probably go and get my back X-rayed again.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

Uh, the patient can always get the xrays taken at the hospital or imaging center where the radiologist works.

And don't compare a chiropractor to a musculoskeletal radiologist. MSK radiologist actually have some decent training and know what they're doing.

i never said that musculoskeletal radiologists didn't have decent training or know what they were doing. i was just saying that most chiropractors can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist does. chiropractors HAVE to in order to diagnose and adjust... it's part of the job requirement.

also, the patient would have to go out of their way to go to an imaging center or hospital and STILL not have their femur heads in the film... so, it'd be a wasted trip and wasted money.

what i'm saying is that it'd be a lot easier to stay in one location to get the x-ray, final diagnosis, and treatments rather than driving all around town at $2.23/gallon of gas.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I have a Les Paul knockoff, Alder bodied. Pretty heavy compared to any of the others I have (which aren't working right ATM).
Thanks for the info. I should probably hit the chiropractor again. I'll probably go and get my back X-rayed again.

yeah, you'll be x-rayed again. the newer the film, the better the diagnosis and treatment plan.

typically, the way it works is that you come in to the office, you fill out some paperwork (insurance, chief complaint, informed concent), the doctor evaluates you, he orders the films (or he takes them himself), evaluates and measures on the x-ray, and then comes up with a treatment plan (probably involves coming in a couple times per week for at least a couple weeks).

if you need help finding a good one, let me know... there are a lot of bad ones out there.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I have a Les Paul knockoff, Alder bodied. Pretty heavy compared to any of the others I have (which aren't working right ATM).
Thanks for the info. I should probably hit the chiropractor again. I'll probably go and get my back X-rayed again.

yeah, you'll be x-rayed again. the newer the film, the better the diagnosis and treatment plan.

typically, the way it works is that you come in to the office, you fill out some paperwork (insurance, chief complaint, informed concent), the doctor evaluates you, he orders the films (or he takes them himself), evaluates and measures on the x-ray, and then comes up with a treatment plan (probably involves coming in a couple times per week for at least a couple weeks).

if you need help finding a good one, let me know... there are a lot of bad ones out there.

Sure...if you could that would be helpful, though my main concern now is affording gas to make these trips. My budget is pretty tight right now. But, I think I will go to my family doctor and get the X-Rays done at least.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I have a Les Paul knockoff, Alder bodied. Pretty heavy compared to any of the others I have (which aren't working right ATM).
Thanks for the info. I should probably hit the chiropractor again. I'll probably go and get my back X-rayed again.

yeah, you'll be x-rayed again. the newer the film, the better the diagnosis and treatment plan.

typically, the way it works is that you come in to the office, you fill out some paperwork (insurance, chief complaint, informed concent), the doctor evaluates you, he orders the films (or he takes them himself), evaluates and measures on the x-ray, and then comes up with a treatment plan (probably involves coming in a couple times per week for at least a couple weeks).

if you need help finding a good one, let me know... there are a lot of bad ones out there.

Sure...if you could that would be helpful, though my main concern now is affording gas to make these trips. My budget is pretty tight right now. But, I think I will go to my family doctor and get the X-Rays done at least.

make sure that you tell him that you want an a-p full spine and you want the films to include your femur necks... hopefully, he'll grant your wish.

where do you live so i can find you a good chiropractor?

here's an example of the x-ray film i'm talking about... this is actually a chiropractor's x-ray showing before and after of adjusting a scoliotic patient

 

[Rock Hydra]

I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

how old is he? what college did he go to (probably ny chiropractic college, which is a pretty good school)?

rule of thumb, don't go to a palmer graduate. you either want to go to a recent logan college graduate, a recent national college graduate, or a recent ny college graduate (by recent, i mean that they've been practicing within the past 5-15 years). the reason why you want someone recent is because old chiropractors typically tend to fit the negative stereotypes about chiropractors (not all of them). the more recent graduates are a LOT more knowledgeable about healthcare, the medical field, chiropractic treatments, physical therapy, etc... they're a lot more patient-based with their care and are more willing to refer out if they need to.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

how old is he? what college did he go to (probably ny chiropractic college, which is a pretty good school)?

rule of thumb, don't go to a palmer graduate. you either want to go to a recent logan college graduate, a recent national college graduate, or a recent ny college graduate (by recent, i mean that they've been practicing within the past 5-15 years). the reason why you want someone recent is because old chiropractors typically tend to fit the negative stereotypes about chiropractors (not all of them). the more recent graduates are a LOT more knowledgeable about healthcare, the medical field, chiropractic treatments, physical therapy, etc... they're a lot more patient-based with their care and are more willing to refer out if they need to.

He's in his 30s. I don't know where he graduated from, but i know he's been practicing within Catt. for like 8-10 years. He relocated from some other area.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

how old is he? what college did he go to (probably ny chiropractic college, which is a pretty good school)?

rule of thumb, don't go to a palmer graduate. you either want to go to a recent logan college graduate, a recent national college graduate, or a recent ny college graduate (by recent, i mean that they've been practicing within the past 5-15 years). the reason why you want someone recent is because old chiropractors typically tend to fit the negative stereotypes about chiropractors (not all of them). the more recent graduates are a LOT more knowledgeable about healthcare, the medical field, chiropractic treatments, physical therapy, etc... they're a lot more patient-based with their care and are more willing to refer out if they need to.

He's in his 30s. I don't know where he graduated from, but i know he's been practicing within Catt. for like 8-10 years. He relocated from some other area.

cool. what's his name?

 

[Rock Hydra]

Priest is his last name. I can't remember his first.

I guess the office shows up on Google Maps.

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