who here has scoliosis?

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

Uh, the patient can always get the xrays taken at the hospital or imaging center where the radiologist works.

And don't compare a chiropractor to a musculoskeletal radiologist. MSK radiologist actually have some decent training and know what they're doing.

i never said that musculoskeletal radiologists didn't have decent training or know what they were doing. i was just saying that most chiropractors can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist does. chiropractors HAVE to in order to diagnose and adjust... it's part of the job requirement.

also, the patient would have to go out of their way to go to an imaging center or hospital and STILL not have their femur heads in the film... so, it'd be a wasted trip and wasted money.

what i'm saying is that it'd be a lot easier to stay in one location to get the x-ray, final diagnosis, and treatments rather than driving all around town at $2.23/gallon of gas.

are you fvcking kidding me? a chiropractor can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist? are you on crack? or are you in chiropractic school?

If you guys listen to this quack, you're gonna be sorry.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

Uh, the patient can always get the xrays taken at the hospital or imaging center where the radiologist works.

And don't compare a chiropractor to a musculoskeletal radiologist. MSK radiologist actually have some decent training and know what they're doing.

i never said that musculoskeletal radiologists didn't have decent training or know what they were doing. i was just saying that most chiropractors can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist does. chiropractors HAVE to in order to diagnose and adjust... it's part of the job requirement.

also, the patient would have to go out of their way to go to an imaging center or hospital and STILL not have their femur heads in the film... so, it'd be a wasted trip and wasted money.

what i'm saying is that it'd be a lot easier to stay in one location to get the x-ray, final diagnosis, and treatments rather than driving all around town at $2.23/gallon of gas.

are you fvcking kidding me? a chiropractor can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist? are you on crack? or are you in chiropractic school?

If you guys listen to this quack, you're gonna be sorry.

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

 

[edprush]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

how old is he? what college did he go to (probably ny chiropractic college, which is a pretty good school)?

rule of thumb, don't go to a palmer graduate. you either want to go to a recent logan college graduate, a recent national college graduate, or a recent ny college graduate (by recent, i mean that they've been practicing within the past 5-15 years). the reason why you want someone recent is because old chiropractors typically tend to fit the negative stereotypes about chiropractors (not all of them). the more recent graduates are a LOT more knowledgeable about healthcare, the medical field, chiropractic treatments, physical therapy, etc... they're a lot more patient-based with their care and are more willing to refer out if they need to.

I am very surprised/encouraged to see how well eits has been able to maintain his professionalism/courtesy after some of the comments about chiropractic.

Here's my turn:

I do believe chirpractic helps certain situations. I don't know if scoliosis is one of them. I have seen at least 10 different chiropractors in the last 17 years.

I looked at the x-rays you posted. I see the change. But I believe that a great deal of scoliosis has more of a muscular component than skeletal. When I get adjusted by a chiropractor my curvature is reduced but only for a few hours...until my muscles pull the curve convex again.

And what's so bad about Palmer grads? I think the majority of the practitioners that I have seen are Palmer grads. I'm not defending Palmer, I just want to know what Logan does better.

How do I find a Logan trained chiropractor in my area?

What is your opinion of NUCCA?

Thanks.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes
I went to a chiropractor after a car accident, and they did full x-rays. He said I had a T5 subluxation, and I believe he described a minor scoliosis. A few years later I went to my primary doctor for problems with the T5 (it feels like it "pops" in/out of place, and sometimes it hurts like hell), and he found neither a scoliosis and didn't seem concerned about the T5.

So, I guess I don't have scoliosis.

i'd get the spine stuff checked out by a chiropractor rather than a gp (general practitioner)... it's kinda like going to get antibiotics from a chiropractor. you go to whichever doctor knows more about the issue and has had more experience with it.

How about just having your family doc order some xrays and have your musculoskeletal radiologist read it.

because most family docs don't have x-ray machines in their clinics, like chiropractors do. also, family docs tend not to include the femur heads whenever they take a full spine x-ray, which has clinical significance when talking about scoliosis.

it would be a lot of unnecessary steps to have a family doc order a full spine series (ap and lateral) only for the patient to take the films to a musculoskeletal radiologist (which, in essence, is one of the hats a chiropractor wears)... especially when the ms radiologist won't be able to be as accurate in a diagnosis without seeing the femur heads. hip crests can be deceiving.

Uh, the patient can always get the xrays taken at the hospital or imaging center where the radiologist works.

And don't compare a chiropractor to a musculoskeletal radiologist. MSK radiologist actually have some decent training and know what they're doing.

i never said that musculoskeletal radiologists didn't have decent training or know what they were doing. i was just saying that most chiropractors can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist does. chiropractors HAVE to in order to diagnose and adjust... it's part of the job requirement.

also, the patient would have to go out of their way to go to an imaging center or hospital and STILL not have their femur heads in the film... so, it'd be a wasted trip and wasted money.

what i'm saying is that it'd be a lot easier to stay in one location to get the x-ray, final diagnosis, and treatments rather than driving all around town at $2.23/gallon of gas.

are you fvcking kidding me? a chiropractor can do the same thing a musculoskeletal radiologist? are you on crack? or are you in chiropractic school?

If you guys listen to this quack, you're gonna be sorry.

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

because chiropractors are quacks.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

because chiropractors are quacks.

what a very mature and well-explained response by someone not ignorant about the profession whatsoever :roll:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: edprush

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I live in Lockport, NY. My family doctor is in Gowanda, NY. The chiropractor I visited is in Cattaraugus, NY.

how old is he? what college did he go to (probably ny chiropractic college, which is a pretty good school)?

rule of thumb, don't go to a palmer graduate. you either want to go to a recent logan college graduate, a recent national college graduate, or a recent ny college graduate (by recent, i mean that they've been practicing within the past 5-15 years). the reason why you want someone recent is because old chiropractors typically tend to fit the negative stereotypes about chiropractors (not all of them). the more recent graduates are a LOT more knowledgeable about healthcare, the medical field, chiropractic treatments, physical therapy, etc... they're a lot more patient-based with their care and are more willing to refer out if they need to.

I am very surprised/encouraged to see how well eits has been able to maintain his professionalism/courtesy after some of the comments about chiropractic.

Here's my turn:

I do believe chirpractic helps certain situations. I don't know if scoliosis is one of them. I have seen at least 10 different chiropractors in the last 17 years.

I looked at the x-rays you posted. I see the change. But I believe that a great deal of scoliosis has more of a muscular component than skeletal. When I get adjusted by a chiropractor my curvature is reduced but only for a few hours...until my muscles pull the curve convex again.

And what's so bad about Palmer grads? I think the majority of the practitioners that I have seen are Palmer grads. I'm not defending Palmer, I just want to know what Logan does better.

How do I find a Logan trained chiropractor in my area?

What is your opinion of NUCCA?

Thanks.

that was part of why i suggested he look into rolfing. it helps reform musculature so that people don't go right back into their scoliosis.

you are right that muscle is a major part of scoliosis, but it's also true that heredity also plays a big roll, skeletally.

not everyone will get a straight spine from getting chiropractic adjustments. it really depends on the patient's body and the techniques used by the doctors.

the reason why i trust logan docs more than palmer docs is because logan students get the highest scores on the national board exams, they are taught a bunch of different techniques, a lower percentage of logan grads end up with malpractice suits, and logan grads have a higher practice success rate than other schools.

the reason i chose logan over national or ny chiropractic is because it's the best chiropractic school out there. if i want to be successful in treating people effectively, i'd want to go to the best school out there. i've got professors who've written textbooks that are used in chiropractic schools and med schools around the country, logan's the only chiropractic school in the country that has this new state of the art physical therapy/sports medicine machine (i don't really know what it is, really, because i'm not in the sports medicine master's program yet).

basically, in a nutshell, logan's pretty much the john's hopkins of chiropractic schools. it tends to turn out the best ones out there.

i can't really comment on the nucca because i don't know much about it. all i know is that, from what i understand, they feel everything can be fixed by adjusting the c-spine. i don't really agree with the top-down premise (bj palmer's doctrine), nor do i believe completely in the bottom-up premise (hugh logan's doctrine). i think it's both together.

while i'm on my platform, i might as well say that it really sucks that there isn't enough funding out there for more c1 adjustment research as it pertains to vagal stimulation of the cardia and viscera. there needs to be more of a comradery between medical and chiropractic forms of healthcare, in my opinion (even though many of my fellow classmates would staunchly disagree).

chiropractic is based on patient wellness and optimal healthcare. if we aren't ready to come together in research for better understanding how to treat patients, then what the hell are we trying to do? just make money? piss on that if you can't help people. if the only reason why some people went to medical school or chiropractic school was because they wanted to make good money, they really are in the wrong profession entirely and only work to turn people away from one field or the other altogether.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

 

[edprush]

Originally posted by: edprush
How do I find a Logan trained chiropractor in my area?



Thanks.

bump

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

because chiropractors are quacks.

what a very mature and well-explained response by someone not ignorant about the profession whatsoever :roll:

well of course someone working for a quack usually doesn't see that the person is a quack or else they wouldn't stay on the job.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

He's now saying that chiropractic school teaches same material as medical schools. Geez it just gets better and better. The claims are the same bullsh*t other chiropractors make.

Trust me, medical schools don't teach that BS coming from chiropractic schools.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

Ding ding ding. Everybody I know who goes to Quackoprators get told they have to keep going more and more to keep from "seizing up", "going cripple" or "to release bad mojo". I've never known anybody to be fixed of anything by going to one. They get paid to keep you going back so why would they want to fix you?

I've know two people with scoliosis but both were 40 degree + and had to go under the knife.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

He's now saying that chiropractic school teaches same material as medical schools. Geez it just gets better and better. The claims are the same bullsh*t other chiropractors make.

Trust me, medical schools don't teach that BS coming from chiropractic schools.

you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

Ding ding ding. Everybody I know who goes to Quackoprators get told they have to keep going more and more to keep from "seizing up", "going cripple" or "to release bad mojo". I've never known anybody to be fixed of anything by going to one. They get paid to keep you going back so why would they want to fix you?

I've know two people with scoliosis but both were 40 degree + and had to go under the knife.

if they got told they HAVE to keep coming, they're being told wrong.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Well lets look at the study done by Foundation for Chiropractic Education and Research and was done by Life Chiropractic College (no bias there) They did full spine adjustments on kids 3 times a week for a whole year (add the $$ of that up) Results? lowered the angle by 1.4 degrees on average. Control group? nope. Someone should teach them about the scientific method.

http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/15/03/21.html

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
Well lets look at the study done by Foundation for Chiropractic Education and Research and was done by Life Chiropractic College (no bias there) They did full spine adjustments on kids 3 times a week for a whole year (add the $$ of that up) Results? lowered the angle by 1.4 degrees on average. Control group? nope. Someone should teach them about the scientific method.

http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/15/03/21.html

as far as i know, life cc isn't around anymore (part of why my school got so huge).

also, you might not be privvy to the knowledge that there are different techniques in chiropractic. i don't know what technique was used in the study you just showed.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

ok, please, can you go learn a little more about chiropractic before trolling? you're really starting to get annoying.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

ok, please, can you go learn a little more about chiropractic before trolling? you're really starting to get annoying.

are you denying that chiropractic manipulations can cause vertebral dissections?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

ok, please, can you go learn a little more about chiropractic before trolling? you're really starting to get annoying.

are you denying that chiropractic manipulations can cause vertebral dissections?

his silence can be taken as a "no" for the answer to that question.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

ok, please, can you go learn a little more about chiropractic before trolling? you're really starting to get annoying.

are you denying that chiropractic manipulations can cause vertebral dissections?

hell no i don't. of course it can. but it typically doesn't happen unless you don't know what you're doing. vertebral artery dissections typically happen to patients with plaquing, family history of stroke, and it only happens on supine cervical adjustments. believe it or not, you can adjust the neck side posture, prone, with no gross movements, and by adjusting the major posterior myofascial plane.

the chance of it happening is 1:50,000. that's nothing compared to the percentage of iatrogenic diseases and accidental medical deaths that happen every year... not to mention the number of doctors who leave sponges or tools in their patients when they sew up. you don't see me trying to bash the medical doctors for that, though, do you?

you really need to take the blinders off and actually READ some of my posts. you also really need to learn about a subject before you go spouting off nonsense. only idiots bash things they don't know enough about.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: eits

i'm confused as to why you think a chiropractor can't make the same diagnosis as a musculoskeletal radiologist.

Obviously, you don't know much about the medical profession. I think you should stay in chiropractic school and let them brainwash you some more.

?? i went to med school for a year before i transfered out and went to chiropractic school. both med school and chiropractic schools teach the exact same material, except chiropractic school has a different paradigm when it comes to health.

i think it's obvious that you don't know much about the chiropractic profession and to cover it up, you go around ignorantly saying that chiropractors are quacks. you might as well go around saying all german cars are crap and everyone should buy american.

what do you call someone who flunks out of med school?
a chiropractor.

a chiropractor can be licensed without even go to an accredited school.

not true.

also, i didn't flunk out. i had a 3.1 gpa. i didn't like the idea of being a pill pusher.

instead, you'd rather be a quack who would give people vertebral artery dissections and strokes from your chiropractic manipulations.

ok, please, can you go learn a little more about chiropractic before trolling? you're really starting to get annoying.

are you denying that chiropractic manipulations can cause vertebral dissections?

his silence can be taken as a "no" for the answer to that question.

my silence can be taken as me watching 'grey's anatomy' and studying for my cardiorespiratory diagnosis exam.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: eits
hell no i don't. of course it can. but it typically doesn't happen unless you don't know what you're doing. vertebral artery dissections typically happen to patients with plaquing, family history of stroke, and it only happens on supine cervical adjustments. believe it or not, you can adjust the neck side posture, prone, with no gross movements, and by adjusting the major posterior myofascial plane.

the chance of it happening is 1:50,000. that's nothing compared to the percentage of iatrogenic diseases and accidental medical deaths that happen every year... not to mention the number of doctors who leave sponges or tools in their patients when they sew up. you don't see me trying to bash the medical doctors for that, though, do you?

you really need to take the blinders off and actually READ some of my posts. you also really need to learn about a subject before you go spouting off nonsense. only idiots bash things they don't know enough about.

benefits of chiropractic: zip, zero, nada
risks of being a vegetable: very real
chiropractors laughing their way to the bank: priceless