Who here isn't into MMA?

[TecHNooB]

I only tune in when fedor, lesnar, or kimbo are fighting.

 

[Jeff7]

I guess the only way you can be "into" this sort of thing is if you enjoy watching people beat up each other in the first place.

In that sense, I prefer Three-Stooges-style fighting.

 

[QueBert]

If you think boxing requires more skill and strategy than MMA... yeah I'm not even going to respond to that.

Boxing does require more skill, in MMA a Wrestler can easily beat a striker who has no TDD even if they're not that great of a wrestler. A boxer is fighting another dude where both can only use boxing. The best "boxer" in MMA would get killed by a sub par professional boxer in a pure boxing match. I've seen almost every UFC PPV, and a majority of Pride's. I love MMA, but I can still recognize that boxing does require more skill, because you have to be as close to perfect as you can at that one aspect. In MMA you can be only so-so at multiple martial arts disciplines and still clean house. Brock won the UFC HW belt 3 fights into his career. You take a boxer who's 3 fights into his career and put him in against Mayweather and there's zero chance Mayweather looses.

With that said, a good boxing match is every bit as exacting as a good MMA bout. On the flip when either are boring, they're hard to watch.

 

[Woosta]

he best "boxer" in MMA would get killed by a sub par professional boxer in a pure boxing match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDiPghk6Y8E

Vitor took up boxing and won that fight. Does his opponent count as a "sub par" boxer?

Anderson Silva ( while he's FAR from my favorite fighter and HAS LOST a boxing match ) has won a boxing match as well.

Marcus Davis (17-1-2)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19438

Chris Lytle (13-1-1)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=121346

Alessio Sakara (6-1-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=297539

Jens Pulver (4-0-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=256828


Yosuke Nishijima (24-2-1)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=22476


Yves Edwards (2-0-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=249668

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira is also part of the Cuban olympic boxing team.

This is Ray Mercer taking on Remy Bonjansky in a kickboxing match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXkcYul1LRo

And no, Tim Sylvia I don't even consider to be an elite caliber fighter before you mention him getting KTFO'd

Can't wait to see how James Toney does against Randy Couture

 

[JulesMaximus]

MMA could disappear tomorrow and I still wouldn't give a shit.

 

[Woosta]

a Wrestler can easily beat a striker who has no TDD even if they're not that great of a wrestler.

MMA is relatively new, but even nowadays and into the future more mma fighters will be more well-rounded meaning you will have to train all aspects even more to succeed.

Any champion nowadays is well rounded.

Ando has TDD, GSP has TDD, BJ has TDD, Brock has TDD, Fedor has TDD, Jose Aldo has TDD.

All of the above train wrestling, jiu jitsu/sambo/submissions, striking composed of boxing and kickboxing and/or muay thai as well as combining all those aspects.

 

[QueBert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDiPghk6Y8E

Vitor took up boxing and won that fight. Does his opponent count as a "sub par" boxer?

Anderson Silva ( while he's FAR from my favorite fighter and HAS LOST a boxing match ) has won a boxing match as well.

Marcus Davis (17-1-2)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19438

Chris Lytle (13-1-1)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=121346

Alessio Sakara (6-1-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=297539

Jens Pulver (4-0-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=256828


Yosuke Nishijima (24-2-1)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=22476


Yves Edwards (2-0-0)
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=249668

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira is also part of the Cuban olympic boxing team.

This is Ray Mercer taking on Remy Bonjansky in a kickboxing match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXkcYul1LRo

And no, Tim Sylvia I don't even consider to be an elite caliber fighter before you mention him getting KTFO'd

Can't wait to see how James Toney does against Randy Couture

Those "boxers" the MMA guys beats aren't pro level boxers. Anderson won a few amature boxing matches where he didn't look good at all. A sub par professional boxer >>>>> a good amature. If the amature was good they'd be professional. Mercer lost a kick boxing match to a top level K1, I wouldn't expect any boxer on the planet to stand a chance against Remy, or even a lower level K1 dude. Vitor probably has the best hands in MMA, but he would get picked apart by any top 50 boxer in a boxing match within 3 rounds. A top 20 would finish him within 3 minutes. I hope when Silva retires from UFC he stays a man of his word and fights Roy Jones. Even way past his prime Jones will make Silvia look real bad. Any boxing dude in MMA will lose, Toney even in his prime would only have a slight punchers chance, he could KO any MMA dude foolish enough to stand with him to try and prove MMA strikers are worthy. But any MMA dude in a pro boxing match will lose just the same. If MMA fighters were superior fighters they should be able to enter a boxing match and walk all over the boxer. That will never happen.

Look at those links you posted, 1/3 of the fighters have 4 or less fights, 1/3 have 4+ times the loses they do wins, and the 1/3 who have more W's then L's haven't beaten anyone worth mentioning. One had 256 LOSES, how's that even possible?? Going 17-1 in boxing isn't a feat when your opponents w/l ratio is like 1:3. Sakaras last "win" was over a guy who's 4-21-4. I'm sorry but that's not a real win. 21 loses with 4 wins they should ban the dude from fighting.


Randy isn't one of those stupid MMA fighters who believes he could win a fight against a boxer standing, he'll be able to grind out Toney with his clinch and wrestling.

 

[Woosta]

Even way past his prime Jones will make Silvia look real bad. Any boxing dude in MMA will lose,

I can agree with this, but your definition of a subpar pro boxer is very vague, considering one can argue the boxers those MMA fighters beat are "subpar", too subjective.

If MMA fighters were superior fighters they should be able to enter a boxing match and walk all over the boxer. That will never happen.

In the whole scheme of things, if you paired up an MMA fighter vs a boxer the MMA fighter would most likely win 8/9 times out of 10, all he would have to do is low kick or takedown the boxer and it's over. Since they train more aspects they have more weapons to win with, they are trained for more and different types of scenarios; because of this one can argue they simply are superior fighters.

 

[BoomerD]

<sigh> Silly fanbois...

 

[QueBert]

I can agree with this, but your definition of a subpar pro boxer is very vague, considering one can argue the boxers those MMA fighters beat are "subpar", too subjective.



In the whole scheme of things, if you paired up an MMA fighter vs a boxer the MMA fighter would most likely win 8/9 times out of 10, all he would have to do is low kick or takedown the boxer and it's over. Since they train more aspects they have more weapons to win with, they are trained for more and different types of scenarios; because of this one can argue they simply are superior fighters.

they are better at MMA I wouldn't argue that, but if they were a superior fighter they should be able to win in a boxing match. It's like Mac Vs Windows, Windows is superior if you game, Mac's superior if you make music. The MMA guy wins 9/10 in an MMA match against a boxer, the boxer wins 10/10 in a boxing match. A boxer is superior at BOXING, an MMA dude is going to be better at BJJ/Wrestling/MT or whatever discipline they train in. Here's the thing a boxer has a punchers chance in an MMA fight, as Mercer showed against Sylvia. That would be the 1/10 chance. Timmy was still top 10 when that fight happened. And he was former UFC HW champ, so it's safe to say he was still a world class fighter. Now put a world class MMA dude against a world class boxer in a boxing match and the MMA fighter doesn't even have that 1/10 chance. Mercer proved a lot with that win IMHO.

 

[pontifex]

I'm into martial arts movies, but i don't really have any interest in watching a competition.

 

[SP33Demon]

Too unrealistic, if you're going to fight it should be to kill. Knives, guns, eye gouging, throat ripping, none of this rules and fighting to hurt just a little bit.

Wake me up once we're back to real gladiatorial combat instead of play-fighting.

Until then I'll watch the even more fake but at least more entertaining and better choreographed mock fighting in the movies.

(I'm mostly serious, though not really bloodthirsty enough to yearn for the real arena.)

This is pretty much it. And if you're going to have rules, I think boxing is still tougher than MMA because of the 12 rounds vs 3.

 

[Woosta]

This is pretty much it. And if you're going to have rules, I think boxing is still tougher than MMA because of the 12 rounds vs 3.

You cannot compare number of rounds to number of rounds, the variables are completely different in an MMA fight than in a boxing fight.

Most boxing matches are boring as shit because all you do is punch and clinch for an entire 12 rounds ( snoozefest ) while you are more inclined for an actual finish in an MMA 'bout because the fight can end in literally hundreds of ways.

I think boxing is still tougher than MMA because of the 12 rounds vs 3

Boxing is easier because you don't have to worry about:

from elbows

Can you honestly tell me if you were to pick between boxing and MMA, you'd pick MMA because it's less tougher? I would probably do boxing because all I wouldn't have to worry about all this shit above.

If you were competing in MMA and someone knocked you down, they would get on you like a pirahna whereas you get a count in boxing. How is MMA not more challenging and tougher than boxing?

 

[CallMeJoe]

You cannot compare number of rounds to number of rounds, the variables are completely different in an MMA fight than in a boxing fight.
Most boxing matches are boring as shit because all you do is punch and clinch for an entire 12 rounds ( snoozefest ) while you are more inclined for an actual finish in an MMA 'bout because the fight can end in literally hundreds of ways.

Yet somehow, still, most of ATOT still doesn't give a damn...

 

[QueBert]

You cannot compare number of rounds to number of rounds, the variables are completely different in an MMA fight than in a boxing fight.

Most boxing matches are boring as shit because all you do is punch and clinch for an entire 12 rounds ( snoozefest ) while you are more inclined for an actual finish in an MMA 'bout because the fight can end in literally hundreds of ways.


Can you honestly tell me if you were to pick between boxing and MMA, you'd pick MMA because it's less tougher? I would probably do boxing because all I wouldn't have to worry about all this shit above.

If you were competing in MMA and someone knocked you down, they would get on you like a pirahna whereas you get a count in boxing. How is MMA not more challenging and tougher than boxing?

MMA fighters are inclined to finish? that's nonsense, how many fights at UFC 114 didn't go to a decision? 7 of the fights went to decision, and one of the KO's was the most ass lucky thing ever. No way in hell that should have happened. MMA has just as many boring fights as boxing. Very few MMA fighters go into a fight to end it, they go in to get a win.

Boxing is tougher because the fighters get a chance to semi recover, think about it, in MMA a dude gets smashed with an overhand right, falls down and his opponent is on top of him and the fight's stopped after a few light blows. A boxer smashes another with an overhand right, his opponent gets 10 seconds to get to their feet. Boxers take far more punishment, because a fighter might semi recover 6 times in a fight and get smashed far more than an MMA dude who gets smashed once and gets 2 hammer fists and it's stopped. Look at what happened to Ali getting punched in the head so many times. Doubtful any MMA fighters will ever end up punch drunk like that. Plus in boxing they punch 2 places only, the head or the body. Plenty of MMA matches end with no damage to either fighter due to one of them lay n praying their way to a win, or a lot of clinching against the cage. Boxers get punched in the face hundreds of times a fight, MMA fighters never that much. And as everyone knows boxers are far superior strikers, so getting punched 50 times in the head by Roy Jones >>>>> any MMA strikes. Boxing is far more technical because you can only win 1 way, you have to be a master at boxing to win. There are no take downs, no grappling, you can't win by laying on a dude for 3 rounds and if you clinch it's broken up in seconds. Many MMA fights are nothing but 15 minutes of clinching. Now I love MMA but boxing is on a whole other level. This is why world wide it's infinitely more popular than MMA.

 

[Synomenon]

Another one here that isn't into it. Just can't get over the part where there's two sweaty, shirtless guys, sometimes in short shorts, arms and legs wrapped around each other, rolling around on the ground, sometimes grunting.

Not that there's anything wrong with that or remotely sexual about it.

 

[Number1]

Another one here that isn't into it. Just can't get over the part where there's two sweaty, shirtless guys, sometimes in short shorts, arms and legs wrapped around each other, rolling around on the ground, sometimes grunting.

Not that there's anything wrong with that or remotely sexual about it.

The way you describe the fights tells me your not unaffected by the display. Are you planing on coming out soon. You'll be able to watch MMA and not feel bad about your arousal.

 

[alkemyst]

my mommy and daddy paid for my BB..I am 9 now!

 

[D1gger]

I've never been interested in sports that are based on fighting. I guess I just don't get the point.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Not remotely interested at all.

This. I've got other shit to do.

 

[BabaBooey]

 

[Acanthus]

I couldn't possibly care less.

 

[boomhower]

I'm not, couldn't care less.

 

[zylander]

Not even remotely interested. I have a couple friends who are into it but I just dont care. Why has everyone gotten so into MMA/UFC lately? Five years ago no one cared, now it seems like everywhere I look someone is wearing tapout gear and so many people I talk to are super into it.

Oh yea, this was really awesome....got the guy on the ground and then just kicks him in the head.

 

[edro]

Why do trashy people think wearing Tapout gear makes them look cool or tough?