Who here still uses CRT monitors?

[Anubis]

lol thats like 11000 more then they used to cost in the US when they were new

 

[KeypoX]

It's foolish to use CRTs in this day and age. There are no advantages at all. None. LCDs are superior in every conceivable way. Everyone knows this.

chicken dinner

 

[Zebo]

And this blur gives you migraine headaches or something? Also, that "blur" you speak of was with first generation LCD's. Today anything with 8ms response or better is not going to have this blur that drives you crazy.

I would think you'd want to upgrade due to the power savings and space savings alone.

Not true. Fastest LCDs have blur. I have a 5ms NEC 20wgmx2, it has it. I have a NEC 2490wuxi it has it. I've bought dozens and returned dozens they all have it. TNs VA's IPS all types all the best rated all have it. Posters who can see in this thread recognize it. Testing at Toms recognize it.

I don't know abut crazy or headaches but i don't like it.

Anyway my point was LCD is not superior in "everyway" this is mathematically verifiable whether you notice or not is up to you. Be lucky you don't. Saves a lot of money that way.

Similarly I could not use a shadow mask CRT but could only use high end AGs back in the day - sucks to be picky and expensive.

 

[Zebo]

A. Response times on LCDs are still shit. Video games on LCDs make my eyes bleed.

B. Backlit displays are very fucking annoying.

C. Interpolated resolutions look so non-amazing.

D. Colors on LCDs still have no intensity, and blacks are still gray.

Almost everyone knows this.

btw I'm talking about IPS LCDs, don't even get me started about how bad the cheap ones most people use are.

What's the problem LOL

 

[Vic Vega]

The last one I had was a 19" KDS back in 2004. It got zapped during a thunder storm and I replaced it with an LCD. I've been using LCDs since then.

 

[sactoking]

Using my 19" CRT that still has perfect color and whatnot = free
Buying a new LCD monitor that I have to get used to = $150

The CRT beats the LCD in every way imaginable.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

I like CRTs, and I'd like to continue using them, but the last used one I picked up (a 22" one) was suffering from reduced image quality due to wear. Also took up much more room than my 24" LCD and had less screen space.

I wanted an HDTV CRT, but its always geometry problems galore with them.

What I hate about LCDs is the poorer black levels and contrast ratio, uneven backlight (flashlighting, edge bleeding), and poor viewing angles. I can live with some small blurring. I've been doing some research and even high end LCD TVs have backlight problems. IPS panels have these problem too. And then, apparently, lots of LCD TVs have significant input lag, bleh.

 

[theflyingpig]

I'm amazed at the amount of fools defending pathetic CRTs. What you perceive as 'motion blur' and non 'vibrant' colors is in fact the 'nerd effect'. The Nerd Effect, you see, is brought on by the reading of technical specifications, and, in some weak attempt to make oneself feel superior, the mind begins to create flaws where there are none based on these specifications. This is evident in the many disciplines of technology, but the two most common are monitors and cameras. Where a normal, well adjusted human would see perfection, a person under the influence of the Nerd Effect sees only his own foolishness. That is your failure. Everyone knows this.

 

[Vic Vega]

I'm amazed at the amount of fools defending pathetic CRTs. What you perceive as 'motion blur' and non 'vibrant' colors is in fact the 'nerd effect'. The Nerd Effect, you see, is brought on by the reading of technical specifications, and, in some weak attempt to make oneself feel superior, the mind begins to create flaws where there are none based on these specifications. This is evident in the many disciplines of technology, but the two most common are monitors and cameras. Where a normal, well adjusted human would see perfection, a person under the influence of the Nerd Effect sees only his own foolishness. That is your failure. Everyone knows this.

Your eyes are bad. Everyone knows this.

 

[Anubis]

Your eyes are bad. Everyone knows this.

hes also a dumb blind sheep for apple and LCDs

 

[theflyingpig]

Your eyes are bad. Everyone knows this.

My eyes are perfect, and my mind is clear. Uncloud your mind and be free of your foolishness.

 

[theflyingpig]

hes also a dumb blind sheep for apple and LCDs

you are the sheep for believing the ramblings of fools. do the research yourself, and you'll see. everyone knows this.

 

[yhelothar]

I preferred my 21" Sony CPD-G520K Sony FD Trinitron monitor to LCD's for a while. That was when I had a Dell 2001FP, an early IPS screen. The contrast and vibrancy of colors were clearly better on the CRT.
But when I stepped up to my current 24" AU Optitronics S-PVA panel with much deeper black levels and higher contrast ratio, there's no comparison at all. The SPVA panel is much more vibrant, crisper, and beautiful than any CRT, even the 23" widescreen Sony FW900.

Furthermore, aperture grill screens typically degrade in sharpness considerably after 3 yrs of use.
On the flipside, CRTs don't get image persistence while all my LCDs always were plagued with image persistence. CRTs may have burn in, but you'd have to be really notorious with leaving a static image on to get it and I've never gotten it through years of normal use.

 

[Vic Vega]

My eyes are perfect, and my mind is clear. Uncloud your mind and be free of your foolishness.

Your ego is too big for this thread. Everyone knows this.

 

[shortylickens]

DAMN PIG!

Newb just owned your punk ass.

Everyone knows this. It cannot be denied.

 

[Anubis]

you are the sheep for believing the ramblings of fools. do the research yourself, and you'll see. everyone knows this.

the research shows that CTR > LCD, Plasma > LCD for TVs and non apple products > apple

 

[Zebo]

the research shows that CTR > LCD, Plasma > LCD for TVs and non apple products > apple

yup Pioneer Elite Plasma TV is still the king which is why is costs $5000. Black blacks, superior color, and no blur. (although blur is less noticeable on LCD at distance I still notice when playing RTSs tho)

Problem is people rather pay $1000 for inferior product. Same reason people shop at Walmart. Same reason people buy TNs in pic above. Cheap and indiscriminating tastes. So these products are disappearing as well.

I've always been a display snob. Image should be as close to RL as possible and almost any price is worth paying. (a minority not worth marketing to as such good stuff gets taken away... Laser disks for DVDs, High end CRTs for LCDs, SEDs for OLEDs & plasma for LCD) Cost not superior performance is impetus for these transitions.

Apple uses IPS technology in their LCDs, best and most expensive LCD technology. But it's still an LCD with blur and poor black, really it's purple when light are out.

Funny thing is Apple and NEC are the only ones keeping expensive IPS alive as well. They have standards and have not gone cheap yet. In 5 years I doubt you'll see an IPS. Maybe Jobs will stick with it since Apple customers pay pretty much anything but NEC is feeling the heat selling $1000 24"s when Acer is selling $250 ones.

 

[DominionSeraph]

21" SyncMaster 1100p+
Can't beat the price. It was free.

I don't play competitive FPS anymore so LCD would be just fine for my use. But I see no point in spending $350 for nothing but a sidegrade to a 120Hz LCD.

 

[daw123]

I gave my old 19" CRT to my mum.

 

[Matthiasa]

Anything that has movement has blur... it's simply how our eyes work.

 

[Zebo]

I preferred my 21" Sony CPD-G520K Sony FD Trinitron monitor to LCD's for a while. That was when I had a Dell 2001FP, an early IPS screen. The contrast and vibrancy of colors were clearly better on the CRT.
But when I stepped up to my current 24" AU Optitronics S-PVA panel with much deeper black levels and higher contrast ratio, there's no comparison at all. The SPVA panel is much more vibrant, crisper, and beautiful than any CRT, even the 23" widescreen Sony FW900.

Furthermore, aperture grill screens typically degrade in sharpness considerably after 3 yrs of use.
On the flipside, CRTs don't get image persistence while all my LCDs always were plagued with image persistence. CRTs may have burn in, but you'd have to be really notorious with leaving a static image on to get it and I've never gotten it through years of normal use.

Pretty balanced appraisal. VAs produce very nice color on colorimeter like my Lacie eye pro but still have color-shift in RL and blur. VAs are the slowest tech dispute what they claim. Blacks are very good though. It's always a compromise with LCDs or CRTs.

 

[Zebo]

Anything that has movement has blur... it's simply how our eyes work.

No. You need to clone a trinitron and LCD side by side. Run some tests. Like window dragging, FPS input to see lag - day and night difference.

Likewise, static text will look like shit on CRT, relative.

 

[Matthiasa]

I've used trinitron monitors though a lot, the CRT at my dads house is one, and there is still motion blur. And yes it's even been side by side when my computer was next to the CRT during the summer.
But yeah I know, even slowly moving the window on my lcd makes it nearly unreadable.
However in games never I don't really notice the difference, probably because of how fast stuff is moving to begin with.

 

[alkemyst]

I use a 21" Trinitron at work still.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

My Viewsonic A90 lasted me ten years, and I'd still be using it if it didn't suddenly die. I hated my LCD initially (ASUS 22" something-or-other) but I've become used to it. The contrast is still total shit though; if I click on any standard link (say, within Wikipedia) the purple "clicked" color is virtually indistinguishable from the black font. I was going to buy another CRT, but alas, NewEgg had, like, a single refurb avaliable, and I don't like buying expensive things used, so the LCD it was.