Who is Satan?!

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Satan is Santa's evil twin.

lmao! never thought of it that way

It all makes perfect sense!

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Satan is Santa's evil twin.

Agreed!!

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah, Lucifer was the most beautiful and most powerful of the angels. He became jealous of God's powers and felt himself equal to God. So he rounded up a posse and decided to try to oust G-money. The problem was, God was all powerful and that kind of put a crimp in his plans. So as a result Lucifer got his ass banished to hell. I think the story goes, God gave him power to influence people in earth but in the ended its prophecized lucifer is gonna get his comeupance when Michael goes biblical on his ass with a flaming sword. I think thats how it goes

Yes, Satan is supposed to return to Earth before "the end." And he is supposed to rule the planet for a while, often called the years of Trials and Tribulations. Even if you are not a believer, I recommend reading the book of Revelation (hint: it's in the Bible).

I also recommend reading a book called "Meet the Witnesses," written by John Mathias Haffert. It is a scientific study about the story of Fatima, which is IMO, the best story ever pertaining to a miraculous event. There are so many untruths regarding this story around the net. You can find a copy, just run a search, I think I paid $8 for it.

 

[Atomicus]

Actually.... the story goes more like the movie Devil's Advocate and the theme of vanity.
Lucifer was the archangel to God and was the most beautiful. However, he realized he was doing the bulk of God's work and was, afterall, very beautiful and thought that man should worship him instead of God. Then he oppposed God and was CAST/THROWN into the Lake of Fire.

For reference, read your Revelations or consult a minister near you. Don't go to priests; they charge a grope per visit

 

[JasonXtreme]

Originally posted by: Psycho16
http://www.reformed.com/pub/hell.htm

woah!

Interesting site

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah, Lucifer was the most beautiful and most powerful of the angels. He became jealous of God's powers and felt himself equal to God. So he rounded up a posse and decided to try to oust G-money. The problem was, God was all powerful and that kind of put a crimp in his plans. So as a result Lucifer got his ass banished to hell. I think the story goes, God gave him power to influence people in earth but in the ended its prophecized lucifer is gonna get his comeupance when Michael goes biblical on his ass with a flaming sword. I think thats how it goes

Can I quote that for bible class next week?

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Atomicus
Don't go to priests; they charge a grope per visit

DIEEE!!!

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Satan is Santa's evil twin.

no satan is santa why?

1) notice the same letters in both names
2) they both like red
3) they both are all about darkness, seclusion and the night
4) satan bribes youto do his bidding by giving you material things. Santa has his naughty and nice list and parents use him (and his material gifts) to bribe you to to their (santa's) bidding, just like satan.

 

[Coquito]

:music:...fell in to a burning ring of fire
went down, down, down
and the flames went higher
and it burns, burns, burns
the ring of fire:music:

-Cash

 

[asm0deus]

There's a book called The Urantia Book (aka the story of everything) that lists Satan as the assistant of Lucifer and presumes to describe the lucifer manifesto essentially as a decree of war against and a denial of the existence of the more potent celestial powers (the Creator Sons and their Father). These celestial powers were his creators and it was very much the attempt of a perfect creature to overrule its perfect creators. He was 1 in 100,000 though and could have been squashed immediately, but the mercy of perfect creators is nigh infinite and they offered him forgiveness throughout which he rejected. He did convince hundreds of thousands to follow him through the rebellion but most of them changed their minds before and after his apprehension. Now they are virtually powerless and are awaiting final judgement. Our system has been cut off from the universe communication and spirit circuits because of this rebellion. Hahaha so how does it benefit you to believe this? It doesn't it's just one opinion amongst many. I guess the difference is that I have room in my universe for spiritual circuitry and rebelling perfections.

</insanity>

 

[JulesMaximus]

I think he posts here under the name of Alkemyst.

 

[gigapet]

didnt satan create money so he could act as god over all humans without having the "infinite power" of god?

 

[Semidevil]

so excatly how powerful is satan when he was just lucifer? what can he do that other angels can't? actually, what kind of powers did the angels have anyway?

 

[OutHouse]

Satan are the evil Aliens

God are the good Aliens


There was a galatic war and the good aliens defeted the evil aliens and banished them from our galaxy.

 

[skace]

I thought there was a fundamental disagreement between God and Lucifer that caused the rebellion? I didn't remember it being so vain as to overtake God for power. I thought it was something like Lucifer wanted what Humans had or something.

But I don't even know why I have this impression, probably from a movie, since I've seen a rediculous number of movies that cameo'd lucifer...

 

[Alatariel]

Originally posted by: Citrix
Satan are the evil Aliens

God are the good Aliens


There was a galatic war and the good aliens defeted the evil aliens and banished them from our galaxy.

There's actually some merit to this thinking. An entire school of thought says that the entire Biblical account is merely the relating of alien experiences with man from the point of view of non-technologically sophisticated humans. If we could magically go back in time, their descriptions of us would probably be similar...

 

[BAMAVOO]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: z0mb13
I think it goes like this:

satan (lucifer) was actually the most powerful of god's angels... and somehow he was banished to hell or something like that

Banished because Lucifer rallied other angels against God to overthrow God.

There was a battle between the good and evil angels soon thereafter.

No, Satan wanted to be worshipped like God. He did not want to overthrow him.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Psycho16
We all know God is good and Satan/Devil is bad. But when something happens, why do we say, " Oh my God!"? This also leads me to the questioning of Satan. How did he/she/it become "Satan" and why?

IIRC, the concept of a Satan was developed as the middle ages went on, and that previously, there were many, and that it wasn't one dude in each story, but a different one. Apparently Satan is something close to 'accuser'.
Lucifer, I believe, is a mistranslation involving a king of Babylon.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Psycho16
Does anyone know why Satan wanted to overthrow God? Was it because he wanted to be powerful?

That depends on which of the 10^78 sects you go with. Generally something to do with free will, and how/when it is exercised.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Psycho16

Originally posted by: Psycho16
Why did God create hell for Lucifier?

Instead of creating hell for Lucifer, why didnt God just kill Lucifer?

This is a dead simple one.
Your kid murders someone. Death penalty or prison? Generally prison.

Then there's the South Park view, where Heaven was really just made for the Mormons, and Hell isn't so bad.

 

[fredtam]

Satan/ lucifer was not trying to take over. He was banished along with others because he did not wish to be subserviant (sp?) to God's greatest creation, Man. He was banished after he and other angels tried to (and did) corrupt man.

 

[Lazy8s]

want a cool take on it? read Memnoch the Devil by Anne Rice. Pretty freakin cool imho

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: Psycho16
We all know God is good and Satan/Devil is bad. But when something happens, why do we say, " Oh my God!"? This also leads me to the questioning of Satan. How did he/she/it become "Satan" and why?

IIRC, the concept of a Satan was developed as the middle ages went on, and that previously, there were many, and that it wasn't one dude in each story, but a different one. Apparently Satan is something close to 'accuser'.
Lucifer, I believe, is a mistranslation involving a king of Babylon.

This is almost correct. The "devil" as we see him now is a relatively recent idea. The casting out of Lucifer does refer to the King of Babylon but it is not the same person as Satan.

 

[Ynog]

Satan was Luciifer the most beatiful, most powerful and wises of all the Angels.

When Lucifier turned his back on God, he became Satan = Adversary in Hebrew.

Now God could have killled Satan and he would have cease to be. However casting them
into a pit of eternal torment is probably worse. Remember even Satan doesn't want to be in Hell.

Think about it. If someone did something horrible to you, or someone you care about,
Would you rather kill them or would you rather they suffer endlessly in the worst pain imaginable
for the rest of time.

You can read Milton's Paradise Lost on a view on the battle in heaven.

 

[fredtam]

Satan != Lucifer (of the new testament who was "cast down")