Siddhartha
Lifer
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The point is should the US spend money on health care or going to Mars. I can see the benefits of health care but what are they for going to the Mars?
Imagine if King Charles had restructured his economy so that exploration didn't require massive government subsidies.Putting the space program on the back burner is BS. Imagine if King Charles put Magellan's exploration on hold and spent the ship money on peasants.
The peasants might have had a better life.Imagine if King Charles put Magellan's exploration on hold and spent the ship money on peasants.
Imagine if King Charles had restructured his economy so that exploration didn't require massive government subsidies.
I have a friend who claims that GWB is not only the worst U.S. President ever, but the worst elected official in the history of all elected positions since the dawn of man. I have protested several times that this must be hyperbole, that there has to have been someone, somewhere, at least on an local or state level, who was worse. He says no, I'm fairly confident that this is accurate.
And this friend of mine is a republican.
- wolf
SP didn't really do anything "bad" as Governor...remind your friend that sarah palin was an elected official too ^_^
Europe would have circumvented the globe in the 1700s as opposed to the 1500s. Privatize health care, not science.
Hahahah, Reagan. Lets go ask some people in Nicaragua how good of a person Reagan was, or at least the ones that survived and aren't buried in mass graves.
Simply amazes me that people think a person with Alzheimers was one of the greatest presidents.
Wait, so do you seriously mean to imply that the voyages of the 14- and 1500s were primarily scientific in nature? Seriously? This never was about science. In the age of naval exploration science was a sideshow at best.
What someone in Nicaragua thinks of a president is not relevant to my opinion of him. He's the greatest president in modern times.
That was his later years. He wasn't brilliant in the "ivory tower elitist" way like we have today, he was just a great communicator who surrounded himself with smart folks (for the most part). He was able to communicate issues far beyond the comprehension of average folks in such a way as to make them believe in him. Made the elitists and the media furious, they all hated him, but he got re-elected in a landslide.
Of course the people with above average intelligence were furious, how could people line up to vote for someone who simply made baseless talking points?
See, that statement shows exactly how out of touch the elitists are. They were not the "above average intelligence" voters, they were the stupid out of touch elitists who always seem to think they are smarter than everyone else and that everyone else should agree with them.
That's what Reagan did best -- he understood what the common person felt and was able to communicate with them. The elitists can't fathom how someone could sink so low as to listen to the peasants instead of just telling them what's good for them and that they are just simple fools that need more explaining.
Incidentally, that's exactly what's going on now with the Tea Party. The elitists keep trying to marginalize them and portray them as a bunch of fringe crazies, when in fact they (on average) are a more educated group than the rest of the country. The more they thumb their nose at the people and pretend to know better, the stronger the Tea Party movement gets. Now we just need a new Reagan to lead again.
Hmmm. Best is hard to define. Most underrated, Carter. He's often given flak despite doing many good things and starting the fixes that neocons give Reagan credit for.
FDR did some great things but then also did some horrible things like the Japanese internment camps.
Probably favorite is Clinton. Despite the whole bj thing, he actually handled the office quite well. I think Obama has a good chance to be one of the best ever too.
Worst.
Andrew Jackson. Slaughtered thousands of indians and directly defied a Supreme Court ruling.
Reagan. Iran contra for one and all the bullshit with that. Reaganomics, one of the worst economic concepts ever.
GWB - directly responsible for the massive polarization between left and right we have now. It was never this bad under Clinton or Reagan. This divide is causing the republican party to slide so far right they're gonna tip the entire country over into chaos.
Gerald Ford was an outstanding president... well he could have been if he had not pardoned Nixon.
Barack Obama is also a favorite. He is getting things done. So what if the public is against what he is getting done and he is taking out a triple mortgage on our nation to do it. I like the recession... I get a lot of deals at resturaunts because they are struggling so much. Keep up the good work Obama!