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91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: tm37
I remember paying l8ike 1.99 an hour or something through compuserve

I was on prodigy also

And I was on like three BBS's in the day on my c-64

Me too. I remember a few of those BBS's would let you post messages that were viewable outside the BBS on "usenet" but I had no idea what it was at the time. I made a couple of posts but I was never able to see them. So I have a couple posts floating out there from the late 80's.
 

sharkeeper

Lifer
Jan 13, 2001
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HAHA!

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Subject: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (Last changed: 14 July 1985)
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[Most recent change: 14 July 1985 by spaf]

Frequently Submitted Items

This document discusses some items that occur repeatedly on Usenet.
They frequently are submitted by new users, and result in many
followups, sometimes swamping groups for weeks. The purpose of this
note is to head off these annoying events by answering some questions
and warning about the inevitable consequence of asking others. If you
don't like my answers let me know and I may include revisions in future
versions of this note.

1. What does UNIX stand for?

It is not an acronym, but is a pun on "MULTICS". MULTICS is a
large operating system that was being developed shortly before
UNIX was created.

2. What is the derivation of "foo" as a filler word?

The favorite story is that it comes from "fubar" which is an
acronym for "fouled up beyond all recognition", which is supposed
to be a military term. (Various forms of this exist, "fouled"
usually being replaced by a stronger word.) "Foo" and "Bar" have
the same derivation.

3. Is a machine at "foo" on the net?

These questions belong in net.news.config if anywhere, but in fact
your best bet is usually to phone somebody at "foo" to find out.
If you don't know anybody at "foo" you can always try calling and
asking for the "comp center." Also, see the newsgroup
mod.map.uucp where maps of Usenet and the uucp network are posted
regularly.

4. What does "rc" at the end of files like .newsrc mean?

I'm not sure of the exact history. It seems to be related to the
phrase "run command". It is used for any file that contains
startup information for a command. One belief is that the "rc"
stands for "ReConfiguration" which is what the file does.

5. What does "- (nf)" in an item's title mean?

It means that the item was created by "notefiles," an alternative
netnews interface that many people prefer. If you want to find
out more you can contact uiucdcs!essick. This interface is also
the source of "Orphaned Response" items.

6. What does mean?

This is the net convention for a "smiley face". It means that
something is being said in jest. If it doesn't look like a smiley
face to you, flop your head over to the left and look again.

7. How do I decrypt jokes in net.jokes?

The standard cypher used in net.jokes in called "rot13." Each
letter is replaced by the letter 13 farther along in the alphabet
(cycling around at the end). Most systems have a built in command
to decrypt such articles; readnews has the "D" command, rn has the
"X" or "^X" commands, notes has "%". If your system doesn't have
a program to encrypt and decrypt these, you can quickly create a
shell script using "tr":
tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m
On some versions of Unix, the "tr" command should be written as:
tr "[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]" "[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]"

8. net.general: Is John Doe out there anywhere?

I suspect that these items are people looking for Freshman room-
mates that they haven't seen in ten years. If you have some idea
where the person is you are usually better off calling the
organization. For example, if you call any Bell Labs location and
request John Doe's number they can give it to you even if he works
at a different location. If you must try the net, use newsgroup
net.net-people *NOT* net.general.

9. net.math: Proofs that 1=0.

Almost everyone has seen one or more of these in high school.
They are almost always based on either division by 0 or taking the
square root of a negative number.

10. net.games: Where can I get the source for empire or
rogue?

You can't. The authors of these games, as is their right, have
chosen not to make the sources available.

11. net.unix-wizards: How do I remove files with non-ascii
characters in their names?

You can try to find a pattern that uniquely identifies the file.
This sometimes fails because a peculiarity of some shells is that
they strip off the highorder bit of characters in command lines.
Next, you can try an rm -i, or rm -r. Finally, you can mess around
with i-node numbers and "find".

12. net.unix-wizards: There is a bug in the way UNIX handles
protection for programs that run suid.

There are indeed problems with the treatment of protection in
setuid programs. When this is brought up, suggestions for changes
range from implementing a full capability list arrangement to new
kernel calls for allowing more control over when the effective id
is used and when the real id is used to control accesses. Sooner
or later you can expect this to be improved. For now you just
have to live with it.

13. net.women: What do you think about abortion?

Although abortion might appear to be an appropriate topic for
net.women, more heat than light is generated when it is brought
up. Since the newsgroup net.abortion has been created, all
abortion-related discussion should take place there.

14. net.singles: What do MOTOS, MOTSS, and MOTAS stand for?

Member of the opposite sex, member of the same sex, and member of
the appropriate sex, respectively.
SO stands for "significant other".

15. net.columbia: Shouldn't this name be changed?

The name was devised to honor the first space shuttle. It was
realized at the time the group began that the name would quickly
become out of date. The intent was to create a bit of instant
nostalgia.

16. net.columbia: Shouldn't this group be merged with net.space?

No. Net.columbia is for timely news bulletins. net.space is for
discussions.

17. How do I use the "Distribution" feature?

When postnews prompts you for a distribution, it's asking how
widely distributed you want your article. The set of possible
replies is different, depending on where you are, but at Bell Labs
in Murray Hill, New Jersey, possibilities include:
mh3bc1 local to this machine
mh Bell Labs, Murray Hill Branch
nj all sites in New Jersey
btl All Bell Labs machines
att All AT&T machines
usa Everywhere in the USA
na Everywhere in North America
net Everywhere on Usenet in the world (same as "world")

If you hit return, you'll get the default, which is the first part
of the newsgroup name. This default is often not appropriate --
PLEASE take a moment to think about how far away people are likely
to be interested in what you have to say. Used car ads, housing
wanted ads, and things for sale other than specialized equipment
like computers certainly shouldn't be distributed to Europe and
Korea, or even to the next state.

The newsgroup "na.forsale" exists for postings of sale
announcements. Its distribution is limited to North America;
posters should restrict this distribution even further, if
possible and appropriate.

18. Why do some people put funny lines ("bug killers") at the beginning
of their articles?

Some earlier versions of news had a bug which would drop the first
512 or 1024 bytes of text of certain articles. The bug was
triggered whenever the article started with whitespace (a blank or
a tab). A fix many people adopted was to begin their articles
with a line containing a character other than white space. This
gradually evolved into the habit of including amusing first
lines.

The original bug has since been fixed in newer version of news,
and sites running older versions of news have applied a patch to
prevent articles from losing text. The "bug-killer" lines are
therefore no longer needed, but they linger on.


 

Skyclad1uhm1

Lifer
Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
My first NannyMUD character dates from third or fourth quarter of '92, that's the oldest proof I can think of.

Edit: Google turned up with this concerning Nannymud

Whoa... now that's a URL I've not seen in a long time... a long time indeed.
Memories are rushing back now, of downloading demos from HappyPuppy and LordSoth

I think this is my earliest proof, although if I can remember my full email addy from HS I might be able to dig up more.
(From TMBG listserv)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:06:51 -0700
From: Jason/KnightFire <dalffson@serv01.net-link.net>
Organization: Underground Inc.
Subject: Re: they flock to the strangest places

yeah, i saw it too. it was during "my so-called life" and the individual
was CMooney302, just in case anyone wants to congratulate him/her or
something.

[I removed my sig here, it had a Dr Seuss quote I forgot I'd ever used]
It was talking about some thing on MTV where online users could display a message on TV, and someone typed "They Might Be Giants"

Heh... I poked about a tad more, and my post to the same listserv a few days earlier includes the same quote that's in my sig right now

You haven't seen it in a long time... does that mean you used to play NannyMUD too?

Got especially fond memories from playing at home through a 1200 baud link, buffering commandos and waiting several minutes sometimes for the scrolling to stop
(Killed Merlin's Pet once that way, with a level 6 or 8 character... took ages before someone managed to kill it with an even lower character )
 

aolj

Golden Member
Feb 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: WannaFly
Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Can you find out dates on ICQ numbers? I have my old number but no password. Look at me on 72882145.

I dont know but you have a really high ICQ number - mine was 414939!


That's still high. Mine was 332253. But of course, I don't have the password to that anymore.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
35,466
4
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Originally posted by: WT
I went to school with a guy who moved just down the road from me in '85. I went over to his house and he had either a Commodore 64 or an Amiga (forgive me for not knowing, I didn't get my first PC until '89) and had crate upon crate of 5.25" floppies with all manner of pirated games on them. He and a few friends had a BBS offering up these games, which was so far above what I knew at the time .. I just marveled at how advanced this schoolmate had become, and here I was still trying to just get a date ! I always referred to him as the 'War Games' kid, hoping that I wasn't too close to true in that statement. It was a real eye opener to what was available in the virtual world of BBS and FTP lairs.

Don't copy that floppy...
 

iamskew

Senior member
Aug 17, 2004
538
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I don't have any proof, but I joined prodigy with a 14.4 back in 1995 i think...I used to play checkers a lot when it would work, I remember playing this dude named "vegas Al" all the time and he would always beat me, then one day I beat him and it was the greatest day ever..lol...I was 10 or 11 at the time. I joined AOl at version 2.5, I know that for sure, I had to of been one of the earlier members, at least in the first million if not less than first 500k. I fondly remember my first exposure to online FPS play with "Splatterball"...god I wish that game still existed, I would still play....
 

MrLuckyPants

Senior member
Jan 25, 2005
229
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My eBay account (MrLuckyPants) is from 12/1996 (see the eBay feedback link in my sig).

There's a listing for my old BBS (Cavalier BBS) from 05/1992: Link

Somewhere in between I started on the Internet...
 

lotus503

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2005
6,502
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I was Late 80's early 90's

Fondest memories were trashing people s A drives with AOL Hell
Trading Warez via secret AOL private rooms.
 

Zontor

Senior member
Sep 19, 2000
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Around 1991 - Using an old CP/M system (with 8" floppy drives) that I picked up for $50 and hooked up to a Bell 300 Baud dumb modem via Sprintnet (???)...you could hit BBS's in various cities and had limited intranet/usenet access via the university.

Anyhow it was $25 a month for 25 hours....undocumented commands....ah, that was the day. Used a serial cable and brought over Zork onto one of my 8" floppies, ran just fine on CPM...course the z80 and the 8086 were very closely related....

Still got that system in the garage....great memories!
 

edmicman

Golden Member
May 30, 2001
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Don't remember the dates, but the first "online" time was with a 300 baud modem on a C64...we signed up for some service...I think it was called QLink or something like that. I don't remember much regarding it though. Then came the AOL and BBS days. We had AOL when it was in DOS and was based on GEOS(? or something like that?) :-/ heh. Played Neverwinter Nights (the original).
 

VTrider

Golden Member
Nov 21, 1999
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I used to browse BBS on a 300 baud modem w/apple computers, back in....1984 was it? Before that, connected to BBS and Compuserve via a Texas Instruments TI-994A with one of those modems with the 2 cups for the phone to rest in (like in that old movie war games).

It's funny, did anybody else have a compuserve account? I still remember my user ID # like I remember my SS #.
 

dev0lution

Senior member
Dec 23, 2004
472
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Doubt I was even close to the first, but was on Compuserve in 92 or 93 (does this even count as "the internet"?) and was on through a university account in the summer of 94 (ahhh...mosaic). IRC taught me how to type fast and what (little) I know about UNIX
 

cricky

Senior member
Nov 9, 1999
641
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Oldest using Google Groups search: Usenet postings back from Sept. 1992. Including a few back and forths with Jay Wilbur about the release of Wolf3d & upcoming release of a game called Doom...
Older than that: Tried to find a few textfiles from a local "phreak" e-zine from the late 80's that I did a couple articles for while in Jr. High. No luck, can't remember the name of the group. Getting old...
 

Landroval

Platinum Member
Feb 5, 2005
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would have to be BITNET/email in the mid-1980s, nothing of it is online now but I have some prnted postingswith headers buried away (and likely faded by now :Q )
 

beatmix01

Golden Member
Jun 22, 2001
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I was on Prodigy in '93.
Hung out on the BBS's in NY - Port Harbor BBS, Artificial Intelligence, Jims House of Files, etc.

 
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