Who still uses Usenet?

[zokudu]

First off, what do you call 'torrenting properly'? Are you using a paid proxy that actually does something to protect you?
For Usenet did you pay for a good indexing site like NZBMatrix?
Did you use SAB, Sickbeard, and Couchpotato?

I got 1 month unlimited from supernews, paid for NZBMatrix, used SABnzbd for general stuff and swapped my sickbeard setup to use usenet. I found needing a PAR repair program stupid and my issue really ended up being the content. It was always really hit or miss for me unless it was a TV show that aired in the last week. Older movies with out of sync audio or just poor encodes in general.

YHPM as well.

 

[rh71]

So I've been testing Usenet for the last month and in my opinion it is not better than torrenting properly. Canceling my subscription, what a waste of cash.

I bought a 1TB block for $40 and have a lifetime to use it so I'm not worried, but I also find it disappointing. I subbed to nzbmatrix but I find that the only real use I have for newsgroups is movies as that's the only category I fear torrenting. And there aren't even any "new release" must haves that are good quality. TV shows are no problem with torrents (eztv), easy to get to, and free - won't eat into my paid allotment.

 

[Druidx]

What does a seed box have to do with usenet, it's apples to oranges. Usenet is great for popular content. Private trackers for everything else.
All my recent TV shows and movies are automatically download from usenet to my media server via Sick Beard or Couchpotato. Any hard to find or older content is handles thru my seedbox and private specialty trackers.

 

[SheHateMe]

Astraweb, NZBMatrix, and SABnzd is all I need in life.

I pay $11 for Astraweb, I think it was $12 for NZBMatrix.

 

[fatpat268]

Astraweb, NZBMatrix, and SABnzd is all I need in life.

I pay $11 for Astraweb, I think it was $12 for NZBMatrix.

Yep.

Add in sickbeard, and you've got a great combo. I've got an unraid server that has 5 harddrives with ~6tb of usable space running all that stuff. Anything that Sickbeard downloads, gets automatically sent to Plex, which is then available to view off my Roku.

It's pretty much all automated now.

 

[slag]

So I've been testing Usenet for the last month and in my opinion it is not better than torrenting properly. Canceling my subscription, what a waste of cash.

You are doing it wrong and thanks.

I downloaded 85 gb of discussions last night. Kid is home from school tomorrow and Friday for parent teacher conferences and I didn't feel like ripping my cheap bluray movies for him to watch. Downloading was much easier.

 

[wirednuts]

you know, someday all this content we keep digging to find will be universally available and affordable. as to why it is not like that already is mind boggling to me. the studios really think having a stranglehold on their content while nickel and diming is the way to make the most profit; thats nothing more then the same failed ideology that we have seen over the past few decades. not fail i suppose, they arent hurting for cash... but they are the ones who claim they are losing money.

and im curious as to what netflix is going to do. they claim they "will never charge more then $8 a month for streaming", but what does that mean? streaming unlimited movies from a specific contracted selection? will they ever create live channels, with new startup networks that could potentially threaten the current cable ones? i wish they would. i think its inevitable the internet will one day replace this stupid proprietary entertainment system we have... i just think its surprising it hasnt by now.

 

[SheHateMe]

I'm dumb and I don't know what I'm doing. Canceling my subscription, what a waste of cash.

ftfy

 

[zokudu]

ftfy

*shrug* w.e I have better ways of getting content.

 

[Childs]

I got 1 month unlimited from supernews, paid for NZBMatrix, used SABnzbd for general stuff and swapped my sickbeard setup to use usenet. I found needing a PAR repair program stupid and my issue really ended up being the content. It was always really hit or miss for me unless it was a TV show that aired in the last week. Older movies with out of sync audio or just poor encodes in general.

YHPM as well.

Most of the movies are posted to usenet first, then grabbed from there and torrents are put up. If you had a movie thats out of sync, you would most likely get an out of sync movie via torrents, if its from the same release. Sometimes I use NZBsRUS, because they have a comment system. You can tell ahead of time if someone ran into some issues. They usually post screen shots as well. Then just search for that release's version on a free nzb index site.

I routinely go back 700 or more days to get things. I admit sometimes I need to download a couple of different versions of the same thing for various reasons, but I download from usenet at my full bandwidth speed, so its almost always faster than torrents, especially for older stuff.

What put me off of torrents was getting notices from my ISP, and it was almost always porn. No way I'm going to get sued for that. I took the usual precautions, besides paying for proxy/vpn services, but I would still get popped. Now my ISP knows I wanted to watch *** guzzlers 6. Imagine getting served a lawsuit with that title on file. Usenet is still pretty much off the content holders radar. With torrents you have to connect to other people, and thats when you get popped. Only way to get popped using usenet is for them to subpoena the usenet provider and ISP. Legally much harder to do, and therefore cost prohibitive to pursue.

 

[rh71]

Yep.

Add in sickbeard, and you've got a great combo. I've got an unraid server that has 5 harddrives with ~6tb of usable space running all that stuff. Anything that Sickbeard downloads, gets automatically sent to Plex, which is then available to view off my Roku.

It's pretty much all automated now.

Got a ROKU HD (wifi only) today finally. How do you stream files from your pc and does it support all typical formats? Quick search didn't reveal much other than some post saying to setup a web server? Or maybe there's a roku addon channel now available for this?

EDIT >> I now know what you mean by Plex.

 

[SheHateMe]

What about Popcorn Hour? Anyone use that? I'm thinking about getting one.

 

[SheHateMe]

*shrug* w.e I have better ways of getting content.

like torrents..?

:awe:

 

[zokudu]

Honestly you are all using the wrong torrents if what you all seem to think is true. They are flat out better if you know where to go.

 

[lxskllr]

Honestly you are all using the wrong torrents if what you all seem to think is true. They are flat out better if you know where to go.

Sometimes you're unlucky. I have a torrent stalled at 96.4%. I keep hoping someone comes back, but it's looking bleak. It takes a special kind of penis to abandon a swarm that isn't covered 100% :^S

 

[SheHateMe]

Id rather not torrent. Don't want to have to deal with files that don't have many seeders and TOO MANY leechers.

With Usenet, I get all my shit at 6MB/s sometimes faster depending on whether Im at school or at home.

I'll pass on the torrents.

 

[bbhaag]

I miss the Noid. Usenet is ok so is IRC but neither one ever seems to deliver quit like Demonoid did.
I swear I could find anything on there...

 

[zokudu]

Id rather not torrent. Don't want to have to deal with files that don't have many leechers.

With Usenet, I get all my shit at 6MB/s sometimes faster depending on whether Im at school or at home.

I'll pass on the torrents.

Again if you have torrent without a lot of seeders you're in the wrong place.

 

[SheHateMe]

I still have a bitgamer account.

 

[Childs]

Honestly you are all using the wrong torrents if what you all seem to think is true. They are flat out better if you know where to go.

Like I said in the PM, with usenet you get max bandwidth throughout the download. Torrents, by their nature, take a little bit of time to get up to full speed. I suppose its possible that my news server wouldnt max a fiber connection, and maybe a torrent would be faster if it exceeded the news server max speed for a significant amount of time. If you really wanted to split hairs, you could factor in the verify and possible repair time in usenet, but I would put down real money, that on Comcast, in my area, usenet is faster than torrents.

 

[BladeVenom]

Again if you have torrent without a lot of seeders you're in the wrong place.

If you have a torrent with lots of seeders, the MPAA/RIAA is watching you.

 

[silverpig]

If you have a torrent with lots of seeders, the MPAA/RIAA is watching you.

You don't need a lot, you just need enough.

Get on a good private tracker and you'll get better content than anything on usenet, and there will be plenty of swedish gigabit up/down connections as seeds to saturate anything you might have.

The power users on good trackers have crazy seedboxes set up. There's more bandwidth than the leechers on the site could ever hope to max out.

 

[Juddog]

You don't need a lot, you just need enough.

Get on a good private tracker and you'll get better content than anything on usenet, and there will be plenty of swedish gigabit up/down connections as seeds to saturate anything you might have.

The power users on good trackers have crazy seedboxes set up. There's more bandwidth than the leechers on the site could ever hope to max out.

How much do these seedboxes cost?

 

[zokudu]

How much do these seedboxes cost?

It's ~15 for a 500Mbps upload box with 333GB of storage.

 

[rh71]

If you have a torrent with lots of seeders, the MPAA/RIAA is watching you.

why haven't they gone after tv show torrents? I think they have on HBO shows, but why haven't all networks joined in?

The other thing with newsgroups is it's not free where torrents are. People are saying they like their speed on newsgroups, but I'm thinking because they are willing to pay extra for it, it's the privacy they really want. Torrents are not slow. How often do people grab stuff from 60+ days ago that they rely on newsgroups? I haven't grabbed anything there in weeks. It's a good thing I didn't opt for a monthly sub.