Who still uses Usenet?

[SheHateMe]

why haven't they gone after tv show torrents? I think they have on HBO shows, but why haven't all networks joined in?

The other thing with newsgroups is it's not free where torrents are. People are saying they like their speed on newsgroups, but I'm thinking because they are willing to pay extra for it, it's the privacy they really want. Torrents are not slow. How often do people grab stuff from 60+ days ago that they rely on newsgroups? I haven't grabbed anything there in weeks. It's a good thing I didn't opt for a monthly sub.

I grab old shit from newsgroups all the time.

Lets put it this way, people who swear by torrents don't mind putting themselves at risk because its free. You might luck out and be able to join a community with private trackers...like Demonoid or BitGamer. However, these websites are hard to get into unless you know someone. I got into Demonoid 5 years ago when they only did registrations one day a week at some obscure time of the day..after that, I'd never seen the registration portal open again. BitGamer, I lucked out because I knew someone that was a power seeder that was allowed to invite.

I use Usenet because I'm tired of torrents, I can afford to gamble $11/month for Astraweb so I can browse NZBMatrix. I can get whatever I need with no problem. I don't use Usnet every day of the month, probably once or twice a week but the point is..its there when I need things fast, I don't have to worry about seeders or leechers or MPIAA/RIAA bullshit.

 

[fatpat268]

Get on a good private tracker and you'll get better content than anything on usenet, and there will be plenty of swedish gigabit up/down connections as seeds to saturate anything you might have.

What's your definition of "better" content anyway? I used to do the whole private tracker thing (Demonoid was overrated, btw), and there's not a whole lot that I can't find on usenet.

 

[zokudu]

What's your definition of "better" content anyway? I used to do the whole private tracker thing (Demonoid was overrated, btw), and there's not a whole lot that I can't find on usenet.

Demonoid is not what we are talking about. The major difference is the availability of non scene p2p content. The scene focuses on the race to release first, proper p2p encoders spend days to get the best filesize:quality ratios on movies. TV shows I tend to stick to web DLs which i mentioned I was able to find on Usenet just fine. Also properly ripped FLACs and mp3s. Outside of a few sites, I have no clue where mp3s come from.

 

[tommo123]

why haven't they gone after tv show torrents? I think they have on HBO shows, but why haven't all networks joined in?

The other thing with newsgroups is it's not free where torrents are. People are saying they like their speed on newsgroups, but I'm thinking because they are willing to pay extra for it, it's the privacy they really want. Torrents are not slow. How often do people grab stuff from 60+ days ago that they rely on newsgroups? I haven't grabbed anything there in weeks. It's a good thing I didn't opt for a monthly sub.

a lot, really. never heard good thing about a show you've never watched before? i can jump back 1400+ days now and peruse at my leisure.

torrents have their pros and cons, same as groups. i just prefer groups

 

[wirednuts]

they do go after tv shows. at least fox does. i have a couple emails from charter security about sons of anarchy and i dont know how. not sure why they think that show is worth stealing anyway

 

[Sephire]

I got 1 month unlimited from supernews, paid for NZBMatrix, used SABnzbd for general stuff and swapped my sickbeard setup to use usenet. I found needing a PAR repair program stupid and my issue really ended up being the content. It was always really hit or miss for me unless it was a TV show that aired in the last week. Older movies with out of sync audio or just poor encodes in general.

YHPM as well.

You are doing it wrong.

 

[Sephire]

a lot, really. never heard good thing about a show you've never watched before? i can jump back 1400+ days now and peruse at my leisure.

torrents have their pros and cons, same as groups. i just prefer groups

Back in the day for a paid sub you get only 500 days.

 

[Sephire]

All I can say is the moment you got ding for downloading a specific torrent from your ISP its time to get on the newsgroup bandwagon.

 

[BladeVenom]

they do go after tv shows. at least fox does. i have a couple emails from charter security about sons of anarchy and i dont know how. not sure why they think that show is worth stealing anyway

And you never know when they are going to go from sending out warning emails to actually suing people.

 

[bbhaag]

Demonoid is not what we are talking about. The major difference is the availability of non scene p2p content. The scene focuses on the race to release first, proper p2p encoders spend days to get the best filesize:quality ratios on movies. TV shows I tend to stick to web DLs which i mentioned I was able to find on Usenet just fine. Also properly ripped FLACs and mp3s. Outside of a few sites, I have no clue where mp3s come from.

This is what bugs me the most about usenet. It seems like on torrent sites you get individual people uploading content that the scene doesn't have time for. On usenet you don't get that nearly as much.
Example:Lego Ninjago Masters of Spinjitzu on the CTN.

 

[zokudu]

This is what bugs me the most about usenet. It seems like on torrent sites you get individual people uploading content that the scene doesn't have time for. On usenet you don't get that nearly as much.
Example:Lego Ninjago Masters of Spinjitzu on the CTN.

My TV site has 2 full seasons and half of season 3? Is it still airing?

 

[bbhaag]

My TV site has 2 full seasons and half of season 3? Is it still airing?

It is still airing. Season 2 is wraping up now. SO2E22 The Last Voyage is the latest episode to air.
C_P is a scene release group that is mislabeling their releases as season 3. Their is no season 3 yet.

 

[fatpat268]

This is what bugs me the most about usenet. It seems like on torrent sites you get individual people uploading content that the scene doesn't have time for. On usenet you don't get that nearly as much.
Example:Lego Ninjago Masters of Spinjitzu on the CTN.

I found it on usenet.

Demonoid is not what we are talking about. The major difference is the availability of non scene p2p content. The scene focuses on the race to release first, proper p2p encoders spend days to get the best filesize:quality ratios on movies. TV shows I tend to stick to web DLs which i mentioned I was able to find on Usenet just fine. Also properly ripped FLACs and mp3s. Outside of a few sites, I have no clue where mp3s come from.

Demonoid was only an example. It's been so long for me, that I hardly know the "go to" private trackers nowadays. There's plenty of non scene content on usenet. It's there. But you're right, there will always be more torrent stuff anyway, just by the nature that anyone can create a torrent and seed it. It's a little more difficult via usenet. But a lot of stuff is on usenet, but I guess if your tastes are a bit too eclectic, you may not find some things.

Anyway, that's the last I'll say, as it's a silly argument anyway.

 

[bbhaag]

I found it on usenet.

Ya since the scene stoped releasesing them from S2E02 I've been uploading them for the guys on the matrix. I manually load the .nzb file to the site so they can enjoy them. I mainly do it because a lot of them have kids who really enjoy the show.

 

[AMDZen]

I grab old shit from newsgroups all the time.

Lets put it this way, people who swear by torrents don't mind putting themselves at risk because its free. You might luck out and be able to join a community with private trackers...like Demonoid or BitGamer. However, these websites are hard to get into unless you know someone. I got into Demonoid 5 years ago when they only did registrations one day a week at some obscure time of the day..after that, I'd never seen the registration portal open again. BitGamer, I lucked out because I knew someone that was a power seeder that was allowed to invite.

I use Usenet because I'm tired of torrents, I can afford to gamble $11/month for Astraweb so I can browse NZBMatrix. I can get whatever I need with no problem. I don't use Usnet every day of the month, probably once or twice a week but the point is..its there when I need things fast, I don't have to worry about seeders or leechers or MPIAA/RIAA bullshit.

LOLLOLOLOL

You just called Demonoid a private tracker. LOLOLOLOL

 

[SheHateMe]

I found it on usenet.

Yep, just checked NZBMatrix. Tons of files for this show I have never heard of on Usenet..

 

[bbhaag]

Yep, just checked NZBMatrix. Tons of files for this show I have never heard of on Usenet..

Didn't read the rest of the thread did ya?

 

[SheHateMe]

Didn't read the rest of the thread did ya?

Oh, I'm sorry I gave another poster attention instead of giving it to you.

Kudos for uploading a show I've never heard of on Usenet. Happy now?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Ubuntu
LAMP
Couch Potato
Sick Beard
Headphones
SABnzbd+
4 TB RAID 0
XBMC

 

[SMOGZINN]

Ubuntu
LAMP
Couch Potato
Sick Beard
Headphones
SABnzbd+
4 TB RAID 0
XBMC

What are you using LAMP for dealing with a HTPC?

For everyone else, I have NZBMatric account, what indexer do you use, and why?

 

[AMDZen]

Usenet with encrypted connection. Yet another benefit.

LOL. More useless people who don't know what they're talking about. All the good private trackers have SSL.

You can encrypt your connection any way with any torrent client.

It blows my mind how much misinformation there is about torrents out there. All those cliches are only true if you are using public trackers and even then there are steps to take where its difficult for the RIAA/MPAA to see what you are doing.

I know people who just use kat.ph and never hear from their ISP because they keep updated IP filters and encrypt their connection. And if you're still scared, a seedbox is the same cost as a news account without the limitations. Even the best which I think is astraweb only gives you 20 concurrent connections, maybe enough for some but not others. A decent seedbox is completely transparent to your ISP the same way a usenet subscription would be.

Its fine that others prefer one to the other, but its funny that so many deem usenet superior and then give inaccurate reasons on why its superior.

 

[SheHateMe]

Even the best which I think is astraweb only gives you 20 concurrent connections, maybe enough for some but not others.

You will need to use all those connections in the first place. I probably have maxed out half of the connections and I can get stuff between ~ 6-10mb/s at home and even more at school.

Also, when I used torrents, I ran PeerBlock all the time. I just don't have time to find sites out there with good private trackers. BitGamer is probably the only thing that is still worth my time and I gave that account away a long time ago.

 

[AMDZen]

You will need to use all those connections in the first place. I probably have maxed out half of the connections and I can get stuff between ~ 6-10mb/s at home and even more at school.

Also, when I used torrents, I ran PeerBlock all the time. I just don't have time to find sites out there with good private trackers. BitGamer is probably the only thing that is still worth my time and I gave that account away a long time ago.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here, did you mean "You will not need all of those connections"?

Because if thats the case - you are wrong, 20 isn't enough for me. Everything you download is in parts on usenet and you can spend 20 just on one TV show or something, what if you are downloading 20 TV shows at a time? You will be waiting for the first show to finish before the second one starts, and so on - since each show is in 20+ parts. If you meant it the way you said it, then that was the same argument that I was making. 20 isn't enough.

Also, you don't need peerguard or anything else, you just need a file with the ip address strings that you need to filter and plug it into uTorrent or whatever torrent client you use. No other software is necessary.

Personally, I prefer torrent because I don't always know what I want when I go out there, I just look at what everyone else is getting and I'm like Sweet, didn't know there was a new show like this out.

I don't watch much TV in real time so I don't always know when there is a new show thats coming out. Same with everything else that I download, I don't necessarily know what I want until I get to the site and then there is a huge community as well to bounce things off of.

I will say that Usenet is awesome as long as you know what you want, but even then certain things are very difficult to find.

In all reality, I used to use everything, and I am part of enough communities now that I don't need to use Usenet or anything else anymore. I can find everything with Torrents. I understand that not everybody has that kind of outreach. But its not difficult to obtain private tracker invites as you alluded to earlier, it takes work but its certainly not that hard. You are either spending time and working the internet to get on the best sites, or you are spending money on Usenet. Although I used to do both, now I no longer need to spend money since I spent all that time in the torrent community

 

[Childs]

I'm not sure what you are arguing here, did you mean "You will not need all of those connections"?

Because if thats the case - you are wrong, 20 isn't enough for me. Everything you download is in parts on usenet and you can spend 20 just on one TV show or something, what if you are downloading 20 TV shows at a time? You will be waiting for the first show to finish before the second one starts, and so on - since each show is in 20+ parts. If you meant it the way you said it, then that was the same argument that I was making. 20 isn't enough.

1 connection maxes out my bandwidth. Its something like 25Mb/s, so 3MB/s. Allowing more connections is somewhat pointless. In general, downloading 20 things concurrently isn't any faster than downloading them sequentially. If anything, in practical terms its feels longer because you cannot view file 1 when file 2 is downloading, because when its concurrent all files will finish at roughly the same time.

 

[AMDZen]

1 connection maxes out my bandwidth. Its something like 25Mb/s, so 3MB/s. Allowing more connections is somewhat pointless. In general, downloading 20 things concurrently isn't any faster than downloading them sequentially. If anything, in practical terms its feels longer because you cannot view file 1 when file 2 is downloading, because when its concurrent all files will finish at roughly the same time.

I should have been more specific since I was talking about their $10 a month plan which seems like the best plan for the price. Its been a while since I looked into Usenet pricing, unlimited usage is a must and I was used to paying more than $10 which isn't worth it. At $10 its limited to 10 Mbps connection globally, not per connection and then 20 each at 10 Mbps. That isn't enough for me.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/unlimitedplans.html

The other sites like that I used to do business with Giganews is more expensive. I don't know how much some of you guys are paying but I wouldn't personally want to pay more than that. However the "DSL" plan that is unlimited would be OK at $15 a month.