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Childs

Lifer
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I should have been more specific since I was talking about their $10 a month plan which seems like the best plan for the price. Its been a while since I looked into Usenet pricing, unlimited usage is a must and I was used to paying more than $10 which isn't worth it. At $10 its limited to 10 Mbps connection globally, not per connection and then 20 each at 10 Mbps. That isn't enough for me.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/unlimitedplans.html

The other sites like that I used to do business with Giganews is more expensive. I don't know how much some of you guys are paying but I wouldn't personally want to pay more than that. However the "DSL" plan that is unlimited would be OK at $15 a month.

My account must have preceded the current rate plans. They state:

The download speed on our unlimited plans are spread over the number of available connections.

But I get much more than 10Mb/s. I only pay $11/month. My plan is a couple of years old...I think there was just unlimited when I signed up.

Edit: Doh...I could just log in and see what my account is. Unlimited DSL $11 special. So it makes sense why I would never have run into this limit.
 
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Sephire

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Everyone's Fightclub membership is hereby revoked

People are now realizing the privacy issues of torrenting. Usenet use is slowly reaching mainstream. NG services is going to make millions in the coming year.
 

SMOGZINN

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Grabit Vs SABnzbd?? i use grabit since i was a noob nevr used anything else

They are different things. Grabit is a fully featured headline reader, while SAB is a NZB grabber. So if you are used to grabbing the headlines of newsgroups and reading through them for what you want to download, then you want Grabit, if you use a indexer site to find NZBs to download then you should probably take the time to setup SAB.
Personally I use both, for their different strengths.
 

Juddog

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Dec 11, 2006
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People are now realizing the privacy issues of torrenting. Usenet use is slowly reaching mainstream. NG services is going to make millions in the coming year.

Once it hits mainstream, expect the usenet hosts to get raided by the feds on behalf of the RIAA. Services like Astraweb are in for a heap of trouble, since a case can be made that they're basically hosting copywritten content for a fee (in other words they are profiting directly from people pirating - which is a big no-no, just ask Kim Dotcom).
 

96Firebird

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Once it hits mainstream, expect the usenet hosts to get raided by the feds on behalf of the RIAA.

This is why I'm ok with torrents being the mainstream way for people to download. Leave my usenet in the background...
 

Linflas

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Once it hits mainstream, expect the usenet hosts to get raided by the feds on behalf of the RIAA. Services like Astraweb are in for a heap of trouble, since a case can be made that they're basically hosting copywritten content for a fee (in other words they are profiting directly from people pirating - which is a big no-no, just ask Kim Dotcom).

Once? lol It hit the "mainstream" in the late 1980's/early 1990's. It is incredibly easy to use now compared to the days when you had to uuencode/uudecode on your own to post or download binaries.
 

Juddog

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Once? lol It hit the "mainstream" in the late 1980's/early 1990's. It is incredibly easy to use now compared to the days when you had to uuencode/uudecode on your own to post or download binaries.

My point is that a service which holds the files for x days, allows access to them, then charges people a monthly fee, would be knowingly making a profit from infringing materials. The part which counts against them is holding onto the old usenet posts on their own servers. It makes it much easier than leaving a client up and running on a PC, scouring usenet to try and place together all of the file pieces.

Anybody paying a service such as that has all of their credit info, IP addresses, etc. logged on their servers - if these become confiscated, it would be fairly simple to trace who downloaded what, depending on how long they keep their log files for.
 

lxskllr

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Some of you might want to consider i2p...

http://files.uploadlab.com/photos/WBiwBEah.png

http://www.i2p2.de/index.html

It's sloooow, but anonymous, and completely decentralized. Aside from downloading, it works for anything you don't want other people to see, and protects against failures due to centralized services like Amazon cloud fiasco yesterday. It's what the internet was meant to be, as opposed to central gatekeepers monitoring, and metering access. The more people that use it, the better the network will be.

To be clear, this is a darknet system. It isn't meant to access the clearnet. You can get to the clearnet, but it isn't recommended, as you lose the benefits and protections of staying within the system.
 

Mark R

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Oct 9, 1999
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theres no way to track newsgroup users though? it seems like it would be even easier

A lot of the usenet providers have things such as "guaranteed no log files" in large print on the marketing literature.

Whether you believe that or not...

If you don't, then there are actually usenet suppliers that accept cash, or cash-by-wire type payments (you take a voucher to a bank or convenience store with a terminal, hand over cash, and they credit it to the provider's account matched to a customer number - no one at any stage of this process needs any ID).
 
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blackangst1

Lifer
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A lot of the usenet providers have things such as "guaranteed no log files" in large print on the marketing literature.

Whether you believe that or not...

If you don't, then there are actually usenet suppliers that accept cash, or cash-by-wire type payments (you take a voucher to a bank or convenience store with a terminal, hand over cash, and they credit it to the provider's account matched to a customer number - no one at any stage of this process needs any ID).

This has been discussed ad nauseum here and other boards. The amount of space required to store those logs would cripple a newsgroup provider. They probably keep track of WHEN you connect, and for sure they track the amount of data you download (you can check that yourself when you log in to your account) but keeping records for what groups you download headers or content from? I highly doubt it.
 

robphelan

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I had been running Sickbeard / SABnzbd / NZB Matrix to catch up on shows my DVR missed. It seems that those TV shows are still being found.

Do I not need NZB Matrix to help Sickbeard in the finding of those shows? Was Matrix that just for other pirate bay style stuff?
 

Hugo Drax

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Nov 20, 2011
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Sad, I used to use Usenet back in the days, it was a great place for discussions etc.. its a wasteland right now though.
 

KeypoX

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Once? lol It hit the "mainstream" in the late 1980's/early 1990's. It is incredibly easy to use now compared to the days when you had to uuencode/uudecode on your own to post or download binaries.

Its pretty mainstream considering its talked about here, and other forums like slickdeals, fatwallet.

Tho many people don't know what a torrent is, just regular users.
 

SheHateMe

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Jul 21, 2012
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Well, Im just happy Im not one of those that bought VIP at NZBMatrix recently. I've had my account for over a year now.

Sad to see them, go. They were one of the best. Now I have to wait until the dust settles from everyone scrambling to find another indexer.
 

robphelan

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it's been about a year for me, too .. but can you answer whether SABnzbd needs an indexer like NZBMatrix or can it get along fine with out it when using Sickbeard as the front end?
 

Sephire

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Feb 9, 2011
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This is what happens when they make it easier for the masses. I have never used any indexing sites. Binsearch (others like it) are enough for me.
 

jsalpha2

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I still find an interesting discussion once in a while at alt.comp.freeware, but there at least 50% of the posts from crazies!
 

SheHateMe

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it's been about a year for me, too .. but can you answer whether SABnzbd needs an indexer like NZBMatrix or can it get along fine with out it when using Sickbeard as the front end?

SABnzbd is just a download client. It doesnt index usenet files..

so to answer your question...yes.

You can also just use RSS feeds with SAB. I don't do that so I cant really tell you how it works. I plugged NZBMatrix into SAB and everything was automated. I found another place now.
 
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