There is a third wheel called Apple that is pushing Intel really hard for faster and more power efficient CPUs. Intel might still delay Ivy Bridge, but not by much (I hope!). Or release Ivy at more conservative clocks to allow later refresh and a longer road to Haswell.
I hope to god some huge corporation with deep pockets buys AMD (Apple, Samsung, etc) and devotes proper resources to R&D, establishes their own fabs and pays top dollar for the best engineers on the planet. At present they just cannot go against a well established, rich behemoth like Intel who will rub their nose in the dirt every time they come up with something.
I distinctly remember this conversation back when the Phenom came out and when the HD2900 came out.
There is no way AMD will be out of the desktop market, EVER.
Ever hear of 3dfx ?
I'm certain somebody way back then said, "There is no way 3dfx will be out of the graphics card market, EVER EVEr, EVer, Ever, ever... ev......." <- echo fading in the distance.
Do not mistake my pessimism for satisfaction. Not what I want to happen to AMD.
Intel could just push back release schedule and let AMD float, kind of like what happened for years until K7 started ramping up.
AMD will most certainly be around in 3 years.
Lmaothe biggest joke of all . The eu saying intel was slowing cpu innovation . Weres the 1 billion dollar fine for amds contribution for slowing innovation with this cpu.
Will anyone even care about the desktop CPU market by 2014?
So can anyone answer why they didnt just do a die shrink instead, that would probably lead to better performance than this.
The market needs AMD. No AMD and guess how much you'll be paying for that Intel processor? No AMD? Watch how Intel slows innovation by taking a back seat because they are already happy with what they are offering the market. If no one is around to push Intel we will all be sorry. Competition breeds innovation.
Will anyone even care about the desktop CPU market by 2014?
There is a third wheel called Apple that is pushing Intel really hard for faster and more power efficient CPUs. Intel might still delay Ivy Bridge, but not by much (I hope!). Or release Ivy at more conservative clocks to allow later refresh and a longer road to Haswell.
I don't think Apple has the volume of CPU sales to push Intel to do anything.
For every low power CPU Apples sells HP sells 10.