Who was a greater genius?

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So

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Newton, he gave us Calculus and Universal gravitiation, in addition to his three laws. Sure he duplicated other's work, but he deserves credit for breaking a lot of ground and unifying much.

Einstein stands almost exactly the same, IMO, except he lived in an age where science was much more proven, so Newton gets my nod.
 

Everyone is approaching this from a scientific standpoint.
So the results will be skewed.
 

torpid

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I answered da vinci before reading the OP. According to the criteria established by the OP, I guess I'll go with newton, but einstein is an equally good choice. According to the question of who was the greatest genius only, and not who had the biggest impact, I would say Da Vinci.
 

amcdonald

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I voted for beethoven... he's affected me more directly than the others...
But after seeing it posted elsewhere, the answer should be einstein...
On the shoulders of giants he allowed us to destroy the world. kudos.

I bet beethoven/da vinci/michelangelo would be happier with their work though, knowing their effects through present time.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: torpid
I answered da vinci before reading the OP. According to the criteria established by the OP, I guess I'll go with newton, but einstein is an equally good choice. According to the question of who was the greatest genius only, and not who had the biggest impact, I would say Da Vinci.

Yeah, it's two completely different questions. Also the comments that only the scientific community fits the bill as geniuses only shows the posters ignorance.
 

Descartes

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You can't put Beethoven and not Bach. Bach is not only the most prolific composer of all time, he is largely considered to be the archetypal genius in this regard.

I don't know how you can say who is the greatest genius when considering the affluence of minds in different disciplines. Mozart was inarguably genius, but quite obviously not in the same way as Newton. Both are profoundly brilliant in their respective disciplines, and trying to compare undermines them, imo.
 

nakedfrog

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"It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein
 

Woodchuck2000

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Originally posted by: csyberblue
Who do you think made the biggest impact on the world?
It's a fallacy to say that a person's genius can only be measured in terms of the size of their legacy. I would say that Beethoven is the greatest genius out of the people listed because he was the most powerful creative figure; in my opinion He made a greater impact on music than either Einsten or Newton on physics.

Newton's laws are probably more prevalent in everyday life - the majority of the devices you use from day to day are based on Newtonian principles. This said, I think there are more people who could have made a similar contribution to physics had they been hit on the head by an apple than could do what Beethoven did for music.
 

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Originally posted by: Anubis
NEWTON
he fusking invented Calc, without that einstein wouldent have been able to do crap

well, then the guys who invented basic math, paper, and maybe the wheel must be greater geniuses, cuz without those, i bet newton couldnt have done crap either!
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Greater genius != Bigger impact on history

Agreed. Some of the most brilliant minds in history had little effect on the general course of history.(example: Stephen Hawking. While his theories are revolutionary, they have little effect on the everyday life of the average person)

Similarly, some of the most idiotic (and yet very charismatic) people in history have had a decidedly greater impact on history.
(example: Adolf Hitler. He was obviously misguided and probably not the smartest person, but his actions led to the greatest war of the twentieth century)

EDIT: Just read it again--by "greatest" I don't mean awesome.
 

electricJ

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Originally posted by: So
Newton, he gave us Calculus and Universal gravitiation, in addition to his three laws. Sure he duplicated other's work, but he deserves credit for breaking a lot of ground and unifying much.

Einstein stands almost exactly the same, IMO, except he lived in an age where science was much more proven, so Newton gets my nod.

Agree with him
 

DrPizza

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Make up your mind on the question...
Is it the greatest genius? Or greatest impact?
Genius: Da Vinci, without a doubt. Greatest Impact: undoubtedly, Newton
 

jagec

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Leibenz's calculus > Newton's calculus, but I'd still put Newton above Einstein with all the factors considered.

I'm not even going to try to compare creative to logical geniuses though, it's a foolish question. The world needs both. We are not human beings without the arts, we are not civilized without the humanities, and we are not clothed, fed, and healed without the sciences.
 

So

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Make up your mind on the question...
Is it the greatest genius? Or greatest impact?
Genius: Da Vinci, without a doubt. Greatest Impact: undoubtedly, Newton


Really, why was DaVinchi such a great genius? I mean, yes, he did, in fact, create some incredible art and come up with come cool ideas but nothing truly groundbreaking. He didn't actually impliment his weapons of war. Newton actually created the tools to do math and science that ushered in an age of prosperity unlike any seen before.
 
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