Who won the debate?

Armyranger4ever

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I think that Kerry, although still flat, beat Bush on the issues, not to mention clarity of speech.


Added the tie!
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Where's the "tie" option.

Yeah, seriously. I think to "win", Kerry had to have a "ohhh, snap" moment, and he didn't. I also think that for Bush to win, he had to bring a better argument then "Kerry is a flip flopper." This debate format sucked anyway, I'm looking forward to the next one.
 

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What you're really asking is which candidate people support, because everyone will see it through their own tainted perspective, and everyone will think their candidate won.

That said, the American people lost because we got stuck with these two knuckleheads as our only two options.
 

Goosemaster

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Simply, Bush sidestepped quite a few questions, while continually stating that Kerry change his views consistentantly.

Kerry needed to state that one can be firm and resolute and be wrong, and he said it.

Kerry won by a lot in my opinion.

Am I a repub: no

am I a dem: only on the voter registration card

what am I?

Someone who feels that Kerry's proposed approach stands up better in the ternational community( a necessity)
 

SWScorch

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they both did nothing more than repeat a few canned phrases, but Kerry raised better arguments I think and carried himself better than Dubya did.
 

spunkz

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Where's the "tie" option.

Yeah, seriously. I think to "win", Kerry had to have a "ohhh, snap" moment, and he didn't. I also think that for Bush to win, he had to bring a better argument then "Kerry is a flip flopper." This debate format sucked anyway, I'm looking forward to the next one.

what are the formats of the debates to come?
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spunkz
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Where's the "tie" option.

Yeah, seriously. I think to "win", Kerry had to have a "ohhh, snap" moment, and he didn't. I also think that for Bush to win, he had to bring a better argument then "Kerry is a flip flopper." This debate format sucked anyway, I'm looking forward to the next one.

what are the formats of the debates to come?

Townhall and another one like this one except about domestic issues.

 

element

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Bush clearly won.

Listen, Kerry says we need to build international alliances on the war on terror. Then he goes on to say he's for bi-lateral talks on North Korea instead of the president's position of multi-national talks on North Korea including China.

Kerry's flip flopping isn't going to win this war and brin gour troops home.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: element
Bush clearly won.

Listen, Kerry says we need to build international alliances on the war on terror. Then he goes on to say he's for bi-lateral talks on North Korea instead of the president's position of multi-national talks on North Korea including China.

Kerry's flip flopping isn't going to win this war and brin gour troops home.

Perhaps, but being stubborn and wrong is worse.

"Don't you know anything....in the service we are taught to choose the lesser of two weebles" -MaC
 

Kev

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Busg is a brain dead moron who can't even stick to the fcking topic or state any coherent thought without going into mindless ramblings that lack any type of substance.

For instance, when asked how he planned to defend America - this isn't an exact quote, but you get the idea: "I'm always thinking about defending america. I think about defending america every morning when i wake up. Me and the director of the cia always talk in my office about defending america. I really care about america. It's a hard job. It's hard work. But I really care. But it's hard work."

What a complete ass.
 

Armyranger4ever

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Originally posted by: element
Bush clearly won.

Listen, Kerry says we need to build international alliances on the war on terror. Then he goes on to say he's for bi-lateral talks on North Korea instead of the president's position of multi-national talks on North Korea including China.

Kerry's flip flopping isn't going to win this war and brin gour troops home.

Bush has the worst foreign policy of any president in our modern history. Look, the days of strong-arming other countries into submission are over. We have to use diplomacy to make the world safer FIRST, and use power and strength as a last resort.
 
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