There is doubt Romney cleaned Obama's clock. After reading every post I have come to this conclusion. Ones' Perception is One's reality.
How's that $500 bet coming along...
answer me this: Are PBS and NPR essential to the future prosperity, security, or economic stability of this country?does talk of cutting PBS funding, which is less than a thousandth of a percentage point of federal spending, and represents only 5% or less of PBS budget, actually work with rednecks?
do they think their candidates are serious about this, and that it will actually cut spending, and/or that it will end ebil librul socialist content? (despite PBS and NPR roundly being recognized as the best, most unbiased programming in this country)?
You have to be brainless to think that Romney will ever cut funding to PBS. utterly brainless.
Romney stated definitively last night that he would NOT cut education spending, so what was your point again?Sadly this fact is missed on a lot on the right. They don't see the correlation between a lack of education and a lack of training and a changing economy and a high unemployment rate, which is also why cutting education seems perfectly acceptable to them. They have zero foresight and zero clue on how an economy really operates (they think having a large supply of something creates demand which is why they think tax cuts for businesses cause businesses to hire people).
It was different. I won't say which one was worse because some factors favor one over the other I'll leave it to you to argue this point.the recession of 80-81 can't hold a candle to what happened in 2008-2009.
What about GDP growth? Reagan's recovery had a more than triple rate of growth that Obama has now.that being said, unemployment at the end of Reagan's term was about 2 points less than it was when he began his term, correct? ....which is about even with Obama in 4 years. just over 8% down to 6%
and with Obama: 10.5% to just over 8%, right?
I've been able to manage perception into reality to make a shit ton of money, business is all one big game of perception. 500 bucks is nothing to me.
Looks like Romney understands this truth as well as he was perceived as a leader and much more presidential than obama. I don't think you realize just how bad obama was.
answer me this: Are PBS and NPR essential to the future prosperity, security, or economic stability of this country?
If the answer is NO (and it most certainly is), then f'n dismantle it, STFU, and move on to the next program on the list.
Do that until we're down to the essentials while simultaneously getting rid of tax breaks and making % cuts across every department in the Government.
Anything short of the above and I'll have to say we're totally and royally fucked.
Do you agree our economy needs help? Do you agree that raising taxes at least has the potential to slow growth? Just a shred of a possibility? If raising taxes won't help the economy then why do it? We need a thriving economy and if raising taxes won't help it and may even harm it then why do it?In which of my posts did I say tax increases grew the economy?
I think an argument can be made that PBS and NPR both serve the national interests and foster prosperity.
It's a shame you don't see their value.
Oh I think I do... as I have stated repeatedly I did not and will not ever vote for Obama. He was terrible and his usual ineffectual self last night. It certainly doesn't mean Romney is going to win or that your wallet is going to get any lighter if you in fact did take up (can't remember who now) on that $500 bet...
I am so fucking right wing I don't care who is running against obama I would vote for anyone other than him.
I don't care about any of the facts that you have. Half of them come from privately conducted studies which are all biased.
There is nothing any of you can say or do that will ever change my position.
Get over it.
I didn't say that I do not see their "value," or ANY value, rather. In fact, I happen to like and appreciate both!I think an argument can be made that PBS and NPR both serve the national interests and foster prosperity.
It's a shame you don't see their value.
Terms are 2012 US Presidential Election. 500 dollars to me from you if Romney wins, 500 dollars from me to you if Obama wins.
It is a bet if you accept these straight forward terms.
Accepted!
I'd also accept a bet under these terms if you wish to extend it.
I think an argument can be made that PBS and NPR both serve the national interests and foster prosperity.
It's a shame you don't see their value.
TBH the $5 trillion has merit. Obviously that's just the reduction in revenue Romney is proposing and not indicating how he will pay for it. It can be less depending on which deductions he chooses to eliminate, and how he "broadens" the tax base. Had Obama been more clear on what the $5 trillion was and been more knowledgeable about Romney's tax plan (which does exist BTW, it's on his website), he could've slammed him on certain points.My son had a class requirement to watch and write a report immediately after. In coming and going I noticed he got annoyed with Obama for repeatedly bringing up the the $5 trillion tax number.
Perknose, Ausm, First
The greatest wisdom can achieve is fully understanding that perception does equal reality. Romney's stellar performance, the way he carried himself, his body language, his confidence was amazing. That's a leader.
Contrast that with the beaten dog obama. A lot of minds were made last night on who they will vote for, and it wasn't Obama.
I mistakenly said "Obama" in the poll (perhaps wishful thinking ) when I think Romney did a much better job in the debate. But here's the thing, *I* think that and it didn't change my mind about voting...and I don't think I'm alone. I honestly don't think a lot of minds were made up because most minds were already made up going into the debate. Romney did a good job in his presentation, but his facts were pretty weak. I'm not going to vote for him just because he put on a good show any more than I'd be more likely to vote for Obama if HIS song and dance hadn't been so terrible.
I suspect Romney will get a bounce in the polls as a result of the debate, but I think you're overestimating the impact...and overestimating how likely the bounce is to carry, unaltered, a month from now.