I think the Romney strategy worked well - keep trying to say that certain issues should be decided by the states, and avoid as many real answers as possible; just attack what's happened over the past 4 years, often using dubious figures. On the issue of government regulations - rather than saying what I believe he wants - fewer regulations, he basically said "regulations are good. Some need to be eliminated, we need some new ones, and some are outdated." No shit, Romney. Now, answer the question.
B) Die hard democrat who refuses to admit Mitt Romney won a debate, which is silly because who can honestly say this will have much of an impact on anything?
Romney won the debate on style, not on facts. In fact he played extremely fast and loose with them again like he has all campaign.
The question is did he move swing voters and Obama voters into his camp with one debate performance? Probably not, most people have their minds made up at this point. Any undecideds left will want to see the rest of the debates where Obama will do much better.
Net result, race tightens up a few pts but Obama still leads.
Option C is they are letting their bias cloud their judgement. The poll results show us how few Democrats in this forum actually do that though.Well considering this site/forums has a bigger democratic audiance than republican.
The fact that Mitt Romney got so many votes in this poll, as to who won the debate. makes me think It shows he did in fact outperform Obama.
Now the people who voted for Obama either
A) Didn't watch it and is a democrat
B) Die hard democrat who refuses to admit Mitt Romney won a debate, which is silly because who can honestly say this will have much of an impact on anything?
It has a tremendous impact imo. It isn't so much that Romney won the debate. It's that he managed to completely upstage Obama and display a level of intellect, leadership and capability that "Obumma" could not hope to match.
Romney was oozing all of the charismatic and psychological qualities we associate with strong and capable leaders, while Obama looked like a weak wilting flower in comparison..
An event like this can make voters change their minds, because it creates a lot of doubt in the President's abilities to steer the country in the right direction..
Personally, I'm not surprised in the least. Obama does not have anywhere near the accomplishments and experience of a man like Mitt Romney..
Option C is they are letting their bias cloud their judgement. The poll results show us how few Democrats in this forum actually do that though.
I think you vastly overestimate the number of Republicans that would admit it if Obama actually did do much better than Romney. Look at all the blowhards already in this thread who think Romney actually won based on merits rather than appearance.Right. You commented though how the poll would have looked if obama was a clear winner. I am saying the poll would look similar, just switch obamaa and romney, simply because there is many more democrats on this forum than republicans.
Add in some republicans on here would admit obama winning the debate if he did. And it would look very similar.
a leader backed with fact.
Option C is they are letting their bias cloud their judgement. The poll results show us how few Democrats in this forum actually do that though.
So, when are you and Romney getting married?
I have to assume that the majority of the "nobody won" votes came from our resident "both candidates are the same" independent "thinkers."I dunno, looking at the options, and the votes. I don't get why people dillute polls with frivolous options that make it hard to gauage things.
One can argue 40% of people didn't think Romney won the debate. It's true, look at the poll.
When you don't want to admit your candidate loss, picking "no one won" or the other two fluff options, you aren't being directly honest, now are you?
Biases aside, given how the debates went last night, do you really doubt what I said?
Romney did one very important thing last night; he managed to PRESENT himself as being a lot more Presidential than the President.
Presentation is key folks.. In times of difficulty, people look to men with alpha male qualities, rather than those that appear weak and confused as Obama did that night.
I thought I read somewhere last night that obummer actually had 4 minutes more talking time than Romney did during the debate. Lehrer didn't do a very good job staying in control of the debate, he let both the candidates push him around.
I doubt the importance and significance of the debate. The percentage of people who are likely to vote and say the debate won't change how they vote is very, very high.
To me the debate is more about projecting a presidential image, being able to think quickly and remain composed under pressue and to communicate at high level what philosophies they will apply to the office. Facts are so distorted and questionable I pretty much consider fact-checking either side's story a waste of time, assume bullshit on all fronts and you won't be surprised. Romney clearly showed he was in command, was able to deliver his message clearly and quickly respond to everything came at him with, often with his own counter-jabs that set Obama on heel. Romney remained consistently strong and energetic throughout while Obama seemed to ebb and flow.
Yes, Obama has never won any debates before. Nope, never spoken off the cuff either.I think it was a good opportunity for people to see the real Obama, out from behind his handlers and media smokescreen, real and un edited. Do you think it's any different when he's off-script/off-camera dealing with other foreign leaders, etc? Obama wasn't off his game, he was himself.
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I think you vastly overestimate the number of Republicans that would admit it if Obama actually did do much better than Romney. Look at all the blowhards already in this thread who think Romney actually won based on merits rather than appearance.
Yes, Obama has never won any debates before. Nope, never spoken off the cuff either.
"Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started," Gore said. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know, maybe the change in altitude..."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/al-g...tude-romney-wins-denver-2012-10#ixzz28LU5el00
Exactly.Yeah, and it's funny how in the "liberal biased media," even MSN, literally every single pundit I saw, and I listened to many across different channels, declared Romney the winner. Yet in 2008, when the general public thought Obama won his debates with McCain, Fox News pundits said McCain won it. That should tell us something right there about who is biased.
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