*** Who Won the Second Presidential Debate? ***

[Jaskalas]

Yes, stop all legislation that spends money. Brilliant. Totally brilliant. Then blame the President when nothing gets done. Only a fool would think this is good leadership.

I love that thought process. We attack the President on jobs.. while fighting spending.. I mean jobs. Isn't that how it goes, you equate jobs to government spending? The two define each other now.

That is why we are irreconcilable. This is a war on spending, but spending defines you. So you also take it personally. After all, the stakes couldn't be higher, you must think we're destroying the country as much as we think we are.

Stalemate in the federal government is desired. Their dysfunction will force states to rise up and solve their own problems. Liberty is strengthened by diversity, as I want to see fostered by our states. The less the feds do, the better.

 

[dali71]

201 > 191. So that still doesn't show a Romney lead. At best you could say Romney is leading the popular vote, but that's irrelevant since that isn't how we elect presidents.

So your point is that Obama is...leading in the polls.

And remember folks, popular votes don't win elections, electoral votes do. Every electoral vote map from every site shows Obama up.

Let me just put this here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html


Let the spin begin! :biggrin:

 

[Jhhnn]

It's the same plan that got us where we are today, the perpetual pitch of the Repubs-

http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/romney-will-solve-crisis-exact-same-gop-plan-2008-2006-2004

It's the party of ideas, perpetually bad ideas that haven't changed since the 1920's... Same whore, different dress, different lipstick, with some botox to freshen her up...

No it isn't/

This is where I point out that denial isn't an argument- it's just denial.

 

[First]

Let me just put this here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html


Let the spin begin! :biggrin:

lol troll.

 

[umbrella39]

lol troll.

Those toss ups are a hoot...

 

[jpeyton]

Let me just put this here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html


Let the spin begin! :biggrin:

There are 538 electoral votes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ctions_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

294 + 244 = 538

Thanks for playing

 

[shadow9d9]

/this

that is one reason i had my doubts about obama the first time. i didn't see how would be possible to go from what it was (while it was getting better it fucking sucked) to what he claimed he would do. i am not suprised we are are where we are. The president really has little control over such stuff. they can marginally effect it but its more the company's that do. witch we found with the housing, energy etc..

over all i won't say Obama has been a bad president. but he aslo has not been what others claim (for bad or good)

Record breaking fillibusters.

 

[shadow9d9]

yeha but that tactic goes both ways. GOP and Dems need stop the silly bullshit. The win at any cost attitude is killing the US. Far to many (even on the boards) would do anything to fuck over the other party.

Umm, no it doesn't. RECORD BREAKING fillibusters. Both sides are NOT equally bad. Stop repeating this nonsense. They aren't even CLOSE to equal.

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/gop-wins-filibuster-gold-medal

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/111th-senate-breaks-one-filibuster-record.php

http://www.ourfuture.org/fact-sheets-briefs/record-breaking-republican-obstructionism

 

[sportage]

Why is Romney doing so badly?
Not that I want it any other way, but in all of these non official national polls, like this poll on anandtech and every such poll I've seen since, Romney is doing just awful.
And now with the polling of the early voters, those stats also show Obama leading Romney by a massive 35%.
Obama is wiping up the floor with Mitt Romney in poll after poll after poll.
One could claim early voters are mostly democrats. Or early voters are more energized.
But I seriously doubt that. I doubt that only democrats take advantage of early voting.

All the polls, other than the news organization polls we see on the news shows, all those other sources of polling as well as anandtech reflect what has been consistent with Mitt Romney in the past. That Ronmey has seldom broken thru that 35% ceiling.

In my state, republicans are pushing early voting hard.
Especially targeting their base, naturally.
And polling of these early voters where the campaign is now over, all those polls still show Romney losing to Obama by huge margins.

This is worth watching....

 

[shadow9d9]

Why is Romney doing so badly?
Not that I want it any other way, but in all of these non official national polls, like this poll on anandtech and every such poll I've seen since, Romney is doing just awful.
And now with the polling of the early voters, those stats also show Obama leading Romney by a massive 35%.
Obama is wiping up the floor with Mitt Romney in poll after poll after poll.
One could claim early voters are mostly democrats. Or early voters are more energized.
But I seriously doubt that. I doubt that only democrats take advantage of early voting.

All the polls, other than the news organization polls we see on the news shows, all those other sources of polling as well as anandtech reflect what has been consistent with Mitt Romney in the past. That Ronmey has seldom broken thru that 35% ceiling.

In my state, republicans are pushing early voting hard.
Especially targeting their base, naturally.
And polling of these early voters where the campaign is now over, all those polls still show Romney losing to Obama by huge margins.

This is worth watching....

Romney is doing much better than he was 3 weeks ago. The bullying and lying in the first debate served him well.

 

[monovillage]

Romney is doing much better than he was 3 weeks ago. The bullying and lying in the first debate served him well.

lol, he bullied the president? Ohh that big meanie!

Didum somebody talk mean mean to baby Bama? awwww poor baby.

 

[buckshot24]

lol, he bullied the president? Ohh that big meanie!

Didum somebody talk mean mean to baby Bama? awwww poor baby.

It's unconstitutional too!

 

[shadow9d9]

lol, he bullied the president? Ohh that big meanie!

Didum somebody talk mean mean to baby Bama? awwww poor baby.

Umm, no... He bullied the moderator...

Looks like I didn't respond in time to catch the circle jerk of your ridiculous comment too. It like totally doubled the validity!

Noticed how he skipped riiight over the "lying" part! Deflection and cherry picking. Brilliant.

 

[monovillage]

Umm, no... He bullied the moderator...

Looks like I didn't respond in time to catch the circle jerk of your ridiculous comment too. It like totally doubled the validity!

Noticed how he skipped riiight over the "lying" part! Deflection and cherry picking. Brilliant.

If you had bothered to check some of the fact checks after the debate you would have seen that Obama did more than his share of the lying.

 

[Screech]

No matter who wins, the truth loses...

 

[Sephire]

err why is Romnie leading the Gallup?

 

[trenchfoot]

err why is Romnie leading the Gallup?

Because Obama is leading in all the rest of them?

 

[cybrsage]

Obama won this one, but that is because it is hard to debate both the moderator and the other candidate at the same time. The two person debate team of Obama-moderator was tough to beat. I hope King is not squarely in Obama's pocket in the next debate.

 

[cybrsage]

Romney is doing much better than he was 3 weeks ago. The bullying and lying in the first debate served him well.

Was Obama actually at the first debate? I watched some of it and I only say Romney and the moderator...and a cardboard cutout of Obama...

 

[randomrogue]

Obama won this one, but that is because it is hard to debate both the moderator and the other candidate at the same time. The two person debate team of Obama-moderator was tough to beat. I hope King is not squarely in Obama's pocket in the next debate.

Bob Schieffer of CBS News is the moderator. You're thinking of the 3rd party debate.

 

[buckshot24]

Bob Schieffer of CBS News is the moderator. You're thinking of the 3rd party debate.

I think Schieffer will do a good job moderating.

 

[cybrsage]

Bob Schieffer of CBS News is the moderator. You're thinking of the 3rd party debate.

Oh, my bad.

I did a search on Bob and bias and found many claims of him being both liberal and conservative biased. That means he might be a good moderator. Here is to hoping.