*** Who Won the Second Presidential Debate? ***

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Andrew111

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Aug 6, 2001
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Christ - you must be one of the idiots who were against the president with the manufactured "you didn't build that" controversy.

Of course he was fucking taking about this attack - you're a complete fool and partisan hack if you think otherwise. Context, Context, Context - how many times do we have to beat this grade school drum to get it through your thick skull?

His administration was still spinning it like it was a spontaneous revolt due to that video....not a PLANNED terrorist attack by a terrorist organization. Command and control hugely in question on the Libya attack...took WAY TOO LONG to get the true answer that it was a planned attack.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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Christ - you must be one of the idiots who were against the president with the manufactured "you didn't build that" controversy.

Of course he was fucking taking about this attack - you're a complete fool and partisan hack if you think otherwise. Context, Context, Context - how many times do we have to beat this grade school drum to get it through your thick skull?

No, I guess you misunderstood. It was a question, hence the question mark.
 

Charles Kozierok

Elite Member
May 14, 2012
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This will be a useful thread for those of us curious about how many right-wingers utterly detached from reality inhabit this board.
 

monovillage

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2008
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As the debate went on, if you watched audience while Romney talked, you could see them tuning out.

And right after debate closed, Obama immediately went to engage audience, while Romney was standing alone till his family surrounded him to make it not so obvious he was just standing there all by himself.

After the debate ended, watch how many audience members came up to Obama to shake his hand or get an autograph, then a few Romney supporters figured out they have to throw out a lifeline and do same for him.

But even them, you could see vast difference in size of crowd around Obama vs. Romney...

Pretty hilarious that you seem to think that a debate that is packed full with Obama supporters is proof of an Obama win.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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No, I guess you misunderstood. It was a question, hence the question mark.

My point: it was a stupid question for you to ask in the first place. Your question clearly alluded that you doubted the words that were right in your face. The transcript clearly says that he believed this to be an act of terror, anyone with a decent and honest grasp on the English language could plainly see it.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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You must excuse his rage. Sometimes it gets the better of him.

Well Romney could have handled that whole portion alot better, he should of let this go, and go back to the question that obama avoided answering regarding not acting on the demands for increased security.
 

CptObvious

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Mar 5, 2004
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I voted Obama. For the first 15 minutes of the debate, I was thinking Romney was dominating Obama again, with Obama giving mostly rambling, non-responsive answers. However, Obama took over the debate starting with his answers to social issues (gender equality, immigration reform, assault weapons) and Romney absolutely BURNED himself trying to torch Obama on Libya. Obama already said he took ultimate responsibility for what happened and Romney thought he could squeeze a little more mileage out of it, but he just got petty and was called out on it badly.

Overall Obama did a lot better in this debate (he finally grew some balls to call Romney out) although some of his answers are too canned; Romney had a very solid first half but just ran out of gas towards the end. If Romney wants to win the last debate he needs to lay off the petty bullshit and stick to the main points. If Obama wants to win the last debate, he needs to take more of the "Fuck You" attitude he showed to Romney on the Libya question and not let him walk all over him.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Maybe 65/35 for Obama. Not as strong as the Romney win in the first debate. But being the last debate on domestic policy, it may be the more important win. I'm not sure anyone cares about foreign policy this month.
 

monovillage

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2008
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This will be a useful thread for those of us curious about how many right-wingers utterly detached from reality inhabit this board.

And anyone that doesn't agree with your assessment is obviously "right-wingers utterly detached" from your reality?
 

Andrew111

Senior member
Aug 6, 2001
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My point: it was a stupid question for you to ask in the first place. The transcript clearly says that he believed this to be an act of terror, anyone with a decent and honest grasp on the English language could plainly see it.

But you also know it's disingenuous....the administration clearly failed on getting to the bottom of what happened in a timely manner. And you know Obama didn't even answer the question....
 

xBiffx

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2011
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Well Romney could have handled that whole portion alot better, he should of let this go, and go back to the question that obama avoided answering regarding not acting on the demands for increased security.

They both missed opportunities to attack and dominate while the other side avoided. But yes, this is just one of Romney's missed approaches.
 

Andrew111

Senior member
Aug 6, 2001
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Clearly people on the left think the Libya issue was a point for Obama....but the people know the circumstances involved. When he gave that speech in the Rose Garden, he should have known what had happened by that time. He did not...either truly didn't know (HUGE INTEL/command and control issue) or was being dishonest.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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What is self deportation and why did Romney say no to that question?
 

Zorkorist

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2007
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I'm embarressed by our current president.

Didin't vote for him and find him ludicrous.

-John
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Should I bother looking at Fox New's assessment? You KNOW what they'll say
 

xBiffx

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2011
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What is self deportation and why did Romney say no to that question?

Illegal immigrants voluntarily leaving the country and returning to their country of origin.

I missed the no answer. If it was a no, it must have been the only straight up yes/no answer by either side tonight.
 
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