*** Who Won the Second Presidential Debate? ***

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DominionSeraph

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Holy moley - how do people watch either of these channels? Their biases are insane.

I like Fox News. Because everything they say is a specifically constructed lie, once you reverse the spin they're actually a good source of information.
It's a shame conservatards lack the intelligence to be able to replicate this feat.
 

Ryan

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Oct 31, 2000
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MO matter what you say . This was in that transcript

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts

Obummer got lucky and used the terror word Big deal in the context of where we stand on terrorism . The above was also in their . This was about degrading their religious prophet .

You've convinced me that you are lacking the basic English skills to participate in this argument, let alone understand the words you're reading.
 

Andrew111

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Does it really matter what the WH said at the time of the attack on the American embassy in Libya??? Who cares whether it was a terrorist attack... or a mob attack.. Americans died and the instigators must be brought to justice.

I am sure during the chaos of that night, and the fact that the youtube video was widely seen that same day, people would assume the attack was due to the video, not an attack by militants (or perhaps the militants attacked during a protest)

In the end, it doesn't matter what the root cause of the attack was - we have better things to worry about than the semantic of the origination of the attack.

WHAT?????? The commander in chief shouldn't know what happened????? What an asinine thing to say. The fact of the matter is that it TOOK TOO LONG for the real story to come out. And I want to see some damn accountability...whoever denied security in Libya should be sacked. European embassies/consulates have marines...but LIBYA DOESN'T??? And diplomats feared for their security, asked for help, and it was denied. Who denied it???? Add 1 (or more) to the unemployment line.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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The truth often does that to people that are in denial.

The truth that you are a shit and run cry baby? Yeah, you were pegged as one years ago and the fact that you haven't caught on by now let's us know that it's not just another river in Africa. You are clearly in denial... Your Obama kicked Romney's ass tonight. Everyone knows this.

ecoKOOK the fuck back under whatever bridge you call home...
 

JKing106

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I like Fox News. Because everything they say is a specifically constructed lie, once you reverse the spin they're actually a good source of information.
It's a shame conservatards lack the intelligence to be able to replicate this feat.

+1
 

Screech

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Oct 20, 2004
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My opinion of people who thought romney won here is about the same as those who thought obama won the first debate........perhaps you are taking too many meds?
 

Zorkorist

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Apr 17, 2007
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Thank God there is a two party system.

Can you imagine Obama jacking off?

-John
 

Lithium381

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i think obama won on presentation but failed on facts. well they both failed on a lot of facts but obama just flat out lied......
but voted obama anyway
 

Zorkorist

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Apr 17, 2007
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They both failed...

It's Romnsey's turn... because Obama has only hurt us.

-John
 

Nemesis 1

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As I said the teror word when obummer used it was not in the contect of the event in question . The part i pointed out was / Here is that whole paragraph

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.
 

Nemesis 1

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You've convinced me that you are lacking the basic English skills to participate in this argument, let alone understand the words you're reading.

Break down the article into sections lets really look at who is full of shit here . You all profess to being english majors . lets break down the article into context . Lets see what shit for brains really said. Obummer at this time has already evoked 9/11
 
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Ryan

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WHAT?????? The commander in chief shouldn't know what happened????? What an asinine thing to say. The fact of the matter is that it TOOK TOO LONG for the real story to come out. And I want to see some damn accountability...whoever denied security in Libya should be sacked. European embassies/consulates have marines...but LIBYA DOESN'T??? And diplomats feared for their security, asked for help, and it was denied. Who denied it???? Add 1 (or more) to the unemployment line.

House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012....Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.

Ryan, Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...9a411c-1258-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html
 
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Zorkorist

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Nemisis,, while what you say is SO STRONG, lets also not forget that America is what it is because it doesnt allow Government to restrict it in any way.

Freedom.

-John
 

Fritzo

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Break down the article into sections lets really look at who is full of shit here . You all profess to being english majors . lets break down the article into context . Lets see what shit for brains really said.
......aaand, as usual, it breaks down into this: the exact reason I seldom post in P&N.
 

Ryan

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Break down the article into sections lets really look at who is full of shit here . You all profess to being english majors . lets break down the article into context . Lets see what shit for brains really said.

You are destroying all context when you refuse to consider the speech in it's entirety. I'm not claiming to be an English major, but I certainly have a grasp on the level of English required for the average American to be graduated through grade school.
 
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PJABBER

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Romney won. He may not have buried Obama as he did in the first debate but his points were damning. That he hammered on the economy made him more on point with what matters.

Crowley should have STFU with her interruptions and let Romney respond to the unfounded statements being made by Obama. She gave Obama 9% more time to speak, even more than the other Obama apologist moderators. At least she said after the debate that she was wrong about what Obama said about Benghazi - she will be remembered for her partisan error.

Obama was definitely more engaged than before, but he came across as less than presidential.

I score it 6-4 in favor of Romney. Look for his small but significant lead to continue until the next debate.
 

Andrew111

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This poll is retarded by the way....Obama did a little better than Romney but it was a draw...not a clear victory for either. CNN poll verifies that. Making Libya so prominent does not make Obama look good...because what happened? He didn't answer the question asked in the debata...and it reminds people that it took way too long to get the truth about the attack.
 

JEDIYoda

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Romney. Not because of what he said but simply because Obama didn't deliver. They both seems OK with flinging horseshit back and forth while everything smells like BS.

I blame a lot of the BS on the format and the moderator.

Romney just wins by default because this debate didn't change anything. Basically, tie goes to the challenger. Perhaps the next one will actually change something.
I just love it when people are in denial...hahahaaa
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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The truth that you are a shit and run cry baby? Yeah, you were pegged as one years ago and the fact that you haven't caught on by now let's us know that it's not just another river in Africa. You are clearly in denial... Your Obama kicked Romney's ass tonight. Everyone knows this.

ecoKOOK the fuck back under whatever bridge you call home...


..good to hear I got all that acid churning in your gut. Stomach lining burn thru any day now.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Romney won. He may not have buried Obama as he did in the first debate but his points were damning. That he hammered on the economy made him more on point with what matters.

Crowley should have STFU with her interruptions and let Romney respond to the unfounded statements being made by Obama. She gave Obama 9% more time to speak, even more than the other Obama apologist moderators. At least she said after the debate that she was wrong about what Obama said about Benghazi - she will be remembered for her partisan error.

Obama was definitely more engaged than before, but he came across as less than presidential.

I score it 6-4 in favor of Romney. Look for his small but significant lead to continue until the next debate.

How are things on your planet? Was the reception from Earth not so clear for you?
 

umbrella39

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My opinion of people who thought romney won here is about the same as those who thought obama won the first debate........perhaps you are taking too many meds?

100% this. Kind of pisses me off but I have come to expect it. Discourse is dead here when one side continues to ignore the truth and reality. Obama clearly had his ass handed to him the first debate. Most liberals readily admitted it. This is the only time you will ever see agreement here. Both sides will only agree when liberals are conceding something. Pretty sad.

After reading some of the replies about who won, I wonder just how quickly some of the Romtards must have had FoxNews back on their screens to get their dose of infused sunshine and bullshit to make that buttsore stop stinging. They can't be honest and never go off script. There are only a handful of genuine conservatives even posting here any more. The rest are just a couple of hands in an ever growing sock drawer it would seem...
 

Andrew111

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What's your point????? Any cuts to embassy security SHOULD have been made in WESTERN EUROPE, AUSTRALIA...SAFE COUNTRIES. Not in recently liberated Libya....coming off a civil war with terrorist organizations known to operate there and given arms. JESUS CHRIST...common sense dictates the cuts fall elsewhere. Quote the budget cuts all you want...I've been to Italy's American embassy....they should be eliminating waste there and don't need as much security as other places, lol.
 
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