who would've been a better republican candidate than Romney?

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trenchfoot

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Palin and Bachmann are better candidates for the Repubs in the sense that they represent the true conservative intellect, sentiments and values that I hear touted all the time on FOX, Limbaugh's show, Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin's writings, OReilly's commentary, AM conservative talk shows, etc. They all say the exact same things that Palin and Bachmann persistently and insistently claim they believe in and represent.

To fill out their cabinet and staff postings, all Palin and Bachmann have to do is appoint every billionaire, special interest group, lobbyist and Super Pac benefactor that financed their push for elective office.

And there you go, exactly what the Repubs wanted and got from 2000-2008.
 

OrByte

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Remember a few months ago during the GOP debate when the contenders were asked if they would accept a deal that involved 10 dollars in spending cuts for 1 dollar in tax increases?

Who was it that said they would do it?
 

a777pilot

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Remember a few months ago during the GOP debate when the contenders were asked if they would accept a deal that involved 10 dollars in spending cuts for 1 dollar in tax increases?

Who was it that said they would do it?

I believe they ALL said no to that proposal. Can't blame them. Those two things, spending cuts and tax increases, should never be joined together.

Cut spending first. I mean real cutes, not just cutes in proposed increases. Then we can talk about a possible tax increase, or tax reform.
 

blankslate

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Perry flubbed it pretty badly, but he seems a lot more thoughtful than Romney, and comes off as a better person--or at least as a decent politician who can interact with a variety of people on a normal, natural level without coming off as insensitive or insulting. My favorite "odd" debate moment was Romney extending his hand for a $10,000 wager over some fact or figure. Perry's look at that moment said "WTF, are you fucking crazy?" That was just... weird. (Especially coming from a supposedly devout Mormon.)

I think you're right about his ability to be less socially obtuse than Governor Romney. I think anyone on pain medication for back surgery could have made the same flubs as Governor Perry did.

Republicans need a moderate voice - I think Jeb Bush would have been a better candidate.

The strategy is probably for him to run in 2016 which could be why he risked the ire of Grover Norquist at least once.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/76962.html

So that he could seem to be more reasonable and thus more mainstream than republicans who have signed on to the pledge dreamed up by that d!ps@!t hack.
 

Jhhnn

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I believe they ALL said no to that proposal. Can't blame them. Those two things, spending cuts and tax increases, should never be joined together.

Cut spending first. I mean real cutes, not just cutes in proposed increases. Then we can talk about a possible tax increase, or tax reform.

Of course, you never objected when Dubya cut taxes & went to war, twice, even when it was obvious that deficits would increase. The national debt doubled under his watchful eye, didn't it?

That's the Repub version of fiscal responsibility, which is none at all.

Per Dick Cheney, "deficits don't matter."

Except when Repubs are out of power in the midst of the greatest economic depression since the big one, and then deficits are akin to baby-raping, and raising taxes on the rich would be like the invasion of Poland & the Holocaust...

Where were all these Repub budget hawks when they controlled the Executive and Legislative branches from 2003 thru 2007?

IIRC, they were singing "Happy Days Are Here Again!" & spending like drunken sailors...
 

Jhhnn

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The best Repub candidate? Uhh, er, hmmmm.... You know, errr, well, uhh, that *is* a good question, isn't it?

I like Stephen Colbert's pick- Rick Parry, the ideal Repub candidate who doesn't exist, the embodiment of all they hold dear. Once all the self contradictory faith is removed, there's unfortunately nothing left, so nobody can be that guy. But he'd be perfect, really.
 
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The best Repub candidate? Uhh, er, hmmmm.... You know, errr, well, uhh, that *is* a good question, isn't it?

I like Stephen Colbert's pick- Rick Parry, the ideal Repub candidate who doesn't exist, the embodiment of all they hold dear. Once all the self contradictory faith is removed, there's unfortunately nothing left, so nobody can be that guy. But he'd be perfect, really.

Typical leftist, Ron Paul would have been a better candidate and could fix the country unlike barky and willard
 

Jhhnn

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Typical leftist, Ron Paul would have been a better candidate and could fix the country unlike barky and willard

Yes, Ron Paul can walk on water & turn water to wine. He's really the second coming of Christ, but nobody except the vapor brained Paulbots have figured that out.

Maybe they'll just off themselves the day he dies so they can all ascend through the pearly gates together...

Maybe Repubs could rally behind a ticket with Ron Paul! & Sarah! It's a match made in Heaven, I tell ya, a real dream team, a sure winner!
 

zanejohnson

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Paul would have gotten my vote and i'm a decided obama voter.


i hope you read this little spies in the big media who use this site as a source
 

a777pilot

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Of course, you never objected when Dubya cut taxes & went to war, twice, even when it was obvious that deficits would increase. The national debt doubled under his watchful eye, didn't it?

That's the Repub version of fiscal responsibility, which is none at all.

Per Dick Cheney, "deficits don't matter."

Except when Repubs are out of power in the midst of the greatest economic depression since the big one, and then deficits are akin to baby-raping, and raising taxes on the rich would be like the invasion of Poland & the Holocaust...

Where were all these Repub budget hawks when they controlled the Executive and Legislative branches from 2003 thru 2007?

IIRC, they were singing "Happy Days Are Here Again!" & spending like drunken sailors...

Actually the debt did NOT double, but it did go up markedly. Not nearly as high or as fast as the debt under obama, but it did go up way too much.

Bush(43) made the very same mistake that LBJ made. They both tried to have both "guns" and "butter" at the same time. Sorry, it can't be done.


Where were all these Repub budget hawks when they controlled the Executive and Legislative branches from 2003 thru 2007?

Outstanding question. I wish I had an answer but I don't. They, the Republican so called fiscal hawks, were missing in action.
 

Jhhnn

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Actually the debt did NOT double, but it did go up markedly. Not nearly as high or as fast as the debt under obama, but it did go up way too much.

Bush(43) made the very same mistake that LBJ made. They both tried to have both "guns" and "butter" at the same time. Sorry, it can't be done.

The national debt stood at $5.8T on 9/30/01, the end of the last budget Clinton signed. It stood at $11.9T on 9/30/09, the end of the last Bush budget. That's double.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

Similar results can be found for what I offered about RR/GHWB expenditures at that official site.


Outstanding question. I wish I had an answer but I don't. They, the Republican so called fiscal hawks, were missing in action.

They weren't MIA, at all, but rather pouring gravy down the greedy gullets of the true Bush constituency so fast they could barely swallow it. They could do a triple Lutz, and their followers would somehow mange to keep their noses in the buttcracks of their leaders quite effortlessly, because they *believe* in whatever they're told at the time, and have the memory span of fruitflies.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
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Outstanding question. I wish I had an answer but I don't. They, the Republican so called fiscal hawks, were missing in action.

Republicans are only "fiscal hawks" when they are trying to get elected. Once they are in office they do what most every politician does, whatever is easiest.
 

sactoking

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Normally I'd say "anybody" would be a better candidate than Romney, but then I look at who was in the primary with him and realize he was the best one in that steaming pile of shit group.
 
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Yes, Ron Paul can walk on water & turn water to wine. He's really the second coming of Christ, but nobody except the vapor brained Paulbots have figured that out.

Maybe they'll just off themselves the day he dies so they can all ascend through the pearly gates together...

Maybe Repubs could rally behind a ticket with Ron Paul! & Sarah! It's a match made in Heaven, I tell ya, a real dream team, a sure winner!

And even more hysteria from leftists
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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A fire hydrant. Truely red, you know where it stands and more intellectual power than 90% of this year's class of candidates.

Now if only the GOP could solve the dog problem, they'd be set.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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A fire hydrant. Truely red, you know where it stands and more intellectual power than 90% of this year's class of candidates.

Now if only the GOP could solve the dog problem, they'd be set.

dog problem?
OHHHH, yeah, I forgot about that.
Truthfully none of the dogs in my neighborhood use a hydrant.
They all prefer my moms azaelias.
 

Doppel

Lifer
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Dr. Paul of course!!! Gold standard, remove department of education, EPA, everything. It all goes, fire sale it all.

Actually, the entire line up would be hilarious if it weren't such a serious matter.

Cain's 9/9/9. It's so simple it HAS to work!
 
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