Whoever interested in.......... Magellan 3225 GPS

[imported_Dunnomuch]

Originally posted by: BenJeremy
The problem is that the RoadMate 1200 can't use it's maps on a generic card, and they are stored on a pre-loaded, protects 1GB card. There isn't enough space left on the card to add the larger POI database, and you can't move the maps to a different card because of the protection.

There isn't enough internal memory (only 64MB with 30MB free) to use the maps internally, either.

As far as the method for using the POI db on the 3100 series, that's different because you can apparently move stuff around and the main map data is stored internally.

At this point, I'd be content to be able to load my own POI data, and customize the existing databases. At least with that, I could load a big subset for the areas that interest me (i.e. a big database for southern California when I travel to San Diego).

The best solution is if I can get Magellan to give me the POI database details so I can create a nice tool for RoadMate users to do exactly that.

Sounds like the 1200 is a dud! It isn't any cheaper than the 3100 but with significantly more limitations. Why bother? It's also too close in price to the 3225 (when on sale for $180).

But anyway...is there a way to determine if it is something simple like volume label that it is looking for on the SD or is it a proprietary formatting technique or something more complicated. Can the 1200 utilize a custom POI file? If so there is a free program called POI Harvester that is easy to use and pretty impressive.

I'm guessing the 1200 does not come with Magellan's POI Editor though and I do not they make it available as a download.

 

[BenJeremy]

Originally posted by: Dunnomuch

Originally posted by: BenJeremy
The problem is that the RoadMate 1200 can't use it's maps on a generic card, and they are stored on a pre-loaded, protects 1GB card. There isn't enough space left on the card to add the larger POI database, and you can't move the maps to a different card because of the protection.

There isn't enough internal memory (only 64MB with 30MB free) to use the maps internally, either.

As far as the method for using the POI db on the 3100 series, that's different because you can apparently move stuff around and the main map data is stored internally.

At this point, I'd be content to be able to load my own POI data, and customize the existing databases. At least with that, I could load a big subset for the areas that interest me (i.e. a big database for southern California when I travel to San Diego).

The best solution is if I can get Magellan to give me the POI database details so I can create a nice tool for RoadMate users to do exactly that.

Sounds like the 1200 is a dud! It isn't any cheaper than the 3100 but with significantly more limitations. Why bother? It's also too close in price to the 3225 (when on sale for $180).

But anyway...is there a way to determine if it is something simple like volume label that it is looking for on the SD or is it a proprietary formatting technique or something more complicated. Can the 1200 utilize a custom POI file? If so there is a free program called POI Harvester that is easy to use and pretty impressive.

I'm guessing the 1200 does not come with Magellan's POI Editor though and I do not they make it available as a download.

Well, I got mine for $124, so it was significantly less expensive... as for the editors, I will look into that. Internally, there is a "CPOI" directory, so I assume that it will handle custom POI databases.

There may even be a way around the "protection" - particularly if it's something as simple as modifying a sector on the SD flash card. I haven't dug that much into it yet.

 

[imported_Dunnomuch]

Originally posted by: BenJeremy

Well, I got mine for $124, so it was significantly less expensive... as for the editors, I will look into that. Internally, there is a "CPOI" directory, so I assume that it will handle custom POI databases.

Not to be argumentative but that sounds like the Black Friday price. As you know, the regular price for the Roadmate 1200 is $150 which is about the same as the Maestro 3100 and only $30 less than the 3225 which stores the maps internally with 800MB free. In addition the 3225 comes with the AC charger and data cable (in addition to the car adapter which they all come with).

If you factor in an AC adapter, more regions and not needing an SD card the $150 vs $180 value comparison is not even close. That's not even factoring in the TTS of the 3225.

Last week I purchased (but returned without opening) a Garmin Nuvi 200 for $150. I'd also choose it (at that price) over the Roadmate 1200 with the limitations you've detailed. I've only seen Ritz Camera offer it at that price and they only had 3 per store so that was probably not a fair comparison.

I wonder if any of the free, downloadable POI editors can save files in Magellan's proprietary format.

 

[jagfan]

I wonder if any of the free, downloadable POI editors can save files in Magellan's proprietary format.

I believe as long as they support the .csv format, they should work.

 

[jagfan]

Here's a nice guide to adding POIs to the Maestro:

http://www.gpspassion.com/foru...ic.asp?TOPIC_ID=103020

 

[imported_Dunnomuch]

Originally posted by: jagfan

I believe as long as they support the .csv format, they should work.

Can the GPS open csv files?

 

[jagfan]

Originally posted by: Dunnomuch

Originally posted by: jagfan

I believe as long as they support the .csv format, they should work.

Can the GPS open csv files?

Sorry, hastily misread your comment. I'm not aware of any that can SAVE in the Magellan format.

 

[sontakke]

Another bug that I found with Magellan 3225; if you select simulator mode checkmark, it will ask you if you want to simulate the route after you enter the destination. Sounds neat, doesn't it? So you say yes and you can do the virtual driving at twice the speed. When the simulation is done, the Magellan promptly forgets your destination and puts you back on the map screen and there is no more active route!

Let us say, you re-enter the destination, select NO to simulation and start driving. You miss a turn and Megallan re-calculates the route. But now it is stuck at "Do you want to simulate" prompt! This is so mind-bogglingly stupid and proves my hypothesis that Magellan engineers probably never use their own products. You can't blame them either, given that they are all sitting in Banglore and can not do any live testing of the product

- Vikas

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: sontakke
Another bug that I found with Magellan 3225; if you select simulator mode checkmark, it will ask you if you want to simulate the route after you enter the destination. Sounds neat, doesn't it? So you say yes and you can do the virtual driving at twice the speed. When the simulation is done, the Magellan promptly forgets your destination and puts you back on the map screen and there is no more active route!

Let us say, you re-enter the destination, select NO to simulation and start driving. You miss a turn and Megallan re-calculates the route. But now it is stuck at "Do you want to simulate" prompt! This is so mind-bogglingly stupid and proves my hypothesis that Magellan engineers probably never use their own products. You can't blame them either, given that they are all sitting in Banglore and can not do any live testing of the product

- Vikas

calm down. you can disable the simulation prompt at your setting menu. So it would not ask you about simulation every time.

 

[imported_Dunnomuch]

The simulation mode is waaay too slow, even at 2x, to be useful.

 

[Slaughter 5150]

Thanks so much for the 6m POI. It's almost too much. Thanks again! See you all on XBox Live.

Slaughter 5150

 

[lotust]

My 3250 came with this allready I think. So I could have bought the 3225 and paid allot less with this POI swap?



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[steve22]

Finally, I updated my 3140 with new POI of Timekeeper. So far working without a hitch.

 

[mac1711]

Their website is listing 6,000,000 POI for the 3200+ series now....

http://content.hmxmedia.com/ma...xx/usa/index_3220.html

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: mac1711
Their website is listing 6,000,000 POI for the 3200+ series now....

http://content.hmxmedia.com/ma...xx/usa/index_3220.html

That's good!!!! Finally they got the act together.
Hmm... but the entry level 3210 still only got 1.3M POI

 

[jagfan]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

That's good!!!! Finally they got the act together.
Hmm... but the entry level 3210 still only got 1.3M POI[/quote]

3210 says 6M POIs
3200 is still 1.3M

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: jagfan

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

That's good!!!! Finally they got the act together.
Hmm... but the entry level 3210 still only got 1.3M POI

3210 says 6M POIs
3200 is still 1.3M[/quote]

oops.. I meant 3200.

But I think only the top model got TTS.
So I guess 3225 still best deal, no?

 

[jj819]

For those who have the problem with the password: make sure there is no space at the end of the password!

 

[cdnsubmariner]

Has anyone compared the Garmin Nuvi 250 with the Magellan 3225. I am concerned that it may not be as easy to upgrade the 3225 map software as it is with the Garmin. I am new to this and am guessing that the software will need to be updated occassionally to keep up with road and changes.

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: cdnsubmariner
Has anyone compared the Garmin Nuvi 250 with the Magellan 3225. I am concerned that it may not be as easy to upgrade the 3225 map software as it is with the Garmin. I am new to this and am guessing that the software will need to be updated occassionally to keep up with road and changes.

Unfortunately Garmin has POI build into their map and there is no way you can mod the map. (but you can still add your own POI data one by one, but it is very time consuming)

Nuvi 250 has great interface/ screen/ volume, but it lack of TTS function.
Let's say you are not live in major city, then you really don't need TTS.
But if you ever drive around Dupont Circle, Washington DC, then you will realize w/ 8 differnts street comes together, "Turn right in 300 feet" may not be adequate.

From what I know all GPS manfacture release their new map annually (either from Navteq or TeleAltas) for you to update w/ fees. (Except TomTom's new mapshare, which you can correct or share the error. But entire upgrade still require fees)

I have tested Nuvi 2xx/2xxW line, if you can spend extra $50 compare to Magellan 3225, then I will only recommend Nuvi 260.

 

[imported_Dunnomuch]

Originally posted by: cdnsubmariner
Has anyone compared the Garmin Nuvi 250 with the Magellan 3225. I am concerned that it may not be as easy to upgrade the 3225 map software as it is with the Garmin. I am new to this and am guessing that the software will need to be updated occassionally to keep up with road and changes.

What features are important to you? If you value support, Magellan may not be the brand for you. There is no shortage of old and new horror stories about tons of phone time, months for repair and relatively high repair costs. Dunno how that will be now that unit prices are much lower than even a few months ago.

I believe the Maestro 32xx/42xx ship with a later map version than the Nuvi series though they may be the same after your initial Garmin online update. Apparently you need the map of Canada which is included in the Nuvi 250 that is not in the cheaper but otherwise identical Nuvi 200. Isn't the Nuvi 250 close in price to the 260 (which adds TTS)? Garmin has a widescreen 200 & 250 model but not a widescreen 260.

The Nuvi 200, 250, 260 do not have multi-destination routing (like the Maestro 32xx/42xx) but do allow one "via point" on a route. The Nuvi's have significantly longer battery life but do not ship with an AC adapter (though they all ship with car power adapter). Magellan's website does not even list the 3225 (as of today) though it lists the 3220 and 3250. Magellan has released an update for the 31xx/41xx series which is only a few months older than the 32xx/42xx.

 

[cdnsubmariner]

Thanks for the info guys. I think I am going to purchase the 3225 only because of price and the fact that I can add the 6 million POI (thanks timekeeper).

I really want the TTS as I have travelled all across both Canada and the US including to many of the big cities (Toronto, NYC, Washington D.C., LA, etc.) and plan to do a lot more. This leaves my choices to either the 3225 or Nuvi 260.

Currently the 3225 is available in Canada for $199.00, the Nuvi 250 is $239.00, and the Nuvi 260 is over $300.00. I have found the 260 on ebay but once I factor in shipping etc. to Canada it is still over $300.00 or close to it and the Nuvi doesn't come with a usb cable.

Cheers

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: cdnsubmariner
Thanks for the info guys. I think I am going to purchase the 3225 only because of price and the fact that I can add the 6 million POI (thanks timekeeper).

I really want the TTS as I have travelled all across both Canada and the US including to many of the big cities (Toronto, NYC, Washington D.C., LA, etc.) and plan to do a lot more. This leaves my choices to either the 3225 or Nuvi 260.

Currently the 3225 is available in Canada for $199.00, the Nuvi 250 is $239.00, and the Nuvi 260 is over $300.00. I have found the 260 on ebay but once I factor in shipping etc. to Canada it is still over $300.00 or close to it and the Nuvi doesn't come with a usb cable.

Cheers

You are welcome.

BUT! the 6 Million POI does NOT includs Canada.
Top of line 3250's Canadian POI ONLY account for 17MB of Data.
I also have Mod the Canada POI from Higher model, but people said there is no different.

Just in case you want the Canadian POI off higher model for your 3225, follow the link.
http://rapidshare.com/files/81...52/CANADA_POI.rar.html

 

[imported_Dunnomuch]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper
Just in case you want the Canadian POI off higher model for your 3225, follow the link.
http://rapidshare.com/files/81...52/CANADA_POI.rar.html

That appears to be the same as what ships on the 3225. At least the size is the same.

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: Dunnomuch

That appears to be the same as what ships on the 3225. At least the size is the same.

Top of line 3250's Canadian POI ONLY account for 17MB of Data.
I also have Mod the Canada POI from Higher model, but people said there is no different.