Who's buying a 6 core Coffee Lake CPU? (Poll Inside)

[moonbogg]

OK then, the assumptions first. Assume the per core performance is on par with 7700K and it overclocks just like a 7700K, but with perhaps a little extra heat that needs to be dealt with somehow. Cost is $400 or just under for i7 and some good bit less for the i5. With that said,

YOU BUYING IT OR WHAT?

 

[AtenRa]

For $400 no, for $300-330 i would really take it in to consideration for upgrading my 3770K@4.4GHz.

 

[CakeMonster]

Given that assumption, absolutely. That is also my biggest worry though.

 

[CHADBOGA]

As my CPU is still more than enough for me, it doesn't matter how good any new CPU is currently, until software arrives that I want to use and my CPU can't adequately run it.

Then I will upgrade.

Your poll options could be better.

 

[beginner99]

OK then, the assumptions first. Assume the per core performance is on par with 7700K and it overclocks just like a 7700K, but with perhaps a little extra heat that needs to be dealt with somehow. Cost is $400 or just under for i7 and some good bit less for the i5. With that said,

YOU BUYING IT OR WHAT?

Yeah will probably buy it if the price is like that were I live (which usually means higher than US). Still rocking on Lynnfield CPU so it's overdue to upgrade.

 

[AdamK47]

Sure, ok.

 

[StinkyPinky]

It's very likely I will. I am hoping they aren't limiting it to 16 pcie lanes though. However with the 7800x only at 28 I think they will otherwise the 7800x will be almost pointless.

 

[NTMBK]

If it was a drop in upgrade for my 6700, I'd consider it. But Intel screwed themselves out of a sale. Bravo, Intel.

 

[Meliodas]

I had an i7-6700K, skipped Kaby Lake (thankfully) and my main PC is a Ryzen 7 1700X that I'm pretty happy with, but it's more geared toward productivity, and I'd like to get back to Intel for a dedicated gaming/VR rig. 8700K fits the bill for power if it OC's well enough.

Also had a coffee theme in mind for the build since the "Coffee Lake" generation codename was first leaked/announced: dual loop custom liquid cooling with one loop using black coffee color coolant (CPU), and one using creamer/milk color coolant (GPU). Likely using all Noctua fans for rads and case fans, with case painted to color match Noctua's color scheme.

 

[iamgenius]

Only if Z270 supports it.

 

[ericlp]

Don't forget to Grab you a new motherboard too. Don't expect to just swap out CPU's.

From what I hear, it's half baked, meaning... While they still use LGA1151, however, apparently they require new motherboards and chipsets to drive them. So when Intel does roll out the new socket for later lines, of course if you want to upgrade to that, well, bust out your wallet again since, the new board you just bought is now obsolete.

Might be better to wait it out and see what comes down the road from intel later.

 

[LTC8K6]

Lots of folks skipped Skylake and Kaby lake, so this is their time to make a move, I would think.
I have been waiting patiently with my Haswell chips.

I tend to buy new mobos anyway, so the socket changes never bother me. I always donate my old stuff to people who need it, so the socket changes are not really a problem.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Not in the market right now, but if I were, it would definitely be my choice. Not willing to give up single thread performance for a cheap price or moar cores. Six core i5 would probably be my choice. Almost certainly better MT performance than current i7, probably very close in ST performance, and cheaper than the current i7.

 

[ViRGE]

After Skylake-X proved somewhat disappointing, this has my attention. It's time to upgrade my 3960X - pick up the clockspeed and IPC gains of the past several years - and a 6 core Coffee Lake may be just the ticket.

 

[Ajay]

After Skylake-X proved somewhat disappointing, this has my attention. It's time to upgrade my 3960X - pick up the clockspeed and IPC gains of the past several years - and a 6 core Coffee Lake may be just the ticket.

Same here. I wanted to see what I could do with AVX-512, but the mobos still have issues overclocked even though they are fairly pricey. Intel nerfing the 6 & 8 core CPUs with only 28 lanes is dumb in the face of TR (from a consumer perspective). I'm waiting to see what comes out of Silicon Lottery because I hate the lame TIM on these CPUs (IMHO, Intel can do better even without soldier, but don't for some mysterious reason). Wasn't going to upgrade this year, but my current system is suffering issues I can't seem to fix.

 

[dullard]

I will be buying one, but until I see OEM system prices, I can't make up my mind.

I really wanted a Coffee Lake version of the 7600 since the 7600 was such a great value (much under appreciated with only ~10% less speed than the 7700K in the many use cases where hyperthreading doesn't help but $130 cheaper).

However, it appears that there won't be an 8600, and the i5 line is stuck with the 8600K or 8400. I won't be overclocking so the 8600K just adds cost and TDP with no real gains. The 8400 is noticeably lower in clocks than the other Coffee Lake processors.

So, it comes down to OEM pricing. Go all out on the 8700K even though I have no use of 12 threads? Or settle on the 8400?

 

[Yakk]

Definitely not for me., too anemic.

 

[LTC8K6]

I will be buying one, but until I see OEM system prices, I can't make up my mind.

I really wanted a Coffee Lake version of the 7600 since the 7600 was such a great value (much under appreciated with only ~10% less speed than the 7700K in the many use cases where hyperthreading doesn't help but $130 cheaper).

However, it appears that there won't be an 8600, and the i5 line is stuck with the 8600K or 8400. I won't be overclocking so the 8600K just adds cost and TDP with no real gains. The 8400 is noticeably lower in clocks than the other Coffee Lake processors.

So, it comes down to OEM pricing. Go all out on the 8700K even though I have no use of 12 threads? Or settle on the 8400?

The 8400's turbo clocks look reasonable.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8400

 

[dullard]

The 8400's turbo clocks look reasonable.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8400

I'm a realist. I buy OEM systems with lackluster cooling systems, have my computers out of sight in enclosed cabinets and no airflow, and don't dust often. I also don't often need more than 2 cores.

So, when I need 1 or 2 cores, the 8700K turbo is 18% higher than the 8400. 18% is enough to really notice. When I do need all cores, my situation will likely have thermal throttling down to base. Where the 8700K is 32% faster. So, I just don't see a use for me where the 8400 will really perform. I can deal with ~10% slower as you can hardly tell 10% in real use. But 18% or 32%? Yes, I'll notice.

If I'm getting a whole new system, the cost of the system is far more than the difference of the CPUs (usually). But it comes down to the cost premiums that OEMs put on it.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'm a realist. I buy OEM systems with lackluster cooling systems, have my computers out of sight in enclosed cabinets and no airflow, and don't dust often. I also don't often need more than 2 cores.

So, when I need 1 or 2 cores, the 8700K turbo is 18% higher than the 8400. 18% is enough to really notice. When I do need all cores, my situation will likely have thermal throttling down to base. Where the 8700K is 32% faster. So, I just don't see a use for me where the 8400 will really perform. I can deal with ~10% slower as you can hardly tell 10% in real use. But 18% or 32%? Yes, I'll notice.

If I'm getting a whole new system, the cost of the system is far more than the difference of the CPUs (usually). But it comes down to the cost premiums that OEMs put on it.

It sounds like you would want a 65W 8700 then, rather than a 95W 8700K?

 

[dullard]

It sounds like you would want a 65W 8700 then, rather than a 95W 8700K?

Comes down to system price. The 8700 chip will likely cost almost the same as the 8700K. Which is why I am leaning towards the 8700K. But, who knows what the OEM system price will be. It isn't like we'll have mainstream H370 chipset or the value H310 chipset available when I buy. So, if I'm stuck in a high end motherboard, I suspect the whole system price will be similar between the 8700K and 8700.

65 W TDP is a nice draw. But it is often pared with even crappier cooling. My current processor is 95 W, so it is doable in an enclosure. Although when I reach in to plug in a USB stick, everything is quite toasty.

 

[samboy]

Currently on a 4790k and this will not swing it for me:-

1. Interested to see what AMD comes out in 2018 - if anything (Ryzen second generation)
They have set the new standard of 8 cores for mainstream and would like to see the IPC gap closed a little more
2. Intel is trying to short change us; I expect that they will be under pressure to lift their game to an 8-core offering next year

Bottom line: Competition is good and I'm going to hold off to see what happens in 2018
4790k will last another 12 months

 

[Phynaz]

Me, as soon as GPU's come down in price it's time for a whole new system.

 

[pjmssn]

It looks very tempting... I am also looking forward to the Xeon W-2133 to replace my E5-1650 V2. So it will depend on whether I can live without ECC memory or not.

 

[moonbogg]

Currently on a 4790k and this will not swing it for me:-

1. Interested to see what AMD comes out in 2018 - if anything (Ryzen second generation)
They have set the new standard of 8 cores for mainstream and would like to see the IPC gap closed a little more
2. Intel is trying to short change us; I expect that they will be under pressure to lift their game to an 8-core offering next year

Bottom line: Competition is good and I'm going to hold off to see what happens in 2018
4790k will last another 12 months

I agree with this. I'd rather have the 8700K over what I currently have, but its not worth replacing. Like you, I now expect 8 cores on mainstream and I feel unhappy about Intel offering only 6. I feel its a half measure. I also am bothered by AMD's lack of IPC and clock speed, even though 8 cores are offered. I think next gen is when the two sides may come closer to each other where hopefully Intel offers 8 cores and AMD has better IPC and clocks. If they end up close, I'll get the AMD option if it has a soldered die because I know Intel's will never be soldered again.
So, the 8700K will be great I think. It just needs two more cores + soldered die. That's all.
Those two cores matter also because there are things you can do with 8 cores that you can't do with 6, no matter how fast the 6 cores are. That's the issue. I bet streaming will still be smoother on a 1700 than on an 8700K despite the FPS differences.