How's the coffee lake igpu performance gonna be like? Enough to play indie games on the i3 model?
No generational improvement from kaby to coffee? Isn't each new gen 30-40% better than previous one?Performance should be practically identical to Kaby Lake. Maybe the mobile models will clock higher.
No generational improvement from kaby to coffee? Isn't each new gen 30-40% better than previous one?
Ok i didn't know that, any reason why intel chose to not make any improvements?Same GPU as KBL, known since ages.
Ok i didn't know that, any reason why intel chose to not make any improvements?
Precisely what I am thinking. The i5-8600K will be a gaming beast, however for those games that benefit from HT the i7-8700K will be a monster. I want the monster.
The real overall upgrade to the 4790K/7700K has been out for months already, it's the less expensive upgradable 8 core Ryzen 1700. Sorry Intel, maybe next generation.
Why you would consider the i5 is mindboggling to me...
We're on the same page. Sure the i5 will work. But why in god's name would you only want 6 threads of power?
Really, just get an i7. As a current i7 user, you can't go wrong. You don't wonder what if, you get great performance, it's just amazing. A lot of people upgraded from i5s to Ryzen 7s and were blown away. I think they just needed i7s in many cases to alleviate some background tasks.
The i7 is the best line from intel. I don't see a point in penny pinching for an i5/i3. It's WAY too close in price to an i7.
Imagine if a GTX 1080ti/1080/1070 were this close in price.....
The incremental cost of getting in i7... I seriously just don't get most people.
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I'd more likely recommend a Ryzen CPU than an i5. If you're going to penny pinch, penny pinch. Otherwise, just get the i7.
I dont' disagree about the bang/buck on a pure benchmark basis.On average the i7 will likely only outperform the the i5 by 10%, and cost 30%+ more.
It's pretty simple choice for bang/buck buyers.
I dont' disagree about the bang/buck on a pure benchmark basis.
But that's just based on how you sliced and massaged the data.
I could say that the i7 will outperform the i5 by 44% in HT threaded games but only cost 30% more, and that I value having access to that large performance difference in cases where HT is utilized....
44%??? As much as I like HT and extra threads, this sounds optimistic to the point of hyperbole. I don't believe it can be substantiated, the uplift from 6 HT logical cores will probably be ~30% best case, and the best cases aren't normally games.I dont' disagree about the bang/buck on a pure benchmark basis.
But that's just based on how you sliced and massaged the data.
I could say that the i7 will outperform the i5 by 44% in HT threaded games but only cost 30% more, and that I value having access to that large performance difference in cases where HT is utilized....
Tell that to people who bought 7700K over 7600K only to realize 6 months later that they paid $330+ for what was to become a $200 CPU. Poof! Making TCO calculations without proper context is a poor tactic at best.Core i5-?600K and i7-?700K absolute difference in price is small: it is not like i7-6900K and 6950X. CPUs for gaming are infrequent updates, so spend more now to avoid upgrading sooner.
Tell that to people who bought 7700K over 7600K only to realize 6 months later that they paid $330+ for what was to become a $200 CPU. Poof! Making TCO calculations without proper context is a poor tactic at best.
And talking about context, we just heard Ice Lake increases core count yet again.
This is the CPU not GPU forum.No generational improvement from kaby to coffee? Isn't each new gen 30-40% better than previous one?
All intel cpu are also apu.This is the CPU not GPU forum.
Should point out that Z390 isn't slated to come out until 2H 2018. So if you think about it, Z390 is irrelevant to any Coffee Lake purchasing discussion.
Yeah, not wanting to wait for another year and already skipping Ice Lake in favor of Tiger Lake, whilst enjoying this news, I'm good with getting Z370 in a few weeks.
At some point you need to pull the trigger. There's always something better coming from the manufacturers in this space.
Did you mean 8700K? Because the 8600k will be very unlikely to be more expensive than the 8 core ryzen chips, and most likely will be a bit cheaper. And again, it depends on workload. It will be faster in many applications as well, namely those that utilize six cores or less.