Easy for you to say when you don't have to sell an i7 CPU to buy a Ryzen 7 CPU.
You can say that on the sidelines as a person with no actual skin in the game just throwing out random comments.
For actual i7 users, your comments are hilariuos. I have never once considered Ryzen 7 to be a viable upgrade for my CPU.
I'm actually waiting for Zen 2 before I see if AMD is up to par for my use.
AMD is great for a budget option don't get me wrong. If you need raw price/perf AMD wins. But when you just want power? That's the reason I am going intel, and that's the reason I'm switching to Nvidia.
I am an actual i7 owner/user (4790K) but thanks for assuming I have no skin in the game. I also own a 6600K / Z170 with no upgrade path to Coffee Lake due to.....reasons. I also have two general purpose Ryzen systems (1700 and 1700X). Sure for gaming they're not much of an upgrade over a highly clocked Haswell or newer i7 (for now), but last time I checked many people use PC's for more than just PC gaming. I don't see why you think AMD Ryzen is just a budget option, that's a little insulting given they outperform Intel in virtually every task but gaming.
Yes Coffee lake is Intel's answer to Ryzen, it'll likely be 10 to 15% better overall in gaming like the 7700K (why upgrade to Coffee Lake if you're just a gamer and already an i7 owner?) and perhaps also beat it in some multithreaded applications, although Ryzen SMT appears superior to Hyperthreading so it should be interesting if Intel's clock speed advantage will give it the edge here.
I'm excited there's finally competition but Intel really needs to humble themselves and stop screwing over their customers. They could start with lowering the price of the CPU's ($500+ CAD is a little unreasonable for the 8700K) or forcing users to upgrade to the latest chipsets, or having to buy Z series boards to overclock K series chips, and packing in a decent CPU cooler to save ~+-$40.00 instead of forcing customers into another purchase.
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