i7 not i5 as pertaining to the cache size more that threads... can we back that assertion up with numbers? That you need moar cores just cause MP count goes up? That doesent make sense to me unless the engine is hardwired for cheating...
i7 not i5 as pertaining to the cache size more that threads... can we back that assertion up with numbers? That you need moar cores just cause MP count goes up? That doesent make sense to me unless the engine is hardwired for cheating...I guess must benchmarking goes by a script and all sorts of single player modes is run?
Yes if you do play first person shooter single player by all means buy a 4c 4t cpu. But going into heavy mp battles in a modern engine you are quickly throughput limited. And beeing so is a nightmare and for many it takes away a gold part of the experience. And frankly who the h..l play sp these days in mp games???
The value of cl is excactly we get 6c 12t and solid freq at the same time. That is what is needed for high end gaming.
I have a minimum level of performance I accept. In recent history the r5 is the first processor from amd to do this.I disagree, I was still on an Phenom II 955 until 3 years ago and i had no problems playing games and a Phenom 2 was never the leader in benchmarks when it came out. You can keep overpaying for Intel or you can get a solid Ryzen system which may not be the fastest at games. I will stick with Ryzen unless it becomes a bulldozer compared to Intel.
Very well said.MicroCenter CPU prices do not match any other store. They sell CPUs as a loss leader to get in-store traffic.
Dropping prices to match a new model introduced by a competitor is something AMD does all the time with GPUs. By your argument AMD video cards are "over priced" too.
intel has been the leader in CPU performance ever since Core 2 while AMD has had to try to compete on "value." I'll agree that intel has been lazy about increasing that performance in the years after Sandy Bridge but that is not the same as being "overpriced."
This is all subjective and emotional so we should probably stop derailing the thread and agree to disagree.
Or it may not.Per Anton Shilov @ AT, i7-8700K may cost $400 before taxes.
Source:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1184...fee-lakes-cpus-published-400-for-core-i78700k
Disclaimer: This is based on preorder pricing of one UK retailer. We don't have US retailer pricing for comparison yet.
Yes, actual cores are better.I may look at going from a i7 4790k to a i5 8600k. I'll see what the benchmarks look like. I am just wondering if 6c/6t would be better than 4c/8t. Is actual core count that much better than HT?
A very basic but useful estimate would put 4c/8t on equal footing with a theoretical 5c/5t CPU with the same type of cores as the first chip. There are other factors to consider as well, but this would be the baseline for common consumer apps.I may look at going from a i7 4790k to a i5 8600k. I'll see what the benchmarks look like. I am just wondering if 6c/6t would be better than 4c/8t. Is actual core count that much better than HT?
The silence on Coffee Lake is driving me nuts!!
With NDAs violated last time I assume Intel plays this one insanely close to the vest until launch day.
With NDAs violated last time I assume Intel plays this one insanely close to the vest until launch day.
We still haven't seen Asus boards... I know that the Apex and formula won't be available until a while after release (OC3D subscribers video), but still, there're plenty of other boards.
First one i have seen. im look for the asus boards as well.
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-strix-z370-i-gaming-mini-itx-motherboard-pictured
How good is mobo Wi-Fi compared to a cable these days?
Good mobo Wi-Fi is great. Make sure to get Intel or Broadcom if possible, KILLER Wi-Fi (which is basically Qualcomm) is OK, but not my first choice.
Avoid RealTek
Thanks man! It'll be whatever is on the Maximus X Hero but I may just get the non Wi-Fi one and use a cable is it's bad.
Maximus X Hero should be an ultra high end board with good WiFi. Don’t sweat it.
Excellent! One less cable in the house is always good. Noob question; do these boards usually come with an antenna is is that really old fashioned ha ha? Never paid any attention to it to be honest.
Depends on the board. Higher end ones usually come with one of those antennas that you can move around and place.
Ah so not one you screw in at the back. Fine by me thanks again!!