I used to like Gigabyte but after my experience with the X370 Gaming K5, it would take a miracle for me to consider another Aorus board.
I don't think so, no. Honestly, these quirky BIOS is why I stay well away from Gigabyte boards - it's always something with them. I always put my money on Asus.
Did you try clearing the BIOS or maybe even re-flash it and start over?
So who else is buying a 6-channel, fully AVX enabled Xeon LGA 3647 when they come out?
I wish they came in unlocked flavors
Well, what about AMD's "Enthusiast" platform, ThreadRipper? Ryzen is actually their mainstream platform, and it outshines Intel's mainstream platform in a LOT of ways.I need something more than Ryzen.
I need more than 16-20 PCI-E lanes, I need quad channel memory, I also need heavier duty server grade boards(non mainstream) that X299 provides.
While I understand Ryzen can do all of this, it cannot do it as well as the enthusiast grade platform.
On top of that, X299 provides greater flexibility and upgradability and a much longer usable service life due to it.
I certainly won't disagree with you that AMD is currently the best for mainstream plat multimedia and workstation use.Well, what about AMD's "Enthusiast" platform, ThreadRipper? Ryzen is actually their mainstream platform, and it outshines Intel's mainstream platform in a LOT of ways.
I don't doubt that their Enthusiast platform will do the same.
That said, what do you think about the VRM debacle? "Much longer usable service life"... what if you have to replace your whole mobo six months down the line, because it was either recalled, or Intel came up with a secondary socket / board spec for the higher-core-count SKL-X CPUs. (Above 10 core.)
So who else is buying a 6-channel, fully AVX enabled Xeon LGA 3647 when they come out?
It's too late anyways because I already have my X299 set up and running.
There is no VRM issue with my board, despite the Der8user video(although he never tested the Mark 1). The VRM debacle is a nothing burger. It is simply due to poorly designed VRM heatsinks, not the VRMs themselves.
The board I have has a 8 + 4 pin connector for the 10+ core CPUs as well so I do not have to worry about that either.
I understand where your coming from, but X299 is a good platform so far.
So who else is buying a 6-channel, fully AVX enabled Xeon LGA 3647 when they come out?
As much as I'd love to, I'm pretty happy with my dual Xeon (Sandy Bridge) server. . I have been looking for an excuse to build another server like that, but even I can't find one.
As much as I'd love to, I'm pretty happy with my dual Xeon (Sandy Bridge) server. . I have been looking for an excuse to build another server like that, but even I can't find one.
You should use the excuse that you're looking as the excuse, build it, and like Edrick said find the use once you're done. Since you're already looking for excuse, you obviously want to; so why not do it...
A few reasons I don't:
1. My office is already hot enough with all the equipment I have in it - I think it is a major source of heat for my entire second floor. I have an older server I built a number of years ago and have it turned off due to the heat generation.
2. The server is a behemoth and I don't want to spend that much money replacing or supplementing it when it does everything I need.
Plus, the wife would probably not be happy.
Guys, this is a premier hardware forum. You have a full right to grovel to your wives but it doesn't belong here. There is enough of that mangina stuff splattered all over the web. Please, consider if this is the right place to post your dirty laundry.
Guys, this is a premier hardware forum. You have a full right to grovel to your wives but it doesn't belong here. There is enough of that mangina stuff splattered all over the web. Please, consider if this is the right place to post your dirty laundry.
Yeah, AMD fanboys got way more rabid in CPU forums since 3570k, things certainly change.
I cant decide which board to get. Whether to stick to my original plan of getting one of the cheaper ones like the Aorus Gaming 3, Strix, Prime-A, TUF-1 (and if so, which one of them)... or invest into higher level one/pricier, like Aorus Gaming 7, strictly cause of the alleged VRM issues.
The whole VRM situation is a nightmare, at one side you have the DerBauer guy claiming its a problem, on other side you have the OC3D guy claiming its not a problem... And all the other big youtubers and hardware reviewers remain silent, one would expect the likes of Gaming Nexus, JayZ, etc... to do some testing and have their say about it right now. This way i can pretty much toss the coin to decide who to trust.
I'm subscribed to that thread as well. There is a lot of conflicting information right now. OC3d did a video on YouTube and his temps were normal so maybe there are bad batches?I'd buy the MSI gaming pro carbon as well only because I have the X99 version and I'm completely biased toward it. Good enough reason IMO. Although I wouldn't buy anything right now until these issues are either verified or found to be false.
Regarding the VRM issue, some people (like a lot) are discussing it over at overclock.net and at least one person reported some pretty dang high temps on the VRM. Near 90c if I recall. I only read one guy's post and many people over there feel quite skeptical about this potential VRM issue. So much conflicting information its pretty strange.
Quite a few over there seem convinced that new boards will be needed for 12+ core chips, but that shouldn't surprise anyone at this point. Intel will certainly catch hell for that when the time comes. All those arguments (from Intel directly btw) about people buying a 7740k to enter the x299 platform on the cheap so they can upgrade to a big chip later...it all goes out the window if they are limited to 10 cores. I guess they could simply buy ANOTHER x299 revised version board and a big chip. Intel would love that.