Who's Christian here?

[The Godfather]

Religion is bullshit. Althought i am Christian. Not religious though.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei

I agree. It doesn't imply sinless perfection, IMO. Lord knows that's impossible for born sinners. No one ever kept the Law. I think it means more of a mature godliness. (see Ephesians 4:12-13)

So verses would suggest to me that we truly can become like Christ, who was perfect. It speaks of perfecting the Saints, and of coming to a measure of hte stature of the fulness of Christ. Such is my opinion though.

I hope I've made it clear though that we don't feel perfection will come to us in this life, but only after even more work in the life to come. Also, we do realize that none of this would even be possible without Christ. Let me know though if I've confused anyone.

 

[Krazefinn]

Strive for perfection is the best we can do until translation. We will NEVEr accomplish absolute christlike perfection, but will be sinless in that we will not be consumed by his pure glory if any active, voluntary sin or guile still existed in our hearts. Its all about moral development, and is lifelong process. Justification first, by the blood, and sanctification oinly after the final trump, and the "dead shall be raised incorruptible".
Godfather, you are right in that "religion" as defined by man is exclusive, fragmenting. True spirituality is inclusive, cohesive, and brings unity. Not necessarily the same exact interpretations but the same result of patience, kindness, longsuffering, merciful...abiding by the golden rule even when no one is watching.

 

[Shenkoa]

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: Shenkoa
I don?t know what I am. Maybe someone can help me here.

I do believe in.

1. Jesus Christ
2. Evolution
3. Science
4. Good and Bad

What I don?t believe in.

1. That Jesus rose from the grave.
2. In god
3. Heaven
4. Hell
5. Most of the Bible
6. Speaking in tongue

What I hate.

1. People who look down on you because your a non Christian or think your evil, in my opinion people such as that are simple minded idiots. LIKE EVERYONE I KNOW.

Definitely not Christian.

Christians (or anybody for that matter) have no right to judge anyone else.
What was it that Jesus said? Let he without sin cast the first stone?

Judging is self-serving, yes. It allows people to get a much-desired sense of moral superiority. As an evangelical Christian, this is what I hate most about what Christians do - we judge. It's human nature. You read the Bible, learn to discern right from wrong, and it becomes second nature to point fingers at others. A better quote would be when Jesus said in parable that we point out the speck in our brother's eye while ignoring the plank in our own eye.

But being a non-Christian, I ask that you learn to discern God's message from the bastardizations of it that you see daily from Christians. Ideally, a Christian should never ever ever ever react to injustice with ANYTHING but the perfect love that is a reflection of Christ. When we do, we fail God. God asks us to be meek and humble and loving toward others unfailingly, as the Beatitudes commands - and use His commandments to judge no one but ourselves.

For the previous author, exactly what is it that you believe about Jesus Christ? I ask that you seek out a book called "More than a Carpenter" by Josh McDowell - it outlines some fundamental and verifiable evidence why Jesus could be anything BUT merely a good moral teacher.

I dont beileve in God as a man but as a force. A force that we cannot explain, and perfect harmony among all matter and all living things.

 

[Shenkoa]

I beileve in god as a force and naturally harmony of all matter living and not living.

Not as a man who lives in the sky who wears a big robe.

 

[WildHorse]

Yes.

I deeply believe in Christ.

I've seriously studied something of several of the "bibles" of different religions.

I don't believe all the dogmatic theology built on top of Christ, after Paul, and that which I do, I mostly take as allegory, understanding words as pointers to deeper truths not expressible in words.

A dogmatic literal interpretation of the bible is naive.

The last couple of months I've been reading a lot in My Imitation of Christ, by Thomas, à Kempis.