Whos getting Ivy Bridge?

[drizek]

WIll get it in a laptop. Probably.

 

[Masahiro]

Definitely getting IB:

My motherboard does not have any water blocks that support it and because I have a locked processor (i7 960) it makes it hard to OC very well. So the idea of a 3600K and new mobo with a waterblock intrigues me

 

[Acanthus]

6-core at 5ghz will be about 40% more performance, but will not be $300.

6 cores will not average 40% more though.

It would just be synthetics and encoding.

 

[Rifter]

Definitely getting IB:

My motherboard does not have any water blocks that support it and because I have a locked processor (i7 960) it makes it hard to OC very well. So the idea of a 3600K and new mobo with a waterblock intrigues me

This is completly false, the 1366 i7 chips overclocked very well and its not difficult to do. Most CO steppings would hit 3.8-4Ghz and most DO's would hit 4-4.2Ghz.

Overclocking my 930 to 4.2Ghz was one of the easiest overclocks i have ever done in my life.

 

[Edrick]

Since X79 got butched for features i have now re-evaluated my situation and decided im going to wait for the IB-E chipset to come out that fully supports all the new features that X79 had promised.

And where did you hear that IB-E will have its own chipset? You realize the only thing that x79 promised and is not going to deliver is 10 6GB SATA ports and SAS support. Also USB 3.0, but that is easily fixed with 3rd party chips just like every other MB on the market today.

I doubt you will see a new chipset for the high end platform until Haswell hits.

 

[exar333]

6 cores will not average 40% more though.

It would just be synthetics and encoding.

If you can get 10-15% more clock-speed + 6 cores you are probably looking at close to 40% more speed in multi-threaded tasks. If you are not looking at multi-threaded tasks, it will be a while before you get 40% more speed than a 5ghz 2600k. Maybe a 6ghz Haswell (20% more clock-speed + IPC improvements could get you close.

 

[tweakboy]

When I havent maxed out my CPU , why bother with a newer CPU . except hassles,, mobo ,, OS install apps.. etc.

Games run at 60fps capped @ 1080p vsync on . high quality, 8x CSAA 16xAF game maxed out.

Crysis 2 is 60fps no matter what the scene is. Soo why buy a Ivy Bridge, to do what ? Ok video renders will be faster,, but thats it. The rest you wont notice if your already coming off a quad. Me personally my system is too custom and audio workstation,, I get 25 percent CPU usage working on a project.. no need to upgrade.. for that either.. hype and Intel wants money... Core 2 was the biggest break through.. gg and gl and gb

Only people that should be upgrading to Ivy are dual core users.... Thank you

 

[AdamK47]

I'll be getting it in the form of the IB-E.

 

[Spikesoldier]

maybe if OC's are maxing out at 6.0

probably keep rolling with i5 750 @ 4.0 until haswell

 

[Lex Luger]

There are lots of reasons for needing a 6 ghz quadcore for gaming, but most poeple wont know because they dont play those types of games.

Emulation can always use faster cores, even sandy bridge at 4.5 isnt enough for many dolphin (gamecube) games.

Real time strategy games like Starcraft 2 will bog down when you try to play with 7 ai opponents in skirmish mode.

Even an old game like Command and Conquer: Generals doesnt have enough cpu power to run 7 ai opponents without a little stuttering, even with Sandy Bridge.

Wanna play Medieval 2 with 5000 vs 5000 battle, youre gonna need a monster fast cpu

How about Mount and Blade with more than 500 troops, again you need a monster cpu, even my 2500k at 4.6 chokes sometimes.

Fact is, you need ivy bridge.

Ivy Bridge is going to destroy everything, if you dont want to believe it, go back to using your corei7920 and your bulldozer cpu, ill be in ivy town day 1 just like I have a sandy bridge day 1

 

[poohbear]

so ivy bridge is just gonna require a bios update to work in current Z68 mobos right? usually intel requires a new socket for their new CPUs, btu in this case i can keep my Z68, update the bios, and in goes ivy bridge, right?

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

so ivy bridge is just gonna require a bios update to work in current Z68 mobos right? usually intel requires a new socket for their new CPUs, btu in this case i can keep my Z68, update the bios, and in goes ivy bridge, right?

Die shrinks based on the current architecture have almost never required new motherboards. Look at Conroe and Penryn, Nehalem and Westmere, and now Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. What requires new motherboards is going to a new architecture, like Core 2 to Nehalem.

So yes, Z68 will support Ivy Bridge with a BIOS update. H61, H67, and P67 will, too.

 

[triarii3]

as long as my 2500k can still support me playing all the demanding games...which I am sure it will lol haha so probably gonna skip ivy....but then i really dont want to skip the Tick....as oppose to the tock lol

 

[poohbear]

Die shrinks based on the current architecture have almost never required new motherboards. Look at Conroe and Penryn, Nehalem and Westmere, and now Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. What requires new motherboards is going to a new architecture, like Core 2 to Nehalem.

So yes, Z68 will support Ivy Bridge with a BIOS update. H61, H67, and P67 will, too.

ok sweet, and ivy bridge will be 6 cores and 8 cores right? if so getting a z68 mobo will keep me (mobo) upgrade free for atleast another 2 years.

 

[LondonBurning]

ok sweet, and ivy bridge will be 6 cores and 8 cores right? if so getting a z68 mobo will keep me (mobo) upgrade free for atleast another 2 years.

Nope, Sandy Bridge-E/Ivy Bridge-E is 6 (possibly 8) core.

Ivy Bridge much like Sandy Bridge is the mainstream consumer CPU, it will stay 4 core.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

looking forward to it! next year i am due for an upgrade at work (currently have a pentium 4 dual core!!) and i'm hoping it comes out in the first half of the year!

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I'm gonna get an Ivy Bridge laptop. Add a 28nm GPU to that for awesomeness.

same.

 

[Gunbuster]

So when Ivy Bridge comes out they will be available for socket 2011 X79 boards and I can just drop one in at that point?

 

[greenhawk]

So when Ivy Bridge comes out they will be available for socket 2011 X79 boards and I can just drop one in at that point?

you will need IB-E, so will have to wait for that to be released before being able to drop it into a s2011 board. Not aware of any firm release dates for it seeing as intel will want SB-E to have a reasonable run first.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

ok sweet, and ivy bridge will be 6 cores and 8 cores right? if so getting a z68 mobo will keep me (mobo) upgrade free for atleast another 2 years.

Ivy Bridge will not support six or eight core CPUs, but Ivy Bridge-E will. Unfortunately, Ivy Bridge-E won't be released until Q3 2012 or so. Ivy Bridge will bring 5% higher IPC (per-core performance) and overclocking will be improved by 5-10%, too. Overall, 10-15% higher performance when both are overclocked for the 2500K and 2600K replacements, so not bad.

So when Ivy Bridge comes out they will be available for socket 2011 X79 boards and I can just drop one in at that point?

Ivy Bridge uses the 1155 socket; Ivy Bridge-E uses the LGA 2011 socket.

 

[Rifter]

And where did you hear that IB-E will have its own chipset? You realize the only thing that x79 promised and is not going to deliver is 10 6GB SATA ports and SAS support. Also USB 3.0, but that is easily fixed with 3rd party chips just like every other MB on the market today.

I doubt you will see a new chipset for the high end platform until Haswell hits.

Right, but if you were counting on the additional SATA ports and most importantly the SAS ports(I retire my gaming rig to home server duty when i upgrade, was counting on the SATA/SAS ports more than anything else)

Also im having some issues with my current boards NEC USB3 performance and stability so im not upgrading my board again till native USB3 is in it, as i have never had a issue with Intel USB before.

Bottom line is intel cut back X79 and removed the features that made it appeal to me so now im noing to wait and see what the next workstation/enterprise chipset brings.

 

[Shmee]

I am thinking probably wait for IB-E myself, though I might get a SB-E first and then upgrade if I have extra money earlier.

 

[poohbear]

Ivy Bridge will not support six or eight core CPUs, but Ivy Bridge-E will. Unfortunately, Ivy Bridge-E won't be released until Q3 2012 or so. Ivy Bridge will bring 5% higher IPC (per-core performance) and overclocking will be improved by 5-10%, too. Overall, 10-15% higher performance when both are overclocked for the 2500K and 2600K replacements, so not bad.



Ivy Bridge uses the 1155 socket; Ivy Bridge-E uses the LGA 2011 socket.

so if i get a z68, im stuck with 4 cores as a max upgrade path even with all ivy bridge iterations? to get an intel 6 core cpu i have to get a new mobo?

 

[john3850]

Does anyone know 100% about the IB Firmware update for bios on z68.
I saw a few posts in forms that stated the IB mb bios needs to be a higher number firmware not just a simple bios update.
To do that new firmware update I guess you must erase delete all the chip info first.
Now after the firmware flash there may be no bios info on the chip to flash the new bios to.
Hope I read wrong now mb companies never tell you complete truth.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

so if i get a z68, im stuck with 4 cores as a max upgrade path even with all ivy bridge iterations? to get an intel 6 core cpu i have to get a new mobo?

Unfortunately, yes. Ivy Bridge will not get six-core CPU support. To get six and eight-core CPU support you need Sandy Bridge-E and Ivy Bridge-E, respectively. Sandy Bridge-E probably won't support PCIe 3.0 and will have less SATA ports than originally intended, so if you're thinking of going that route I recommend waiting for Ivy Bridge-E instead.

Does anyone know 100% about the IB Firmware update for bios on z68.
I saw a few posts in forms that stated the IB mb bios needs to be a higher number firmware not just a simple bios update.
To do that new firmware update I guess you must erase delete all the chip info first.
Now after the firmware flash there may be no bios info on the chip to flash the new bios to.
Hope I read wrong now mb companies never tell you complete truth.

From Intel:

All LGA 1155 motherboards will be compatible with Ivy Bridge. Of course, it's up to the manufacturer to release a new BIOS adding support for it, but they all most definitely will. No new motherboard revisions are needed.