I'm sure you can overclock that thing to atleast 3.8Ghz
and then 4 months later Ivy Bridge beats it in gaming while having less than half the power consumption and cost.SandyBridge-E or bust
and then 4 months later Ivy Bridge beats it in gaming while having less than half the power consumption and cost.
Price cuts?
When was the last time Intel had price cuts on a CPU people in these forums would buy? Q6600?
Usually they stay the same price and just go EoL.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115067
maybe $5 cheaper than it was a year ago? Then it was probably called the 750, but 750 never got cheaper, it just got called a 760 and replaced at the same price.
um you do realize that Sandy Bridge E is really no faster for gaming than 2600k. even if Ivy Bridge is only 5% faster, that's still faster than Sandy Bridge E will be and will have more overclocking headroom. and again with a 77 watt TDP and thats including the gpu that will not even be used by gamers. go ahead and fork out big bucks for Sandy Bridge E cpu and mobo but for typical gamers, Ivy Bridge is going to make it look silly from a performance, cost and power consumption perspective.What makes you say that? Ivy Bridge will only have marginal performance improvement. Most of its perks will be around the power-savings and its much improved on-board video.
Sandy-Bridge-E will have the same PCI-E 3.0, plus more cache/cores and quad-channel memory. How on earth do you figure this will be like the 980X/2600k scenario again?
Those two were based on different platforms where 2600k's improvememtns allowed it to catch up to the aged x58 chips. The x79 stuff is based on the current tech of Sandybridge/Ivy bridge (which is really just a die shrink).
And then once Ivy-Bridge-E comes out the x79 platform will get the same die-shrinked improvement.
What makes you say that? Ivy Bridge will only have marginal performance improvement. Most of its perks will be around the power-savings and its much improved on-board video.
Sandy-Bridge-E will have the same PCI-E 3.0, plus more cache/cores and quad-channel memory. How on earth do you figure this will be like the 980X/2600k scenario again?
Those two were based on different platforms where 2600k's improvememtns allowed it to catch up to the aged x58 chips. The x79 stuff is based on the current tech of Sandybridge/Ivy bridge (which is really just a die shrink).
And then once Ivy-Bridge-E comes out the x79 platform will get the same die-shrinked improvement.
Sandy Bridge-E will probably not get PCIe 3.0 according to recent sources, but Ivy Bridge definitely will. The more cores argument is definitely valid, and at the same clocks the Core i7-3930K would be 30-45% faster in multi-threaded workloads than the i7-2600K and the same speed in single-threaded. You have to pay 80% more for that higher performance, though. Motherboard costs will be higher as well, but you do get twice the number of PCIe 2.0 lanes coupled with a better upgrade path. Quad-Channel memory means nothing for consumers; that's all I'll say. The benefit I see from it is indirect: many motherboards will include a whooping eight Memory slots.
As far as Ivy Bridge vs Sandy Bridge-E, Ivy Bridge isn't "just" a die shrink in the way that going from Conroe to Penryn wasn't. We'll have a smaller process node, but also 5% higher IPC. With it also consumes lower power consumption and higher overclocking capabilities. If Sandy Bridge gets on average 4.5-4.6GHz overclocks, we can expect an average of 4.7-4.8GHz overclocks. That means at voltage suitable for five years at least. If you don't care that much about longevity (as in keeping it running for more than three years) on Sandy Bridge you can extend that to 4.7-4.8GHz, and around 4.9-5.0GHz on Ivy Bridge. What that translates to is around 10% higher performance overall with noticeably lower power consumption, which is not shabby at all. You also have, like I mentioned previously, PCIe 3.0 support, something you probably won't have on Sandy Bridge-E due to Intel either gimping it or not being able to include it for engineering reasons.
Ivy Bridge-E won't be out until Q3 2012 or so, and that's a LONG wait; longer than the gap between SB-E and Ivy Bridge. If the rumors of it supporting eight-core CPUs are correct, though, it'll have amazing longevity provided you can put down $1000 on a CPU. It also means that the six-cores will be lowered in price by then, with one or various models probably at $400-500.
It's all a give or take, but given the lack of features that were supposed to be on SB-E/X79 I wouldn't be too excited about it.
Well put. I will be waiting for a definitive SB-E review come launch. Signs still point to at least the mobos being PCI-E capable from photos we've seen (even if the CPU doesn't support it, future IB-E upgrade path?)
I think Battlefield 3 will take a big advantage from the 6-cores/12 threads of the 3930K. Also, for those saying SB-E is barely faster, if at all, when compared to the 2600k (like in the Anandtech preview), those tests seemed very GPU limited - so it would be like saying AMD FX is just as good as SB when looking at similarly limited benches.
I'm running a 27" 2560x1440 IPS monitor at home, somehow I think SB-E combination with an SLI/Crossfire setup will work together nicely when looking ahead to new games coming out.