Who's got next?

[KyleGates]

Just curious if there has been any (fairly kinda sorta reliable) information as to what is coming after the 9800GX2 and when. I assume its still a 9800GTX but is this thing gonna get here before.....Christmas ? Id like to get a couple of the latest and greatest but not sure I can justify GX2's if something better is right around the corner ("around the corner" being within a few months as obviously something better is always just a lil while away)

 

[Aberforth]

well, there is GT200, they are going to release it as soon as everybody is done with GX2.

 

[KyleGates]

Originally posted by: Aberforth
well, there is GT200, they are going to release it as soon as everybody is done with GX2.

Well thats concrete...so GT200 between now and 2011...coo. Wait wait, what about peeps who are done with the Gx2 now, can they get a GT200..now? Thats what we really need, companies the update whenever WE feel like it!

 

[Piuc2020]

I guess there are gonna be some updates come Q3 and Q4 though only people with resolutions higher than 1600x1200 (or 1680x1050) should be worried, the 9 series (basically the same as 8 series, only cheaper) have more than enough punch to run everything, sure they struggle with Crysis (not that it can't run it at very high on resolutions like 1280x1024) but games won't catch up to Crysis at least until 2009.

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: KyleGates

Originally posted by: Aberforth
well, there is GT200, they are going to release it as soon as everybody is done with GX2.

Well thats concrete...so GT200 between now and 2011...coo. Wait wait, what about peeps who are done with the Gx2 now, can they get a GT200..now? Thats what we really need, companies the update whenever WE feel like it!

Don't worry nvidia products are not like Playstation, it cannot survive at the top for more than a year.

 

[KyleGates]

Well heres the deal. I have 2 8800GTXs now...I have also just gotten 2 new PCs but neither have vid cards. So I was thinkin id get 2 new cards for my main machine and split up the 8800's to the other two. But if the 9800GTXs are right around the corner I can wait (got a cpl low end cards I could use till then).

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: KyleGates
Well heres the deal. I have 2 8800GTXs now...I have also just gotten 2 new PCs but neither have vid cards. So I was thinkin id get 2 new cards for my main machine and split up the 8800's to the other two. But if the 9800GTXs are right around the corner I can wait (got a cpl low end cards I could use till then).

I've got 8800 GTX's in SLI too...and 9800 GTX isn't faster than GX2.

 

[KyleGates]

I've got 8800 GTX's in SLI too...and 9800 GTX isn't faster than GX2.

And you are basing that statement off of what? Edit----The "9800GTX isnt any faster than a GX2" part......not the "I have 8800s in an SLi" part.

 

[panfist]

Originally posted by: KyleGates

I've got 8800 GTX's in SLI too...and 9800 GTX isn't faster than GX2.

And you are basing that statement off of what? Edit----The "9800GTX isnt any faster than a GX2" part......not the "I have 8800s in an SLi" part.

Because they have release the specs of the 9800GTX already, and based on the specs it will perform about as well as any overclocked 8800GTS...unless the 9800GTX can overclock much higher.

Originally the 8800GTX's distinctive feature was the 384bit memory interface which was downgraded to 256bit. If nvidia really wanted to wow us, they would release the new 9800GTX with higher clocks all around and a 384bit memory interface...but then it would probably WOULD actually be better than the GX2

Their marketing strategy sucks right now. They won't do anything to undermine their "flagship" product, which is already inferior to two old 8800GTX in SLI. The GX2 is basically 8800GTS SLI, which is basically only infinitesimally better than 8800GT SLI, and not much better than 9600GT SLI. And you have to take into account that the only game any of these differences matter is Crysis. I wouldn't expect them to rock the boat...nvidia likes the way the market is now. AMD is not catching up. How can they be catching up when their cards deliver less performance per watt across the board, except in the low-end market? And I don't even hear a whisper from AMD. Until AMD can up the ante again, don't expect any new benchmarking records from Nvidia cards, that haven't been set already.

 

[Genx87]

My guess is 4th quarter you will see the GT200.

 

[KyleGates]

Originally posted by: panfist

Originally posted by: KyleGates

I've got 8800 GTX's in SLI too...and 9800 GTX isn't faster than GX2.

And you are basing that statement off of what? Edit----The "9800GTX isnt any faster than a GX2" part......not the "I have 8800s in an SLi" part.

Because they have release the specs of the 9800GTX already, and based on the specs it will perform about as well as any overclocked 8800GTS...unless the 9800GTX can overclock much higher.

Originally the 8800GTX's distinctive feature was the 384bit memory interface which was downgraded to 256bit. If nvidia really wanted to wow us, they would release the new 9800GTX with higher clocks all around and a 384bit memory interface...but then it would probably WOULD actually be better than the GX2

Their marketing strategy sucks right now. They won't do anything to undermine their "flagship" product, which is already inferior to two old 8800GTX in SLI. The GX2 is basically 8800GTS SLI, which is basically only infinitesimally better than 8800GT SLI, and not much better than 9600GT SLI. And you have to take into account that the only game any of these differences matter is Crysis. I wouldn't expect them to rock the boat...nvidia likes the way the market is now. AMD is not catching up. How can they be catching up when their cards deliver less performance per watt across the board, except in the low-end market? And I don't even hear a whisper from AMD. Until AMD can up the ante again, don't expect any new benchmarking records from Nvidia cards, that haven't been set already.

Thx, that was the response I was lookin for Guess its plan B...stick with the 8800GTXs and grab a 9600GT for each of teh new machines.

 

[apoppin]

Looks like r700 is next - a few months at best - followed shortly by GT200 - and GT200x2 should be the flagship to compete with r700x2

My *guess* .. R700 by June .. GT200 by July

 

[Aberforth]

9800 GTX is going to launch on April Fools Day.

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?55561

 

[stryder256]

poppin: AMD announced in December that the R700 wouldn't be available until 2009 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/v...00_Graphics_Chips.html

Whether that's true is another story...

 

[AzN]

R700 is supposed to be 2nd quarter. Probably June. GT200 is late 3rd quarter or early 4th quarter.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Looks like r700 is next - a few months at best - followed shortly by GT200 - and GT200x2 should be the flagship to compete with r700x2

My *guess* .. R700 by June .. GT200 by July

R700 by June. Doubtful unless you meant June 2009, then maybe.

Although it will probably just be a R600 redo.

After the delays of the last several major launches from ATI I would not believe a release date until the product was shipping from Newegg.

The next fastest GPU will be the 9800GTX. Sadly ATI has yet to put out a GPU that can compete with the old 8800GTX.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: apoppin
Looks like r700 is next - a few months at best - followed shortly by GT200 - and GT200x2 should be the flagship to compete with r700x2

My *guess* .. R700 by June .. GT200 by July

R700 by June. Doubtful unless you meant June 2009, then maybe.

Although it will probably just be a R600 redo.

After the delays of the last several major launches from ATI I would not believe a release date until the product was shipping from Newegg.

The next fastest GPU will be the 9800GTX. Sadly ATI has yet to put out a GPU that can compete with the old 8800GTX.

That's what HD3870 was.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: stryder256
poppin: AMD announced in December that the R700 wouldn't be available until 2009 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/v...00_Graphics_Chips.html

Whether that's true is another story...

That is old news.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: apoppin
Looks like r700 is next - a few months at best - followed shortly by GT200 - and GT200x2 should be the flagship to compete with r700x2

My *guess* .. R700 by June .. GT200 by July

R700 by June. Doubtful unless you meant June 2009, then maybe.

Although it will probably just be a R600 redo.

After the delays of the last several major launches from ATI I would not believe a release date until the product was shipping from Newegg.

The next fastest GPU will be the 9800GTX. Sadly ATI has yet to put out a GPU that can compete with the old 8800GTX.

Which delayS?

i can only think of *one* AMD Graphics Product with multiple delays - it was launched last Spring .. SINCE then, there have been no delays

no, i meant this June - 2008

and who really cares what you 'think' r700 will be? it appears that overpriced GX2 and 9800GTX are "rehashes" .. and i don't hear a single complaint from you.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Azn

That's what HD3870 was.

The 3870 is a mid-range card that gets beat by a $149 9600GT.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Which delayS?

i can only think of *one* AMD Graphics Product with multiple delays - it was launched last Spring .. SINCE then, there have been no delays

I'm talking flagship products, remember the 1800?

no, i meant this June - 2008

The only credible link I have seen so far says 2009.

and who really cares what you 'think' r700 will be?

Obviously you do.

it appears that overpriced GX2 and 9800GTX are "rehashes" .. and i don't hear a single complaint from you.

The fastest cards on the planet, what's to complain about.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: apoppin

Which delayS?

i can only think of *one* AMD Graphics Product with multiple delays - it was launched last Spring .. SINCE then, there have been no delays

I'm talking flagship products, remember the 1800?

Nope .. we didn't have any delayed "1800" - not since last Spring

no, i meant this June - 2008

The only credible link I have seen so far says 2009.

Open your eyes ... your link is incredible and is way out of date

and who really cares what you 'think' r700 will be?

Obviously you do.

it appears that overpriced GX2 and 9800GTX are "rehashes" .. and i don't hear a single complaint from you.

The fastest cards on the planet, what's to complain about.

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i am not complaining; i will have equivalent performance in my rig for way less money

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin


Nope .. we didn't have any delayed "1800" - not since last Spring

No flagship launch since then either.

Open your eyes ... your link is incredible and is way out of date

Post a recent one then.

i am not complaining; i will have equivalent performance in my rig for way less money

If by "equivalent" you mean slower and unable to even play some games. OK there ya go.

 

[apoppin]

yeah .. exactly like GX2 .. you finally got it

agreed on these "sandwich solutions" and Frankenfire

 

[KyleGates]

Wow......so many conflicting reports. Obviously thats to be expected. Anyhow, Ill skip the GX2 but maybe Ill go for a cpl 9800GTXs is they can get me some noticable performance increase over what I have now.