Who's picking up a PSVita at launch?

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KentState

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I see them dropping it to $199 shortly before E3, with it hitting $179 by year end. I don't think the price of the console itself is the problem, it is the ridiculous price of the games.

I'm sure they could offer iPhone/Android quality games for a few dollars. The thing has a touchscreen so they should function exactly the same way. The full games are perfectly acceptable in the $40 range to me. There are few if any phone games that offer the depth of a full console game.
 

Rage187

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I'll buy one if they start doing full game releases. I want exactly the same game I would get on a home console.

Mass Effect 3
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I got the PSP damn near on launch. i was so excited at what the machine could do. but was sadly let down by how Sony handled it. IF not for the lego games wich my son plays my PSP would be sitting in the closet (where i keep the stuff and the charging stations are).

The PSVita had me excited at first. the hardware is fucking amazing and has a lot of potential. I am not happy that i can't play my PSP games. That seems most games are going to be download (i trade games a lot with friends and members here) only. sure it comes with a mem card reader but haven't seen where it will be on it.

Though i am slightly excited about the potential for mods/hacking. can this be turned inot a cheap tablet? I will give it until summer and by then i might get one.

The two bolded statements seem to really contradict each other. You don't use your current PSP for anything yet dock the Vita for not being able to play your games. Doesn't sound like you play them now, why dock the Vita for not playing them either?

Anyhow, in typical fashion, I've put down a pre-order after saying I was going to wait. I have some extra disposable income and decided to pick one up at launch. Now to decide what games and what size memory card to pick up (most likely 8GB).
 

Rage187

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The two bolded statements seem to really contradict each other. You don't use your current PSP for anything yet dock the Vita for not being able to play your games. Doesn't sound like you play them now, why dock the Vita for not playing them either?

or you know, he was talking about the games his kid plays or the ones he used to play and would like to play if he buys a vita.
 
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or you know, he was talking about the games his kid plays or the ones he used to play and would like to play if he buys a vita.

But he has a PSP, so he CAN play them. He's just another in the long line of people who act like backwards-compatibility is the be-all end-all of features for a new console but would never use it even if it existed.
 

Rage187

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But he has a PSP, so he CAN play them. He's just another in the long line of people who act like backwards-compatibility is the be-all end-all of features for a new console but would never use it even if it existed.

sometimes it is just having the option of being able to play your old games that is a selling point. I mean, I have freaking Puzzle Quest 1 on UMD. That game will never get old but I won't be able to use it with the Vita.

Not every company gets it right either. Midnight Club 3 would not play on the 360. I don't know if it was because Rockstar was already thinking about putting a new one out on the next gen or if they didn't feel like going back to make it work. Nonetheless, it pissed me off.
 

waggy

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But he has a PSP, so he CAN play them. He's just another in the long line of people who act like backwards-compatibility is the be-all end-all of features for a new console but would never use it even if it existed.

who said that it was the be-al end all? Its a great thing to have. IF i want to play my PSP games i have i should be able to.

Its a selling point. it helps make a decision on getting it.

Such as i have a ton of PS2 games. when my PS2 died i decided to get a PS3 since its new and it plays my PS2 games. IF it hadn't i wouldn't have pulled the trigger on the PS3 when i did. I would have gotten a new PS2 and been happy.
 

ponyo

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I canceled my pre order. I decided to use my PSP instead and spent $25 on 4gb memory stick and Hot Shot Golf/ Hot Shot Tennis double pack.
 

tornadog

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I sold my wii bundle to make up space and money for this but now I am having second thoughts about getting it on release day.
 

Locut0s

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I'm happy enough with my 3DS for now that I don't see getting a Vita for quite a while if ever. I agree the hardware is amazing though.
 

KentState

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Some of my Vita stuff stated shipping today on Amazon. Seems somewhat early.
 

Aikouka

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Hmm none of mine have shipped yet. I doubt they will until this coming Tuesday.
 

mmntech

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I think the Nintendo DS still did well because of its relatively low price point, and in some ways, smartphones weren't as common back then. I think the Vita and originally the 3DS are simply too high of a price point for most parents to justify it serving as a form of "electronic parenting".

It's not simply just the high price of the hardware too but all the accessories it requires. IMO, not including built in storage was a huge mistake. The second mistake was abandoning established memory card formats (SD and Memory Stick) for a completely proprietary card. Those things should have died out with the PS2. It's ludicrous to ask $100 for a 32gb card. Especially when you can buy a high performance 32gb SSD for almost half that.

The price of the games are comparable to the 3DS, though still much more expensive than iOS and Android games.
 
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It's not simply just the high price of the hardware too but all the accessories it requires. IMO, not including built in storage was a huge mistake. The second mistake was abandoning established memory card formats (SD and Memory Stick) for a completely proprietary card. Those things should have died out with the PS2. It's ludicrous to ask $100 for a 32gb card. Especially when you can buy a high performance 32gb SSD for almost half that.

The price of the games are comparable to the 3DS, though still much more expensive than iOS and Android games.

I think the price of the memory cards are a direct correlation to getting the price of the Vita to an acceptable level. I think they pretty much knew they needed to get it at $250 or under, so the memory card prices are higher as a result. They're making untold money on the memory cards, especially the 16GB and 32GB. The people buying those are helping subsidize the cost of the Vita for the rest of us.

A memory card is essentially required with the Vita (you can't do hardly anything with it without one inserted), so this way they can still have internet forums talk about how the system is $250 but it really costs $270 at the least, $280 for most (since there's no reason to get the 4GB over the 8GB).
 

tornadog

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woohoo my vita FEB shipped today. Tracking # has not updated yet but here's hoping I get it Monday.
 

Aikouka

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It's not simply just the high price of the hardware too but all the accessories it requires. IMO, not including built in storage was a huge mistake. The second mistake was abandoning established memory card formats (SD and Memory Stick) for a completely proprietary card. Those things should have died out with the PS2. It's ludicrous to ask $100 for a 32gb card. Especially when you can buy a high performance 32gb SSD for almost half that.

The price of the games are comparable to the 3DS, though still much more expensive than iOS and Android games.

I think your comparison is a bit off. You should consider them against current flash memory such as SDHC cards, which based on a search are between $30-60 for 32GB (SDHC Class 10). Although, I am curious how good the Vita cards are compared to SDHC. Are they considerably faster? Does it support higher capacities like SDXC does?

I had a 32GB card on pre-order, but I canceled it once Sony added an 8GB card to the 3G bundle. I was going to get a 3G bundle anyway, so now I'll just buy the larger card if I ever run out of space.

I actually think that Sony would do well to push a lot of the popular iOS games onto its console. It certainly has support for pretty much any game because the screen has capacitive touch support, and it's also considerably larger than an iPhone. There are a few games on my iPhone/iPad that I would definitely prefer real joysticks for.

The biggest disappointment for me so far is that Sony announced that they will not have the whole "electronic UMD discount" thing in North America. It allows you to download software to your PSP, put a UMD in, and receive a discount on purchasing a digital copy of the game. I probably have about 12 or so UMDs, so it would be nice to be able to play them on the "better" handheld.

EDIT:

Amazon shipped my travel pouch... yay.
 
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