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coxmaster

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Dec 14, 2007
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I finally gave in and bought this a few days ago..

Sadly, I havent gotten the update yet

Is there a trick to making it update? Hell, i deleted the entire folder and it re-downloaded the "update" and im still on the old version
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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i made a watch and i see new colors for things, like leaves on trees and the sunsets/sunrises, and new music, but how do I make lanterns and where do i get pumpkins?

as far as i know it updates when you log in.
 

Nizology

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Oct 13, 2004
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i made a watch and i see new colors for things, like leaves on trees and the sunsets/sunrises, and new music, but how do I make lanterns and where do i get pumpkins?

as far as i know it updates when you log in.

Just look around a little. You'll see blocks that look like jack-o-lanterns. Yah, it should just update automatically...the new ver. is 1.2.0_01

The sunsets look sweet. I keep rebuilding my world though trying to settle on one I like. :sneaky:
 

duragezic

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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New Findings:
1. Seems like tree leaves don't decay anymore.
2. There are colorful sunsets.
Yeah I hope #1 is just a bug that gets fixed. It's annoying to have to destroy leaves manually. At first I thought people were mistaking leaves with a supported block (like a log or dirt) supporting them all so they don't disappear but since the update leaves don't decay at all.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Yeah I hope #1 is just a bug that gets fixed. It's annoying to have to destroy leaves manually. At first I thought people were mistaking leaves with a supported block (like a log or dirt) supporting them all so they don't disappear but since the update leaves don't decay at all.

i think this was there before the Halloween update. I chopped down many trees a long time ago and the leaves are still there.


I tested out the flint and steel thingy on a block of boards and the fire stayed for hours and was still burning when I quit playing. Is that normal?
 

bigdog1218

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Mar 7, 2001
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I guess I have to disagree with the raving fanboys at minecraft.net, but I think the update is a dud. Some minor changes that could have been rolled out any week are probably the best parts.

The whole hell as a transport is useless because the terrain is so uneven you can't walk in a straight line anywhere. Plus the 20 ghasts that appear and it's quicker to just walk in the normal map.

The redstone burning forever is useful, but could have been placed near to lava or something on the normal map. And now creatures can spawn even in fully lit areas if you're deep enough. This game is turning from a fun lego style building game to a nintendo era arcade game.

Why not actually update and advance the gameplay. Like more uses for gold than a watch, more uses for redstone, more uses for the new yellow stone instead of just converting it back to a block, better cart systems, the ability to make machines/transport. Even something as simple as pullies could be used to create elevators or traps to catch mobs.
 

Nizology

Senior member
Oct 13, 2004
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I guess I have to disagree with the raving fanboys at minecraft.net, but I think the update is a dud. Some minor changes that could have been rolled out any week are probably the best parts.

The whole hell as a transport is useless because the terrain is so uneven you can't walk in a straight line anywhere. Plus the 20 ghasts that appear and it's quicker to just walk in the normal map.

The redstone burning forever is useful, but could have been placed near to lava or something on the normal map. And now creatures can spawn even in fully lit areas if you're deep enough. This game is turning from a fun lego style building game to a nintendo era arcade game.

Why not actually update and advance the gameplay. Like more uses for gold than a watch, more uses for redstone, more uses for the new yellow stone instead of just converting it back to a block, better cart systems, the ability to make machines/transport. Even something as simple as pullies could be used to create elevators or traps to catch mobs.

You do realize the game is still in alpha right? And since you seem to have so many great ideas, why don't you go ahead and email him? He's pretty open to suggestions.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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WOW! WTF!?!?!?!? I was out chopping down trees for a bit and i come back to my house and it it's completely in flames!!!

I'm not sure how it happened. The only thing I can think of is that I had just put a wooden "deck" around the outside area of the 2nd floor of the house and had some torches beneath it and the wood caught on fire? but it doesn't make sense since i have torches on wood and next to wood and right below wood at other places and it never caught fire before...
 

Nizology

Senior member
Oct 13, 2004
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WOW! WTF!?!?!?!? I was out chopping down trees for a bit and i come back to my house and it it's completely in flames!!!

I'm not sure how it happened. The only thing I can think of is that I had just put a wooden "deck" around the outside area of the 2nd floor of the house and had some torches beneath it and the wood caught on fire? but it doesn't make sense since i have torches on wood and next to wood and right below wood at other places and it never caught fire before...

Wouldn't be the first time I've heard of this happening. Just not a good idea to put any flame source near any wood or trees.
 

Barfo

Lifer
Jan 4, 2005
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You do realize the game is still in alpha right? And since you seem to have so many great ideas, why don't you go ahead and email him? He's pretty open to suggestions.
I'm pretty sure he's gotten these and many more suggestions already.
Admittedly, I think I'd like the fixes he suggests better than the new features, but I guess it's better to implement all (or most) of the features that he's planned and then work on fixing the bugs around them.

I haven't had much time to play since the update, I started a new map and I've been mostly exploring my surroundings, most I've done is gather a few wood blocks. But if what bigdog1218 said is true and monsters spawn in fully lit areas if you're deep in a mine then that changes the game a lot, for the bad. Sure I like having to dodge a few monsters while exploring caves and encountering mob spawners and dungeons is fun. But being unable to build an underground castle, house or anything because creepers spawn there and blow it up doesn't sound fun at all.
 

RelaxTheMind

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Oct 15, 2002
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You do realize the game is still in alpha right? And since you seem to have so many great ideas, why don't you go ahead and email him? He's pretty open to suggestions.

if hes working around trying to make/maximize sales you would think he would optimize the gameplay and fix whats broken instead of adding new content that cant thoroughly be enjoyed due to broken mechanics that some individuals have taken upon themselves to fix.

not to mention how it leaves the game completely broken and useless for those who arent computer savvy or dont know how to use google/forums. i know it has an "your buying it as-is" thing going but the fact that fixes might just be sitting there for a beta release is kind of retarded.

as a fellow programmer and in previously working with game designers i know for a fact that fixing broken mechanics is priority over new content.
 

coxmaster

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Dec 14, 2007
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The whole zombies/creepers/whatever else spawning inside a lit cave is really messing me up. I keep running outside to get wood, and once im back down to the bottom of my massive cavern there is always stuff waiting to kill me
 

duragezic

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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i think this was there before the Halloween update. I chopped down many trees a long time ago and the leaves are still there.


I tested out the flint and steel thingy on a block of boards and the fire stayed for hours and was still burning when I quit playing. Is that normal?
No you must have left parts of the tree there. Check out the Leaves page on the Minecraft wiki if you want the details, but basically if there's a leave being supported by a log, dirt, etc, then it's able to support a clump of leaves. So most commonly in multiplayer, people chop part of the tree but leave some of it so the damn leaves are there forever. Once I cleared out all logs and supporting leaves (any touching the ground), the leaves automatically decayed. But since the patch this is no longer true. In singleplayer it's fine because you can use fire to burn the leaves quickly.

Yes the permanent fire is normal. So you can make a fireplace just be VERY careful in a wood house (see the Youtube video "Miencraft Fire WTF??" it's hilarious). I have had times where the fire goes out though but generally you can get it to stay forever.
 

duragezic

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Personally for me, the update is worthless. I'm not one to get all angry over a game update, but just stating that for me the update did nothing. I play on Krakn's server and in a singleplayer world when it's down, but I play on peaceful usually. So between those two, the only thing new I see is the changed leave and grass color.

I've not heard about any fishing nor have I seen any pumpkins. I don't care about the new world really and the part about monsters spawning in less dark sounds like too much.

I suppose if I walked a bit I'd see the biomes which is cool but that and change leaves and grass is not really an update. The rest of the things on the list I don't really see (like new sounds).

I'm more excited to see everything in SMP work like singleplayer, as well as more crafting and building options. Like more ways to do minecarts and travel, etc. Maybe some way to make machines like excavators. I'd rather that then new monsters or anything.
 

Sureshot324

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Feb 4, 2003
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Yeah, this is what I do now. When I first started I went to a top of closest mountain, dug all the way down to bedrock, and started branching out. Found very little, and it was too the point where I needed to find diamonds just so I can build diamond picks to find more diamonds. Not very fun, and I was going to quit when I broke into a natural cave system that is so vast and plentiful, I still have not mapped it all out. I actually have the luxury to pass on iron veins now. Anyways, the entrance ended up on the surface like 1/4 mile away from where I initially started. So I would look for caves first.

Yeah this is why I don't think it's worthwhile specifically mining for diamond. It's only real use is making diamond tools, and you pretty much wear out your diamond pick axe looking for enough diamond to make another one. I just use stone pickaxes.
 

duragezic

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Yeah this is why I don't think it's worthwhile specifically mining for diamond. It's only real use is making diamond tools, and you pretty much wear out your diamond pick axe looking for enough diamond to make another one. I just use stone pickaxes.
Yep I think you're right. In my latest singleplayer game, I've only found 5 diamonds so far. My method has simply been exploring this massive (largest I've found) natural cave as well as a little bit of tunnel/branch mining at the bedrock in the cave (since the cave didn't naturally go down quite that far). While I've found something like 500+ iron blocks, at least 256 redstone, way too much coal, etc... only those 5 diamond so far!

It was different in multi because even if no one gives you anything, I was so used to dropping my tools to have them repaired, so I only needed one diamond tool of each type ever.

As far as tool priority, I actually like my pickaxes to be best type first. I think even stone shovels work pretty quick so I only upgrade to using iron shovels when I have a large amount of iron. Splitting axes are kind of in between. You don't use them as much and they seem to last longer, but the iron definitely helps with chopping speed so I like to get them to iron once I have like 50+ ingots.
 

GaryJohnson

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Jun 2, 2006
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i think this was there before the Halloween update. I chopped down many trees a long time ago and the leaves are still there.

The leaves were definitely decaying before this update. It's making it a pain to clear land for structures. The new biomes are loaded with trees. You either have to clear them by hand which takes forever, or burn them with flint & steel which is highly dangerous. I wonder if notch is aware of this bug. Someone should tweet him as he appears to respond most favorably to tweets. I refuse to sign up for a twitter account.
 
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jacc1234

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Sep 3, 2005
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I just installed a SSD into my laptop and man does it make a difference with minecraft. The game and levels load so quickly now its crazy, who would have thought that such a old school looking game would benefit.

Also, im not looking forward to monsters spawning in my caves. I have the update and build a giant staircase down to bedrock, so far no monsters. I have started mining out from the bottom to see if I can find caverns.

Im not too impressed with the update yet but its better then nothing. Has anyone been fishing yet?
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Sep 29, 2000
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Just an update on my end...
Server is still down (obviously). I have spent a significant amount of time on the phone yelling at Qwest, to no good end. I bought a new DSL modem, a nice, shiny Netgear from Best Buy, but apparently because I'm on a 25Mbit/5Mbit connection, I'm using their new fiber based DSL, or VDSL as they call it, and only 2 modems, the Zyxel q100 (this shitty modem I have right now) and the Actiontec Q1000, work. So I'm having Qwest overnight me a replacement Zyxel because I'm still having issues with my internet connection dying for no reason, usually 2-3 times a day (my problem in total is posted at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25013710-Qwest-25Mbit-5Mbit-connection-keeps-dying-with-Zyxel-q100).

In the meantime, I've taken the server down. I now know that's not what's causing the problem, and I've eliminated the possibility of some sort of attack from the internet causing it. I'm going to swing by Best Buy today to see if they have the Actiontec Q1000 in stock, someone mentioned on DSL Reports that they saw them in stock at a Best Buy in Denver, so we'll see. Otherwise, when I get they Zyxel q100 replacement tomorrow, I'll get it hooked up and test it to see if that makes a difference.

Sorry about the downtime, it kind of sucks. If I can't get this resolved soon, I had a friend offer to host the server, so that might be a way to go. Actually, I may end up taking him up on it anyway just to maintain a sense of stability that I obviously can't provide from a home connection at this point.

I'll update when I know more.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Sep 29, 2000
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I just installed a SSD into my laptop and man does it make a difference with minecraft. The game and levels load so quickly now its crazy, who would have thought that such a old school looking game would benefit.

Also, im not looking forward to monsters spawning in my caves. I have the update and build a giant staircase down to bedrock, so far no monsters. I have started mining out from the bottom to see if I can find caverns.

Im not too impressed with the update yet but its better then nothing. Has anyone been fishing yet?

I had 4 creepers spawn deep in my mining shaft yesterday when I was messing around, scared the crap out of me. I dunno what to make of that, but it does add another level of challenge to the game, which is probably a good thing.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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I'm thinking I'm done with the game now. Maybe I just burnt myself out but I don't feel like mining any more. takes so damn long and i rarely find anything useful.

I've built a house and a big tower and building just doesn't seem fun any more.
 

GaryJohnson

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Jun 2, 2006
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I'm thinking I'm done with the game now.

Zis is not permitted! You will play ze minecraft and you will like it.

Although, I am feeling a bit of the same way you are due to the bugs from the recent update. I'm avoiding going into the nether while the portals aren't syncing up 1 to 1, and I'm avoiding cutting down any trees with the leaves not decaying anymore.

I also don't like the new biome maps compared to the old ones. It seems like I have a lot harder time trying to find decent big plateaus to build on.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Platinum Member
Sep 29, 2000
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Yay, dude called about the modem, $40 for the Q1000, Qwest wanted $100. Picking it up at 6:30 tonight after work.

So excited to HOPEFULLY get this resolved.
 
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