Whose fault when computer crashes?

VBboy

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If your computer crashes, whose fault is it?

Programmers blame the user, the user blames the programmer, the Quality Assurance person,
and the computer. The computer blames its inferior components. I blame you all!

Now, who is responsible for your computer crashing? Are you a bad user? Have you built a
crappy PC? Did you install so much spyware that your Windows can't take it anymore?
 

Cuda1447

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Add your little sisters fault! You let her use it awhile ago and she broke something
 

GroundZero

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it's your damn fault for not shutting down your computer properly!
didn't you listen to Bill?
 

gopunk

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i don't really see how a programmer can blame the user... unless the user is doing stuff like deleting dlls or something....
 

zsouthboy

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Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't really see how a programmer can blame the user... unless the user is doing stuff like deleting dlls or something....

Bwahahaha
 

VBboy

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Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't really see how a programmer can blame the user... unless the user is doing stuff like deleting dlls or something....

The programmer prompts the user to enter the age. The user enters "Anandtech Off Topic rocks!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!". The proram crashes, the user is upset. Programmer blames the user.
 

Electric Amish

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It's too hard to tell.

It's probably most likely a programmer's fault, be it OS, application, or driver programmer.

The only way it's really a user's fault is if they load too much sh!t and just overwhelm the system.

amish
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: VBboy
Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't really see how a programmer can blame the user... unless the user is doing stuff like deleting dlls or something....

The programmer prompts the user to enter the age. The user enters "Anandtech Off Topic rocks!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!". The proram crashes, the user is upset. Programmer blames the user.

that's one dumb programmer then... a reasonable one would have written checks for correct input in the first place.
 

VBboy

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: VBboy
Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't really see how a programmer can blame the user... unless the user is doing stuff like deleting dlls or something....

The programmer prompts the user to enter the age. The user enters "Anandtech Off Topic rocks!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!". The proram crashes, the user is upset. Programmer blames the user.

that's one dumb programmer then... a reasonable one would have written checks for correct input in the first place.

Ok, good. Try this then

The user is running the program and decides to uninstall it without exiting the program. The uninstaller is of course unable to remove the Exe and DLL files in use, and performs a partial uninstallation. The program still tries to run on startup (if configured so), and crashes because some of its files had been uninstalled. Stupid who?
 

gopunk

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Ok, good. Try this then

The user is running the program and decides to uninstall it without exiting the program. The uninstaller is of course unable to remove the Exe and DLL files in use, and performs a partial uninstallation. The program still tries to run on startup (if configured so), and crashes because some of its files had been uninstalled. Stupid who?

more subtle, but i still would blame the programmer... they should have written a check in the uninstall. or had the program write a one-time script to remove the files at the next available opportunity. i think that programmer's should be responsible for making sure that a not-unlikely occurance will not crash the program.

it would of course be the user's fault if they deleted those files themselves because they just felt like deleting something...
 

CaptnKirk

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It's great when there is someone who is a responsible person.
I'm glad thay VBoy is standing proud for being responsible.
 

Ameesh

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If you mean a bugcheck like BSOD it is 99.9999999999999% the fault of a crappy 3rd party device driver. you know those super 1337 detonator drivers you installed etc.

if you are refering to the application crashing it is the application programmers fault.
 

VBboy

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So you people are just beginning to realize that I am directly responsible for almost half of all your computer problems? And I'm the stupid one?
 

Len

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The problems stem from the fact that you chose to write the applications in VB ;-) in the first place.
So yeah... VBboy is to blame fer shoor
 

DaiShan

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Last night I walked into the office to get some paper for the printer in my room, my mom was playing "Spider" with 2 instances open for some reason, explorer, and outlook sending an email, I think my father's account was logged on as well (switch user in XP) and while I'm in there the computer freezes (was on for like 3 days) any ways my mom started getting irate because "you did something it never crashes unless you do something" I'm CompTIA A+ and work after school and some weekends at a local computer shop doing builds and repairing, but I must have done some voodoo on that computer to make it lock up...
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: VBboy
So you people are just beginning to realize that I am directly responsible for almost half of all your computer problems? And I'm the stupid one?

only for putting yourself as an option
 

VBboy

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All it takes is some faulty RAM for any version of Windows to crap up. I had XP with a bad stick of Corsair, and the thing would BSOD every few hours, usually in IE. I replaced the stick and it became rock solid. I think people underestimate the power of a bad piece of hardware
 
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