Rant Why America is descending into chaos - liberal policies against law enforcement

[HomerJS]

Oh, adding to the increased climate of violence in this country...
Trump Ordered Staff to ‘Bust Some Heads’ of Black Lives Matter Protesters Outside White House: Book (msn.com)

 

[woolfe9998]

That is the liberal solution to everything ..... stop enforcing the law....

- Let all the illegals in and do not enforce immigration law. We need people to do menial labor and if they dont, threaten deportation. Those who are waiting to immigrate lawfully can just keep waiting.

Trump reduced legal immigration substantially during his term. Let's not pretend this is all about legal v illegal and merely enforcing the law. It's about pure nativism: people just don't want foreigners coming here, especially the brown types. This is a longstanding American tradition going back to the know-nothings in the 19th century.

Most liberals do not support open borders. They just don't want a massive $50 billion+ border wall.

- Legalize pot and /or do not prosecute possession of small amounts of drug possession. The jails are full of harmless addicts who do not steal or commit crime to support their habits.

Legalizing pot is changing the law, not failing to enforce it.

Liberals want court ordered treatment for minor drug offenses. Please provide any sort of data or evidence of any kind that mass incarceration of people for possession of small amount of illicit drugs is a superior policy. We've been doing it for decades and addiction rates have not declined.

- Let retail theft under $950 be a non jail-able offense. Just write them a ticket if we even bother with that much. They are only stealing to survive anyway.

Petty theft is a misdemeanor in every state. Always has been. The cutoff amount changes over time due to inflation. What ever gave you the impression that you face jail time for a first offense of petty theft? In the states with the toughest sentencing, you might do a few days at most. In CA, however, petty theft with a prior petty theft is chargeable as a felony.

- If someone cannot afford bail, let them go under personal recognizance. Surely they wont commit more crime!!

I don't agree with some policy suggestions from the left regarding bail. In CA prop 25 was defeated last year so I'm not really sure what you're on about.

In many countries people are fleeing, the problems in their country are made worse by LACK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

In many countries (not all), the police are corrupt, the legal system is broken or cannot effectively deal with criminal gangs / drug cartels / etc.

Which has fuck-all to do with the liberal policies you're complaining about. In Mexico, the cartels go unchecked because they literally partner with law enforcement and government at all levels. You have some evidence that democrats are partnering with organized crime? Of course you don't.

Yawn.

 

[Pohemi]

In my case (which was not a home burglary) the officer flat out refused to report anything at all.

That surprises me a fair amount more than them simply not following with any actual investigative effort (as expected, imo). If he refused to file a report, how were you supposed to file a claim with your insurance? Insurance companies always want a police report on the claimed theft/incident.

I'm guessing one of two possibilities: 1) item in question was of negligible value, and/or 2) the officer was extremely lazy with a give-a-shit attitude and didn't want to fill out a form.

 

[Leeea]

If he refused to file a report, how were you supposed to file a claim with your insurance? Insurance companies always want a police report on the claimed incident.

I never even thought about that. I did not have insurance on the out buildings, their contents, etc.

I had other items stolen over the years, mainly small power tools. This was the first time I could prove conclusively who did it. The guy took a weber gas grill, which I had a photo of, and he left some of the parts behind including one of the wheels it stands on.

 

[hal2kilo]

That is the liberal solution to everything ..... stop enforcing the law....



- Let all the illegals in and do not enforce immigration law. We need people to do menial labor and if they dont, threaten deportation. Those who are waiting to immigrate lawfully can just keep waiting.

- Legalize pot and /or do not prosecute possession of small amounts of drug possession. The jails are full of harmless addicts who do not steal or commit crime to support their habits.

- Let retail theft under $950 be a non jail-able offense. Just write them a ticket if we even bother with that much. They are only stealing to survive anyway.

- If someone cannot afford bail, let them go under personal recognizance. Surely they wont commit more crime!!

In many countries people are fleeing, the problems in their country are made worse by LACK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. In many countries (not all), the police are corrupt, the legal system is broken or cannot effectively deal with criminal gangs / drug cartels / etc.


And it starts with allowing criminals to go unpunished.


This is why retail stores are being closed in liberal havens such as San Francisco. Why pay for something when you can just steal it? Forget the Ten Commandments. Forget the law. A 100% discount 24x7x365 simply cannot be beat! And no one will stop me! - unless they close the store.

Now emboldened, smash and grab flash mobs are terrorizing brick and mortar retailers.


Wake up liberals -

The solution is MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT, not LESS.

Stop watching Fox.

 

[Roger Wilco]

It seems like most of the “chaos” these days derives from white nationalism.

 

[MrSquished]

Stop watching Fox.

Really he should just stop being himself

 

[Medicine Head]

That surprises me a fair amount more than them simply not following with any actual investigative effort (as expected, imo). If he refused to file a report, how were you supposed to file a claim with your insurance? Insurance companies always want a police report on the claimed theft/incident.

I'm guessing one of two possibilities: 1) item in question was of negligible value, and/or 2) the officer was extremely lazy with a give-a-shit attitude and didn't want to fill out a form.

If it was the 2nd reason, that police officer should either get fired or be sent back to training.

 

[Medicine Head]

Really he should just stop being himself

What a great inference Zombienoobat1. if Felix the Pyramid cat stopped being himself he would stop being the crazy type of Trump supporter he has been.

 

[ivwshane]

1. El Cerrito. I believe this was a decision made by the DA. My information came from the officers on the scene.
2. So what? Does that lend some justification to the act?
3. They could knock on doors and see if anyone has security camera footage of the crime, perhaps come up with a license plat number. This is called "police work". When this happens around here they hit the whole neighborhood, not just my truck.

Good god! So a police officer told you something and you immediately took it as gospel instead of doing the very minimum of fact checking them?

I’m guessing you are really old as no one with a decent head on their shoulders would believe such nonsense without doing some basic research.

Nothing about not prosecuting cases of any kind when the evidence is present.

FAQs • What is the role of the District Attorney? Why doesn’

www.el-cerrito.org

 

[himkhan]

Stock prices must be down when the Felix account is fired back up.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

It's always these old limp dicks advocating for a police state. But somehow mask and vaccine mandates are the real threat to their freedumbs. Their brains are so full of fuck, there is no hope for them. Fortunately, it seems like the majority of young people are rejecting their madness. Time is the only cure for what's wrong with this country.

 

[K1052]

Yes, I'm sure they are going to task their investigative division to track down and solve a car break in. (hint: they will not, and neither will any police force anywhere in the country)

Even if they did, there's no point in responding to you directly - you don't have any information!

We had somebody drive a stolen car through a cinderblock wall to get at an ATM and the cops wouldn't come out even with the alarm going off. A manager had to go to the station to fill out a report so we could file the insurance claim.

Yep, I'm sure they'll get right on Greenman's vehicle break in.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Stock prices must be down when the Felix account is fired back up.

Stocks are up, housing prices are up, crypto is up.....crime is also sky rocketing.

When criminals are in control and people no longer feel safe outside their homes, that means its time to start throwing more people in jail and keeping them there for a period of time. And while there it should be mandatory that they learn some life skills and be treated for drug abuse if applicable.

Also, we should allow reformed criminals a clearer path back to work and not hold their past against them if they have demonstrated they are no longer a threat to society. Staying out of jail and finding some sort of productive pursuit in life would be an example.

But giving into crime is wrong headed and foolish.

 

[outriding]

Stocks are up, housing prices are up, crypto is up.....crime is also sky rocketing.

When criminals are in control and people no longer feel safe outside their homes, that means its time to start throwing more people in jail and keeping them there for a period of time. And while there it should be mandatory that they learn some life skills and be treated for drug abuse if applicable.

Also, we should allow reformed criminals a clearer path back to work and not hold their past against them if they have demonstrated they are no longer a threat to society. Staying out of jail and finding some sort of productive pursuit in life would be an example.

But giving into crime is wrong headed and foolish.

So I decided to look at the claims u were making in the first post

I loooked at your first example. And it is completely false. There is nothing close to what you said and what really happened.

so what really happened the law was modified to change the dollar amount between what is a felony and misdemeanor

Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California

The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J.

apnews.com

This such blatant lying this thread should be locked

 

[feralkid]

So I decided to look at the claims u were making in the first post

I loooked at your first example. And it is completely false. There is nothing close to what you said and what really happened.

so what really happened the law was modified to change the dollar amount between what is a felony and misdemeanor

Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California

The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J.

apnews.com

This such blatant lying this thread should be locked

And the author of these lies should curl his tail between his legs and self-quarantine.


Felix De Shameless Liar.



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[Sheik Yerbouti]

That is the liberal solution to everything ..... stop enforcing the law....



- Let all the illegals in and do not enforce immigration law. We need people to do menial labor and if they dont, threaten deportation. Those who are waiting to immigrate lawfully can just keep waiting.

- Legalize pot and /or do not prosecute possession of small amounts of drug possession. The jails are full of harmless addicts who do not steal or commit crime to support their habits.

- Let retail theft under $950 be a non jail-able offense. Just write them a ticket if we even bother with that much. They are only stealing to survive anyway.

- If someone cannot afford bail, let them go under personal recognizance. Surely they wont commit more crime!!

In many countries people are fleeing, the problems in their country are made worse by LACK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. In many countries (not all), the police are corrupt, the legal system is broken or cannot effectively deal with criminal gangs / drug cartels / etc.


And it starts with allowing criminals to go unpunished.


This is why retail stores are being closed in liberal havens such as San Francisco. Why pay for something when you can just steal it? Forget the Ten Commandments. Forget the law. A 100% discount 24x7x365 simply cannot be beat! And no one will stop me! - unless they close the store.

Now emboldened, smash and grab flash mobs are terrorizing brick and mortar retailers.


Wake up liberals -

The solution is MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT, not LESS.

Does it hurt to be this willfully stupid? Because it should.

 

[uclaLabrat]

This is why no one cares felix:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/

This is just the cops. Now imagine what happens when you factor in wage theft. Sure, all the visuals of the smash and grabs make for great fear mongering, but there are much bigger underlying issues.

 

[FelixDeCat]

So I decided to look at the claims u were making in the first post

I loooked at your first example. And it is completely false. There is nothing close to what you said and what really happened.

so what really happened the law was modified to change the dollar amount between what is a felony and misdemeanor

Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California

The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J.

apnews.com

This such blatant lying this thread should be locked

You "loooked" at my first example and its completely false?

My first example stated that it was a "non jail-able offense", meaning that you would only get a ticket for shop lifting, assuming they even bother to do that, which in many places they do not.

Nice try though.

 

[FelixDeCat]

This is why no one cares felix:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/

This is just the cops. Now imagine what happens when you factor in wage theft. Sure, all the visuals of the smash and grabs make for great fear mongering, but there are much bigger underlying issues.

I have railed against civil forfeiture laws run amok. The previous president did make some changes to reign this in.

But to compare civil forfeiture to blatant theft and smash and grab robberies is absurd.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Does it hurt to be this willfully stupid? Because it should.

Actually I was quite accurate in describing whats wrong these days. While some have disagreed and support liberal soft-on-crime policies, they are ignoring the damage that it is causing by encouraging even more crime.

 

[outriding]

You "loooked" at my first example and its completely false?

My first example stated that it was a "non jail-able offense", meaning that you would only get a ticket for shop lifting, assuming they even bother to do that, which in many places they do not.

Nice try though.

Prior to Prop47 shoplifting up to 450 was a non jailable offense aka misdemeanor Now it is it is up to 950 that is the only difference


Nowhere in prop 47mentioned that cops will not perform their duty going after shoplifting at any dollar amount

Btw welcome to 2014

 

[ch33zw1z]

Actually I was quite accurate in describing whats wrong these days. While some have disagreed and support liberal soft-on-crime policies, they are ignoring the damage that it is causing by encouraging even more crime.

You have an opinion based on your feels, nobody is required to agree

 

[Fanatical Meat]

@FelixDeCat how do they handle street crime in Russia?

 

[HomerJS]

In case the OP or other lunatics think Democratic policies are linked to gun homicides. Here is a chart I found ranking by state. Note the states at the top

Rank	State	Firearm deaths per 100k people, 2019	Total firearm deaths, 2019	Background checks per 100k people, 2020	1-yr. change in background checks (%)
1	Mississippi	23.7	705	12,326	53.9
2	Alaska	23.0	168	13,526	28.6
3	Wyoming	22.5	130	15,790	49.1
4	Alabama	21.8	1,071	22,138	57.3
5	New Mexico	21.8	457	9,836	31.5
6	Louisiana	21.5	999	9,261	52.5
7	Missouri	20.2	1,239	11,539	42.2
8	South Carolina	19.4	1,001	10,312	61.8
9	Arkansas	18.7	563	10,761	46.7
10	Tennessee	18.6	1,270	14,420	55.0
11	Montana	18.3	196	16,158	49.1
12	Oklahoma	18.2	719	11,885	30.6
13	Georgia	16.0	1,695	8,515	67.7
14	West Virginia	16.0	286	14,826	28.9
15	Nevada	15.7	483	7,121	70.9
16	Arizona	15.6	1,136	9,143	78.4
17	Kentucky	14.9	667	74,546	-19.2
18	Colorado	14.4	832	11,817	44.9
19	Indiana	14.1	952	28,751	33.4
20	Ohio	13.5	1,578	8,356	53.0
21	Idaho	13.5	241	15,740	34.4
22	Kansas	13.4	390	8,567	49.4
23	Florida	13.4	2,872	8,903	59.9
24	North Carolina	13.3	1,397	8,489	67.9
25	Oregon	13.2	556	12,236	44.3
26	Texas	12.7	3,683	8,019	56.4
27	Maryland	12.5	753	5,005	103.3
28	South Dakota	12.3	109	13,050	35.1
29	Michigan	12.0	1,200	10,699	117.1
30	Pennsylvania	11.9	1,528	11,349	47.1
31	Virginia	11.9	1,014	9,648	60.6
32	Utah	11.9	380	37,953	47.8
33	Maine	11.7	157	10,203	51.3
34	North Dakota	11.7	89	11,215	41.5
35	New Hampshire	11.2	152	12,846	55.7
36	Washington	10.9	830	10,262	28.7
37	Illinois	10.7	1,362	58,832	50.6
38	Wisconsin	10.2	595	12,566	67.9
39	Nebraska	10.0	194	5,403	53.2
40	Vermont	9.5	59	9,289	61.7
41	Delaware	9.2	90	7,913	66.0
42	Iowa	8.9	282	8,577	48.0
43	Minnesota	8.2	463	16,994	40.5
44	California	7.5	2,945	4,052	29.1
45	Connecticut	5.1	183	6,149	26.8
46	Rhode Island	4.2	45	4,849	111.1
47	New Jersey	4.1	366	2,003	94.9
48	New York	4.1	794	2,611	42.9
49	Hawaii	3.9	55	1,420	58.7
50	Massachusetts	3.4	237	3,810	23.7

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