Why are cars faster than motorcycles?

olds

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One of the reasons I like to ride is that I can out accelerate all cars. Getting on the freeway is a breeze.
 

CZroe

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One of the reasons I like to ride is that I can out accelerate all cars. Getting on the freeway is a breeze.
This. Even my dinky Ninja 250 ("LOL! Girls bike!" :roll eyes is quicker off the line than most cars. I lived right off a metered freeway ramp on I-15 in San Diego and spent the first three years commuting on it daily. Never had a single issue merging from a standstill.
 

mnewsham

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Bikes have faster acceleration, cars can have a higher top speed.

only true for cheaper bikes, if you spend over $10k you can get a bike to hit 180+Mph no problem, try buying a car that will do that for that cheap.
 

madoka

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I was thinking about this the other day. Back in my day I used to drool over the AMG Hammer which did 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. Now Camrys are close to doing that and cars have reached a point where they can be faster than motorcycles.

For example, the Alpha Omega GT-R:

Quarter Mile: 7.984 @ 186.14MPH

0-60mph: 1.72 Seconds

0-100mph: 3.03 Seconds

So I wonder in 30 years if production cars are going to be this insanely fast.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Back in 1999 the Hayabusa almost hit 200 mph. I hit 197, albeit with a tailwind.

The European supercar companies realized that within a couple years at most, motorcycles would officially break that magic number and put pressure on the EU to make sure that wouldn't happen. So in 2000 the EU declared that new motorcycles would be speed limited to 300 kph or 186 mph. Ferrari et al having hamstrung the hyperbike market left the worlds motorcycles with a conundrum. Either they had to limit all bikes to 300kph or make two machines of each model, one of which would be crippled. Obviously it's cheaper to hobble everything, so that's what happened. That left me with the bragging rights for owning the fastest production motorcycle that was ever, or will ever, be produced

Sadly, the engine design had a flaw and a couple years back now I had to put it down. The cost of getting it running considerably exceeded the value of the machine. Ah well, it was fun.
 

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I've seen quite a few bikes get a schooling by a few cars. Sure it's rare but there are a few out there that can outrun a bike.

I guess this is all about straight-line. What about through a set of twisty curves? When I was young and had my Kawasaki I always thought I was probably a lot faster through turns than a car. You're leaning over and it seems really fast, but now I am not so sure. I think a car with more weight and rubber on the road is probably faster through turns.
 

Rakehellion

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only true for cheaper bikes, if you spend over $10k you can get a bike to hit 180+Mph no problem, try buying a car that will do that for that cheap.

That's nothing. For $30, I can jump off the Empire State Building and go even faster than that. Show me a bike that will do that for that cheap.
 

mikeford

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200 MPH in a car takes something like 600 rwhp, which is not all that expensive. What is expensive is the suspension etc to allow reasonable safety at 200 MPH. Over 150 MPH minor imperfections in the road surface can cause serious problems.
 

mnewsham

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That's nothing. For $30, I can jump off the Empire State Building and go even faster than that. Show me a bike that will do that for that cheap.

No actually you couldn't terminal velocity is only about 170Mph and that's with optimum posture, if you spread your arms out and such you'd have much more air resistance and be going even slower.
 

mikeford

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That's nothing. For $30, I can jump off the Empire State Building and go even faster than that. Show me a bike that will do that for that cheap.

Your 0-50 time might be good, but top speed is unlikely to exceed about 100 MPH.
 

manimal

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I have seen a civic beat a turbo busa. Have also seen a twin turbo thunder chicken with ebay turbos beat a lingenfelter twin turbo vette.

Hwy pulls are the great equalizer.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Corvette Z06
Nissan GT-R
Ford GT500
Dodge SRT Viper

Actually...

I was in Falls River, MA on a main drag and some guy pulled up next to me in a Viper and decided that he wanted to play. I wasn't interested, after all what was the point? I did glance over and saw what seemed to be a guy not even 25 with an incredible sneer. I had just pulled out of Vanson Leathers, a popular place, and he probably spanked a number of Harleys and maybe some 400cc sporty bikes.

Little did he know...

Now this street was two lanes each way and we were both first in line at the red light. I raised my visor and said "You don't want to do this. You'll hate your car after". Well he couldn't back down if he ever intended to, which is exactly what I wanted.

The light changes and we're off. I positioned myself so I could see that smirk growing in his side mirror as he slowly pulled away. Then what I waited for happened. The look changed to an immense grin. He knew he beat me. "Snick, snick", down two gears and I passed him like he never moved.

We stopped at the next red light and I looked dead ahead. As it was about to change I put up my visor and said "I told you you'd hate your car" and hung a left.

Smirk to smile to victory grin to snarl in 30 seconds.

It was beautiful day.
 
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