Why are critic reviews of CoD: Black Ops so good but customer reviews so bad?

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paperfist

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I believe Activision no longer ships out review copies of their Call of Duty series, instead they invite the reviewers to come to Activision's HQ where they can play the game on-site during a 'Call of Duty is the greatest game ever Extravaganza!!'.

Either the review website agrees to this and reviews the game under these ridiculous circumstances, or they wait until the game launches and purchase a retail copy for review, which means they lose tons of views based on the fact they don't have a review up for the latest Call of Duty game.

If you've ever seen what these amatuer vlog'ers on YouTube pull in for subscribers/views by simply uploading their Call of Duty videos w/commentary, you can imagine how damaging it would be for a review site to not have that review ready to go on launch day.

Man if that's true we need to get Glenn Beck in on this propaganda machine! Even with review copies I wouldn't be surprised to learned they were fixed. I mean Anand runs into hardware all the time that's nothing like the shipping version. Some have accused Firaxis with shipping Civ V with an AI that was nothing like the one witnessed in beta.
 

Texashiker

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My son has what might be considered a low-mid range system. Its only a dual core amd 245 at 2.9ghz, 2 gigs 800mhz memory, windows xp service pack 3, ATI 4650 video card, and a cable modem that gets 400kb up and maybe 1.5mb download. During multi-player he gets terrible frame rates. In left 4 dead 2, fortress forever and left 4 dead he probably gets 50 - 90 fps. In online black ops, it looks like he gets 20fps.

While I agree that special promotions might get good reviews from professional critics, I dont think that is going to influence "all" critic reviews. A lot of complaints I see is framerate issues with online play.

From what I have seen, black ops looks like a good game - my son loves it. But it also looks like I'am gonna have to upgrade his system to get the game to run like it should. So maybe you need a top end machine and super fast internet connection to play the game with no frame rate issues?
 
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pmv

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Game reviewing has been a complete joke for at least 15 years now, and it's getting worse. Pay no attention to professional review scores - particularly for high-budget franchises.

Can't disagree with this at all.

I know nothing about this particular game (soldier sims are not my thing) and I'm sure user opinion is more mixed than it appears (haters usually seem more vocal than people who like something).

But video/PC game reviewing is a bit of a joke, its not really a serious activity like book reviewing, its part of the PR industry if anything. Mind you, back when I used to read the music press the same was true of music reviews - the difference being that at least music reviewers generally gave every sign of knowing it was all a bit of a joke and would just aim to be entertaining.
 

shortylickens

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Game reviewing has been a complete joke for at least 15 years now, and it's getting worse. Pay no attention to professional review scores - particularly for high-budget franchises.

I dunno about complete joke for 15 years, but its been pretty unreliable for 10 and after Doom 3 I dont trust them at all.
Then there was the bullshit at Gamespot when it became public knowledge that reviewers would get fired for giving bad ratings.
 

shortylickens

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Crap, I just realized that Far Cry actually came out before Doom 3. And not only was it a better game, it was much prettier as well. So by whichever standards you use, Far Cry should have received better reviews than Doom 3. Since Ubi wasnt the powerhouse it is now, I guess they couldnt swing the votes.
 

Texashiker

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I dunno about complete joke for 15 years, but its been pretty unreliable for 10 and after Doom 3 I dont trust them at all.
Then there was the bullshit at Gamespot when it became public knowledge that reviewers would get fired for giving bad ratings.

After Quake 2, I stopped trusting so called "professional reviewers". Doom 3 and Quake 4 were just the icing on the cake.

One of the few exceptions is PC Gamer - I find most of their reviews to be pretty close to my own opinion. I even subscribe to their magazine from time to time.
 

BeauJangles

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While I do agree that professional reviewers tend to be more favorable towards games because they're tied so closely to the gaming industry, consumers are pushed in the opposite direction.

Consumers are far more likely to go online and bitch and moan about a bad product than they are to go online and sings its praises.
 

Modular

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Crap, I just realized that Far Cry actually came out before Doom 3. And not only was it a better game, it was much prettier as well. So by whichever standards you use, Far Cry should have received better reviews than Doom 3. Since Ubi wasnt the powerhouse it is now, I guess they couldnt swing the votes.

This.
 

PieIsAwesome

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Gamers are also to blame for farce reviews.

But it does illustrate what happens when a writer for a high-profile outlet chooses to address a game critically - I mean when he or she functions as a critic instead of simply a reviewer. All too often the backlash is severe and ugly. It suggests that, for a sizable portion of the gaming audience, genuine criticism is perceived as inappropriate, unnecessary, or even unprofessional.

http://www.brainygamer.com/the_brainy_gamer/2010/09/backlash.html
 

Texashiker

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It suggests that, for a sizable portion of the gaming audience, genuine criticism is perceived as inappropriate, unnecessary, or even unprofessional.
Probably because most gamers think they know it all. Or,,,, they can not think for themselves.

The other day I posted a comment to a thread on the steam forums asking "what was the best gaming mouse." Oh man, you should have seen the backlash when I commented that some mice have poor designs. People started calling my fingers too short,,,,,,. There have been other backlashes to my comments on games like doom 3 and quake 4 - specifically about their level design.

When half-life was released, I see that as the death to "find the key" game design like doom and quake. The straight through design was a lot easier to play then having to wonder around looking for some stupid pda's or keys to open the next level. But I post that kind of stuff, I get a lot of rude comments.

Games should be like cars or trucks - I can tell you "why" I do not like ford or chevy and "why" I prefer toyota.

But when people apply that same logic to games - I can tell you "exactly why" I do not like doom 3 and quake 4, and "exactly why" I like half-life and left 4 dead, people seem to backlash against my opinions.

Why is it not ok to state your own personal opinion about a product?

I think a lot of it goes back to herd mentality - follow the herd, or else. This puts people who can think for themselves between a rock and a hard place. Post your honest opinion and deal with the backlash. Or follow the herd and leave the statuesque where it is.
 

NYHoustonman

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I tend to agree more with 'professional' reviews than those from users, FWIW. Gamerankings' aggregate scores typically mirror my own feelings about games (one notable exception being Mafia 2, which I enjoyed more than its 76% would suggest).

There are users who are so convinced of their own superior tastes that any argument turns into "you just don't remember the good ol' days (all new games suck)"; I try to ignore that crowd, and find them at least as annoying as the supposed paid reviewers.

Black Ops' single player, to me, was short but good - better than MW2, but nowhere near MW. Not worth $60, but reasonable at $40-45.
 

BladeVenom

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ZPIGS!

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Why are critic reviews of CoD: Black Ops so good but customer reviews so bad?
i sent mine back and i love the cod franchise..i thought the original cod4 was goty for 2007..logged 98 hours just playing sp missions again and again..(i play bf for mp)

anyway maybe these "journalists" have been paid off?!

maybe they never even played it lol?!
 

ZPIGS!

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Correct.

Mediocre single player combined with uninspired multiplayer featuring tiny claustrophobic 1997-tech maps FTMFL.

BFBC2 is twenty times the game BLOPS is, and I don't even like BC2 that much (prefer to wait for the full meat and potatoes BF3).
i think if bf3 turns out to be shit, there's gonna be a lot of broken stuff worldwide lol!

i even paid top dollar for ther god-awful moh4 just to get beta key for bf3 testing, still waiting zzz

btw, 1605 hours in bf2

http://secure.xfire.com/profile/zpigs/



btw, liking the vietnam mod..great maps

(esp when my pc dont hang grr)
 

Cstefan

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I think I missed the exact moment when everyone was pissing themselves with joy over blops suddenly became an angry mob.
 

Sureshot324

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i think if bf3 turns out to be shit, there's gonna be a lot of broken stuff worldwide lol!

i even paid top dollar for ther god-awful moh4 just to get beta key for bf3 testing, still waiting zzz

btw, 1605 hours in bf2

http://secure.xfire.com/profile/zpigs/



btw, liking the vietnam mod..great maps

(esp when my pc dont hang grr)

93 hours in COD4 single player? Lol did you beat the game like 15 times?
 

Sureshot324

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Consumers rate things differently than magazines and review web sites. If you want to see a stark difference in ratings, check the metacritic score for CoD MW2 for PC. Main reason for that (and it used to be an even lower user score than it is now, if I remember correctly) was the whole dedicated servers issue. People don't have to be objective in rating a game, and something like a feeling of betrayal from a change in core mechanics or just a lack of changes overall for the $60 price tag of the new game are enough to get people to throw out a 2 or a 3. I won't go into the tons of scenarios and differences between how a "professional" critic rates a game versus an end user, but suffice to say that they dont use the same metrics, and thats how you can end up with different scores.

Agreed. COD: BO is a fun game with some major flaws. If it was just a bad game people would just not play it, but since it is fun enough to keep playing, those flaws piss people off enough so they will take their anger out by posting ridiculous 1/10 review scores.
 
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