Why are Indian people very competative and get jealous easily?

[athithi]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

By suggesting that it's "ironic" that an American is lecturing an Indian about materialism, you're suggesting that it's really the other way around. What you just did is claim that stereotyping is wrong, and then you threw in your own stereotype, only opposite of what I said.

You lose.

I didn't say hypocritic. I said ironic. Look up the meaning and slap yourself upside for claiming that I was stereotyping Americans. Just pointing out an incorrect, but common, stereotype that Americans are materialistic is vastly different from subscribing to that stereotype. You are not very good at this, bud.

You obviously do not understand what political correctness means. Of course now that I've pointed that out, you're going to head over to Wikipedia, read about it, and try to rebut me with information that's very detailed, yet conflicting with what you said the first time in typical ATOT fashion.

Also, your tone only reinforces the stereotype. It seems you have a bone to pick.

You lose again.

So, what were you saying about the caste system, once again? Oh, sorry, were you trying to distract me from that blunder of yours? Heh, you are still not any good at this

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I've noticed this. It's pretty much common knowledge around here in NJ, which has a large Indian population.

Growing up, it was really pointed out to me by my best friend, who is Indian. He told me that it's mostly Indian vs. Indian jealousy, and that others won't be as affected by it as bad as they are.

One example is that when he buys something new, he doesn't like other Indians seeing it, because it'll be the talk of the town in his parents' social circle. I thought he was being paranoid but he turned out to be right on many occasions. Also, the whole marriage thing was a dealbreaker to him. In his parent's social circle, they tried their best to hook him up with their friend's daughters. He ignored it and ended up marrying an American.

Their culture is rooted in maintaining social classes and materialism. The one and only Indian that he was dating a while back was smoking hot, nice, and seemed smart. His parents demanded that he terminate the relationship when they found out her last name. Apparently she came from a line of peasants and seemstresses, while his last name denoted that people in his lineage were landowners.

I'm Sikh. Not very competitive. I'm not very brown either, I think surroundings are key. I went to low brown populace schools my whole life and I dont drink and start fights etc.

About the whole marriage thing thats too funny lol. That's what is called "caste". Us Sikhs do not believe in it, but I find it quite humorous. Call me hypocritical but I would not marry a lower class than a Jatt either, it's one of those things (Jatt is punjabi for landowner).

The thing is though, I'm allowed to marry any girl I love, white black or brown. My parents have been here for 35 years, came here in 72/73. They don't give a rats ass about who's competing with them, because they do not believe in it.

My father went from working class to retired in 95 and ever since our neighbours have stopped talking to us and have (In my OPINION) tried to keep up with us. A general trend was: Dad get's an ML320, they end up getting a crv (This was in 99, lol). Then my dad ends up buying a Lexus RX330 in 2005 October, they end up getting an Escalade SXT. My dad bought a Mercedes Benz E320 4matic March 06 and they end up getting a Jaguar X type.

I laugh at competition, because if you compete with other people you'll become a wreck. There's no end, and thats what my parents taught me when I was young, that you cannot make everyone happy or that there is never an end to material desires as it just keeps getting higher. Once you "beat" someone, there will be a new cat on the block who may be even "better" than you and "richer".

I think it is an indian thing, because I see it alot amongst other families, I admire my parents for not even being rattled, then again they've been here in Canada longer than 99 percent of the Indians in this country.

Competition is just the beginning of insanity - Myself (I wish John Lennon said that so people would say WHOA DUDE COOL),

 

[delco007]

Well i am an Indian , sitting here is New Delhi . i couldnt believe it that you guys sitting over there have got this much time to discuss things in such a huge thread . i tried to read the thread but got BOOOOOOOORED and Tired of the repetitive pattern.
Be4 i leave i would jot down up with a single comment about the jealousy and competetiveness thing : If you have are facing such acts of atrocity from any of your neighbours ( be it Indian , Chinese , American or whatever ) why dont you sit across a table and make a plain point to them that you dont want anymore of the rubbish .


Either they will understand you or they will stop talking to you thinking that you are not interested in being friends with them .

Guru .

Excuse me for any grammatical mistakes , I am an Indian ;-)

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: athithi
*snipped*

Most of the other Indians on this thread handle themselves well and seem respectable. You don't. Then again, there are punkasses in any group.

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: delco007


Excuse me for any grammatical mistakes , I am an Indian ;-)

Eh? There does not exist any stereotype that Indians make grammatical mistakes so stop fueling a new one man

I do hate it though when Indian teenagers type in short hand. For example: "v r goin 2 the party to haf fun and get drunk wid our pals. Da party iz goin to rawk".. They think they are being cool but alas!..

*cough* got a little sidestrack.. continue people!! Lets try and reach 25 pages!!

I laugh at competition, because if you compete with other people you'll become a wreck. There's no end, and thats what my parents taught me when I was young, that you cannot make everyone happy or that there is never an end to material desires as it just keeps getting higher. Once you "beat" someone, there will be a new cat on the block who may be even "better" than you and "richer".

Touche.. I'm glad that my parents taught me that too ..

 

[MagicConch]

Originally posted by: thesurge

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: BOLt

This trait is largely an environmental one. It's not because of race or ethnicity. Replace "Indian" in the OP with Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. and add the word "some" or "many", and you will have a valid statement. It is also because of philosophical factors imparted from parents and, to a lesser extent, peers. This trait can be seen in all races and ethnicities.

Addressing the OP, I think that particular couple bothers you a lot, so you've made some associations. It's natural, and I am glad that you have expressed your thoughts, but I hope that you will re-consider your experience as being representative of an entire ethnicity.

I speak from personal experience, as I am Indian and I have written essays and thought about this subject in great detail. I am not the absolute authority, but my words are not naive or ignorant, as some of the other posters have been.

It sounds like you are ignoring reality and are trying to take the moral high ground by spouting pre-canned PC nonsense.

You're making it seem as if traits and habits don't travel along ethnic lines.

You have a group of people (Indians) who had a caste system for a very long time. Class and materialism are part of their heritage. Of course they're going to be competitive.


I once argued with some ultra PC (liberal) guy who tried to tell me that there's no genetic difference between black people and white people, other than the color of their skin when they're born. He claimed to believe that any dark skinned black dude would sunburn just as fast as a pale white person would, since you have 2 equal people being subjected to the same environment. Admitting that there was a difference in effect from the sun would be saying that there's a difference between races. Just because different groups of people are equal doesn't mean they're the same. They have different habits, different tendencies, different capabilities. In liberal schools, they brainwash people into believing that this isn't true, and program people to dispel stereotypes even before seeing if it's true or not.

One can argue that the lack of volatility in the caste system does not foster competitiveness. Since one cannot change their caste or rigid social status through action, competition should not be necessary.

Yes the idea of materialism being part of Indian heritage is completely and totally wrong. The India caste system had nothing to do with material wealth (this is how caste system in India was different than the unspoken caste system in much of the else of the world) In fact the highest class, brahimins, rarely had as much wealth as the merchant class. This misunderstanding of India's historical caste system vs. Western historical caste system is common though because it seems at odds with capitalistic tendencies. In fact there would often be very rich people who spend their retired years giving up all their wealth and going begging door to door b/c this was believed to be an important step in achieving personal growth within this lifetime.

Competition is not fostered in Indian culture or religions like Buddhism which teaches precisely the opposite of materialism would never have originated. However like all developing nations, competition fuels growth. There is a personal attitude required to accomplish the wealth growth in foreign nations Indians often accomplish, and this attitude is common in all people who work to do those things imo.

 

[athithi]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: athithi
*snipped*

Most of the other Indians on this thread handle themselves well and seem respectable. You don't. Then again, there are punkasses in any group.

Yeah, I have a real aversion to mocking myself and my heritage just so I can relate better to Westerners.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, it's called "Keepin up with the Choudary's".

I'm so jealous of your post count. Must... nef... more...

:laugh:

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Yo, whassup?

 

[Inspector Jihad]

if we were so competitive would we have let ourselves get humiliated in the world cup by bangladesh...****** bangladesh.

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
if we were so competitive would we have let ourselves get humiliated in the world cup by bangladesh...****** bangladesh.

hahahahhaah.. good point.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: jai6638

Originally posted by: hopeless74
yeah ekkc buddha probably smelled of curry too...

btw, i know alot of indians and pakistanis, and none of them smell bad. in fact just the opposite, they take pride in their appearance.

haahah. thts exactly what I was thinkg. I've heard this stereotype a lot but any Indian/beloved patriot I have come across does not smell bad at all!

I have met many Indians, Pakistanis, and other South Asians that smell horrendous. They are almost always recent FOBs. It is a strange musky odor.

I'm not sure what people mean by curry smell. I wouldn't consider it a smell related to food.

I seriously cannot believe that you have not smelled it. Where do you live?

My friend (who is also Indian) went to a career fair at a local university to recruit for his company. He almost passed out from the horrible BO from the Indians (fobs) who were grouping up around him.

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: jai6638

Originally posted by: hopeless74
yeah ekkc buddha probably smelled of curry too...

btw, i know alot of indians and pakistanis, and none of them smell bad. in fact just the opposite, they take pride in their appearance.

haahah. thts exactly what I was thinkg. I've heard this stereotype a lot but any Indian/beloved patriot I have come across does not smell bad at all!

I have met many Indians, Pakistanis, and other South Asians that smell horrendous. They are almost always recent FOBs. It is a strange musky odor.

I'm not sure what people mean by curry smell. I wouldn't consider it a smell related to food.

I seriously cannot believe that you have not smelled it. Where do you live?

My friend (who is also Indian) went to a career fair at a local university to recruit for his company. He almost passed out from the horrible BO from the Indians (fobs) who were grouping up around him.

I live in Connecticut.. dunno... Maybe the South Asians I intereact have been here for a few years and hence, dont smell as much? lol.. dunno

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: mariok2006
I have an Indian friend who gets jealous extremely easy...

really. i have white freinds who started thrwoing tantrums (i mean cursing, throwing stuff hitting the ball really hard if he lost a point) every time i won in racket ball. many times i had to let him win to calm him down. does that mean all whites are like that ? probably not.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Is this wank thread still going?

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Is this wank thread still going?

yeah, all the indian people are very competitive to get the last post and get jealous if they dont.

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Is this wank thread still going?

yeah, all the indian people are very competitive to get the last post and get jealous if they dont.

I agree.. its a good excuse to "nef"

 

[pradeep1]

Originally posted by: jai6638

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Is this wank thread still going?

yeah, all the indian people are very competitive to get the last post and get jealous if they dont.

I agree.. its a good excuse to "nef"

Here, here, I am waiting for athithi to put the smack down on another person.

 

[Prfstrkr]

cuz they are selfish and stingy @$$

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: BOLt

This trait is largely an environmental one. It's not because of race or ethnicity. Replace "Indian" in the OP with Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. and add the word "some" or "many", and you will have a valid statement. It is also because of philosophical factors imparted from parents and, to a lesser extent, peers. This trait can be seen in all races and ethnicities.

Addressing the OP, I think that particular couple bothers you a lot, so you've made some associations. It's natural, and I am glad that you have expressed your thoughts, but I hope that you will re-consider your experience as being representative of an entire ethnicity.

I speak from personal experience, as I am Indian and I have written essays and thought about this subject in great detail. I am not the absolute authority, but my words are not naive or ignorant, as some of the other posters have been.

It sounds like you are ignoring reality and are trying to take the moral high ground by spouting pre-canned PC nonsense.

You're making it seem as if traits and habits don't travel along ethnic lines.

You have a group of people (Indians) who had a caste system for a very long time. Class and materialism are part of their heritage. Of course they're going to be competitive.


I once argued with some ultra PC (liberal) guy who tried to tell me that there's no genetic difference between black people and white people, other than the color of their skin when they're born. He claimed to believe that any dark skinned black dude would sunburn just as fast as a pale white person would, since you have 2 equal people being subjected to the same environment. Admitting that there was a difference in effect from the sun would be saying that there's a difference between races. Just because different groups of people are equal doesn't mean they're the same. They have different habits, different tendencies, different capabilities. In liberal schools, they brainwash people into believing that this isn't true, and program people to dispel stereotypes even before seeing if it's true or not.

You're confusing race and culture. No, white and black people are not physically the same, but you seem to think habits and tendencies are racial, when they're cultural.