Why are Indian people very competative and get jealous easily?

[crt1530]

DVK916?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, it's called "Keepin up with the Choudary's".

I'm so jealous of your post count. Must... nef... more...

If you're impressed by Little Dave's post count you should see mine!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: crt1530
DVK916?

No way, OP says he has a wife, and Doug couldn't land anything that's legal to marry in any state or country.

- M4H

 

[dbot]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, it's called "Keepin up with the Choudary's".

I'm so jealous of your post count. Must... nef... more...

lol, did that one hit a nerve?

Lol, no cause its so true with some of us. A certain habitual liar from highschool comes to mind.

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

Well, in my parents' (first generation immigrants) circle of friends, it's all about competition. It gets really extreme, too. For example, my aunt sold her house and bought a new one, way too big for her, just to keep up.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, it's called "Keepin up with the Choudary's".

I'm so jealous of your post count. Must... nef... more...

lol, did that one hit a nerve?

Lol, no cause its so true with some of us. A certain habitual liar from highschool comes to mind.

LMAO, hahahahaha, are you referring to Amit?

 

[ABitTooSpicy]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Essentially my wife and I know a lot of indian couples. As they are our freinds one thing we notice about them is they actively and indirectly try to compete with us on everything. Our children, Our electronics!!!!, Everything we do they try to compete with. Is this common???

I think your correlation is backwards... It's not that "Indian people [are] very competitive and get jealous easily"... It's more that your friends that are competitive and get jealous happen to be Indian...

Jealousy is a trait shared by many among many different social and racial borders... I've got plenty of really competitive friends that are non-Indian

I for one hate everyone equally - "I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I don't even know you, but I hate you. I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you and only to you."

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: aarondeep
Way to stereotype.....
How are they competing? Are they flat out telling you their kids are smarter than yours? Are all of your Indian acquaintances like that?
Being an Indian myself I know that parents will put a lot of pressure on their kids to do the best academically to give the parents bragging rights. But now i am generalizing too!
Most of my friends aren't like this (the indian ones). Maybe because I choose not to hang out with those types of people that kinda stuff can get old after a while.

They compete by more less making indirect inferences between the stuff they have and what we have. They do a lot of ovbious show off in order to get attention that they have something better. An example would be when we moved from an apartment (where we both used to live) to a house (where we live now). We invited them to dinner with us. They said... "This is not a good area right????" Almost as if we moved to the ghetto... Which is not true we moved to a nice area. Another example is they try to make a comparision of our daugter with their son. Our daugter and their son was born around the same time. My daugter is a little shy of people. My dauger knows how to say a lot of words however, when she is around people she dosen't talk much. So the wife of the family actually test each kid in front of each other and in front of us. She ask my daugter what is this and of course she gives no answer because she's shy. She then ask her son what is that. He answers. she does this continuslly. Almost like a competition.

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: aarondeep

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: MagicConch
lol. Yes, it is completely common, this is why there are no Joneses in India because they simply could not compete.

Like an example is one family my wife and I know are recent immigrants from india. My wife and I know them because we used to live in teh same apartment complex as they did. We moved up and bought a house. We own much more then they do. They try to stick around us and at the same time try to compete. It dosen't bother me but it's just interesting to see how they do it. As a matter of fact to make them feel better I try to put my stuff down in front of them. "My 8 mega pixle camera is actually not as good as your 3 mega pixle" LOL... If we get something they get something etc.....

You gotta realize that this is probally something common with most immigrants. They likely feel inferior to people who have been in the country for a long time and feel the need to compete.

If I were a immigrant I would understand that since I haven't GREW up in that particular country It is understandable. Most Americans including myself understand that immigrants don't know certian things about the united States or take more time to "get up there" then most of us who have been here most of our lives. SOME Immigrants I know try to "Americanize" themselves. SOME Indians I notice don't do much of this. My dad for example is from Karachi, Pakistian. He since I was a child tried to put almost like an Islamic traditional parent raising methods on me and my sister since we were children. How is that possible in the UNITED STATES when I attended American Schools and socialize with Americans on a daily basis. He found it was impossible and abondon this idea (when we were well old enough).

 

[DivideBYZero]

Let me know if you are going to make any further sweeping generalisations in the near future so I can avoid the thread.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

i hear that asians own laundromats, black people steal, and while people LOVE mayonnaise.

 

[Flyback]

People from every culture around the world do it. The difference is in the approach.

North Americans are bashful about it and don't say it to each others face, but go to a cookie-cutter suburb and you'll find neighbors competing over their cars, landscaping, whatever. First and second generation immigrants just don't have the same tact that you might in your approach, but don't for a second think that it isn't common here

I'm not saying that -every- person engages in it, but I've found it prevalent among white Anglo-Saxons just the same. Some are even forthright about it and the majority finds it offensive/abrasive. The only reason people get offended, however, is because they aren't supposed to be so vocal about it, not that they don't partake themselves

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: Flyback
People from every culture around the world do it. The difference is in the approach.

North Americans are bashful about it and don't say it to each others face, but go to a cookie-cutter suburb and you'll find neighbors competing over their cars, landscaping, whatever. First and second generation immigrants just don't have the same tact that you might in your approach, but don't for a second think that it isn't common here

I'm not saying that -every- person engages in it, but I've found it prevalent among white Anglo-Saxons just the same. Some are even forthright about it and the majority finds it offensive/abrasive. The only reason people get offended, however, is because they aren't supposed to be so vocal about it, not that they don't partake themselves

My wife and I have more then them. As far as property and income. I helped them on their taxes last year and just to say he dosent' make very much. But that is inderstandable because he is on a H1-B visa and has a petition. I don't compare with people. I don't have a need to because I know my future looks bright and I'm capable of getting anything. But, I was just curious if this was common. It seems to appear from the general concensus that it is.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: ABitTooSpicy

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Essentially my wife and I know a lot of indian couples. As they are our freinds one thing we notice about them is they actively and indirectly try to compete with us on everything. Our children, Our electronics!!!!, Everything we do they try to compete with. Is this common???

I think your correlation is backwards... It's not that "Indian people [are] very competitive and get jealous easily"... It's more that your friends that are competitive and get jealous happen to be Indian...

Jealousy is a trait shared by many among many different social and racial borders... I've got plenty of really competitive friends that are non-Indian

I for one hate everyone equally - "I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I don't even know you, but I hate you. I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you and only to you."

Player Haters Ball?

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: Flyback
People from every culture around the world do it. The difference is in the approach.

North Americans are bashful about it and don't say it to each others face, but go to a cookie-cutter suburb and you'll find neighbors competing over their cars, landscaping, whatever. First and second generation immigrants just don't have the same tact that you might in your approach, but don't for a second think that it isn't common here

I'm not saying that -every- person engages in it, but I've found it prevalent among white Anglo-Saxons just the same. Some are even forthright about it and the majority finds it offensive/abrasive. The only reason people get offended, however, is because they aren't supposed to be so vocal about it, not that they don't partake themselves

My wife and I have more then them. As far as property and income. I helped them on their taxes last year and just to say he dosent' make very much. But that is inderstandable because he is on a H1-B visa and has a petition. I don't compare with people. I don't have a need to because I know my future looks bright and I'm capable of getting anything. But, I was just curious if this was common. It seems to appear from the general concensus that it is.

Again, I don't think everyone engages in it, but the only reason people find Indians competitive is because they are first or second generation and haven't learned the approach (silence) that is the tradition here. If you talk about it you are singled out, but the fact is plenty of people engage in it. Look at how many people max out their finances to buy the latest and greatest fashion or car. People go into debt just to keep up. *shrug*

 

[athithi]

It really sounds like you would rather they be inferior to you - almost like you find it unfair that they are trying to catch up (or that their kid is smarter than yours). I don't know many people of Pakistani origin, but from what I know they don't try as hard as Indians - perhaps they are just laid back, perhaps they are just lazy. But I can understand why from their perspective Indians would wear them out with the incessant competitiveness. On the other hand, the Indian American community is by far the most successful immigrant group besides the Jewish. You can't have it both ways - that is, be lazy and unambitious and yet be successful unless you are some white trash buying lottery tickets. But I totally agree with you that it can get on one's nerves - Indians generally lack tact. Most of them are yet to realize that you can be competitive without displaying it overtly. You do need to take a look at why it bothers you so much, though. Are you sure their competitiveness is not making you feel insecure?

EDIT: For a second generation American your spelling and grammar are terrible. At first I thought they were just typos, but you really need to brush up your English language skills. You'd be surprised how much more effective your rants become when stated in pure, unadulterated English!

 

[jlbenedict]

I saw a KFC commercial the other day that hit me in the face with a huge generalization:

It was a black family, sitting at the kitchen table with a bucket of chicken just brought home from KFC..trans fat free!


I was offended greatly. I like chicken too, damn it!

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I saw a KFC commercial the other day that hit me in the face with a huge generalization:

It was a black family, sitting at the kitchen table with a bucket of chicken just brought home from KFC..trans fat free!


I was offended greatly. I like chicken too, damn it!

If that offended you, this will fill you with rage.

Text

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Essentialy my wife and I know a lot of indian couples. As they are our freinds one thing we notice about them is they actively and indirectly try to compete with us on everything. Our children, Our electronics!!!!, Everything we do they try to compete with. Is this common???

"keeping up with the joneses"

you really think this is just an indian trait?

Alot of asians do this more than other races. It is annoying.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: Flyback
People from every culture around the world do it. The difference is in the approach.

North Americans are bashful about it and don't say it to each others face, but go to a cookie-cutter suburb and you'll find neighbors competing over their cars, landscaping, whatever. First and second generation immigrants just don't have the same tact that you might in your approach, but don't for a second think that it isn't common here

I'm not saying that -every- person engages in it, but I've found it prevalent among white Anglo-Saxons just the same. Some are even forthright about it and the majority finds it offensive/abrasive. The only reason people get offended, however, is because they aren't supposed to be so vocal about it, not that they don't partake themselves

My wife and I have more then them. As far as property and income. I helped them on their taxes last year and just to say he dosent' make very much. But that is inderstandable because he is on a H1-B visa and has a petition. I don't compare with people. I don't have a need to because I know my future looks bright and I'm capable of getting anything. But, I was just curious if this was common. It seems to appear from the general concensus that it is.

Hypocrisy....too...much...hypocrisy....in...one...thread....to...handle....must...resist....posting...

 

[McGyver]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Small penis syndrome.

:thumbsup:

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I saw a KFC commercial the other day that hit me in the face with a huge generalization:

It was a black family, sitting at the kitchen table with a bucket of chicken just brought home from KFC..trans fat free!


I was offended greatly. I like chicken too, damn it!

If that offended you, this will fill you with rage.

Text

I'll have to watch this at home. Youtube blocked here

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Small penis syndrome.

:thumbsup:

How does an Americans small penis enable him to see an Indians competitive spirit?

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: athithi
It really sounds like you would rather they be inferior to you - almost like you find it unfair that they are trying to catch up (or that their kid is smarter than yours). I don't know many people of Pakistani origin, but from what I know they don't try as hard as Indians - perhaps they are just laid back, perhaps they are just lazy. But I can understand why from their perspective Indians would wear them out with the incessant competitiveness. On the other hand, the Indian American community is by far the most successful immigrant group besides the Jewish. You can't have it both ways - that is, be lazy and unambitious and yet be successful unless you are some white trash buying lottery tickets. But I totally agree with you that it can get on one's nerves - Indians generally lack tact. Most of them are yet to realize that you can be competitive without displaying it overtly. You do need to take a look at why it bothers you so much, though. Are you sure their competitiveness is not making you feel insecure?

EDIT: For a second generation American your spelling and grammar are terrible. At first I thought they were just typos, but you really need to brush up your English language skills. You'd be surprised how much more effective your rants become when stated in pure, unadulterated English!

Well I don't know, First, I'm born and raised in the United States. I'm an American. But second, I have no problem if they go above me. I know who I am and I know what I'm capable of. My wife and I have freinds who are well off doctors and well of business men as well. We socialize with them. If our doctor freind for example had a laptop computer that is inferior to ours. I'm not going to bring my laptop to his house and show it off to make me feel good. LOL... He's a doctor for gods sake he can (I'm sure) go to Best Buy and take care of that pretty quick. It's just the some indian couple that we have as freinds behave commonly in this manner. But, I don't know many American freinds who will pin one innocent 2 year old child against another. It's not socially acceptable and is down right wrong. But considering what I've heard from here and what I've learned this is common in the Indian culture.

Lastly, most Asians person in the U.S. are more successful then many Americans. I'm an example myself.

 

[The Stigenator]

Oh i have to agree with the OP.. i've seen this and I am indian. I lived in india, i saw this, i live in the US now and i still see it. Not so much among my friends here, but i have seen it here. When my sister and her husband bought a house in upstate NY, their friends all wanted to buy a house then, problem.. they dont make so much as my sister and her husband to easily afford a 500K house just like that.

I see its more of a trait that is seen among the 'lower' class groups coming to teh US. By lower class, i mean groups that are coming to the US that havent been much exposed to western cultural musings. They are educated, but just not exposed to it as much. Hell i shouldnt be racist cause i've seen it among my own family and i cant put that down. I was recently in india and i just spent a hella lot of money to refurb our house there, and guess what my aunt wanted to keep up. I had to use some creative psychology to have her back down, or she would have spent her life savings on it.

So i guess i shouldnt be 'racist' over generalizations but i kinda see this behavior in first gen new immigrants, from areas where there is a lot of competition. You cant help it, indian people have to show off, go to an indian wedding, you will see each woman there trying to out do the next by wearing the most expensive, most goddy peice of cloth there ever would be.