No, I'm asking you to feel sorry for real people, not anecdotes, caricatures, and myths extrapolated to make you feel better about awful realities.
No it isn't, and that's a stupefyingly ignorant statement if you actually believe it.
No, I'm asking you to feel sorry for real people, not anecdotes, caricatures, and myths extrapolated to make you feel better about awful realities.You're asking me to feel sorry for poverty in hundred dollar tennis shoes, carrying smart phones, watching cable TV and playing on their XBoxes?
No it isn't, and that's a stupefyingly ignorant statement if you actually believe it.American poverty today is American prosperity fifty years ago.
I actually had a conversation with my best friends 19yo son about politics and government recently.
The general feeling is that government is corrupt, bought and paid for by special interests and there is very little hope of changing that. He and he says his friends have more overall humanitarian leanings and liberal leanings, but from a philosophical standpoint rather than partisan standpoint. He isnt looking at it from a governmental perspective. When he identifies as liberal he is comparing his world view to other overall, government isnt really in the equation.
In his eyes republicans and democrats are both worthless, conservatives and conservative principles are outdated and dogmatic, he also understands that liberals have some odd ways of thinking and approaching issues, but they seem to be more inclusive of everyone than conservatives.
I was actually surprised at how much consideration he has given it, when I asked him does he consider himself a republican/ conservative liberal or democrat he said none of that shit, it comes down to the issues people face and why they face them.
He said being dogmatic for the sake of needing to belong is ridiculous.
I left the conversation having some hope for the future
Awwww *sniffle* everyone feels so sorry for you on your computer letting the world know about that first-worlder plight. *sniffle*No, I'm asking you to feel sorry for real people, not anecdotes, caricatures, and myths extrapolated to make you feel better about awful realities.
Some good points there.Older people are likely to have saved more money so have more spending power, while younger people will be less afraid of losing what they have. Similarly, older people will have more career stability, younger people will have more options.
Older people are more experienced, younger people are more open minded.
Older people are more cynical due to experiencing more of life's problems, younger people are more naive.
Older people are more set in their ways, younger people are more impressionable.
Older people spent the formative years of their childhood further in the past. As societal trends slowly change, the more out of touch those formative norms will be.
Younger people have always been more progressive. The article says that people are now more progressive at a certain age. Maybe what's been changing is what it means to be young. Life expectancy goes up, retirement age has gone up, average age to marry and have a child has gone up, people are going to and graduating college later and people are leaving the household of their parents are later.
It's interesting for me to look at it, since I'm 30 years old but am way more liberal now than I was 10 years ago. But that's almost entirely due to a gradual departure from religion. I also live in a multi-family house (that I partially own) with my (unemployed) mother on another floor/apartment, but also my girlfriend, a friend, and a tenant renting the first floor. I have money, but I don't really spend it.
I do not believe that I've ever seen willingness to fight for freedom equated with willingness to demand handouts. Congratulations, I suppose. This must be some sort of proggie milestone.The Americans who staged the Revolutionary War were also "whiners". If they weren't whiners they would have just shut up and showed subservience to the King. There's nothing wrong with protesting injustices.
When you move on from "there aren't enough ladders, so government should just provide me the rewards of climbing it since we can't all succeed" to something like "there aren't enough ladders, so I'll have to work extra hard", call me and we'll debate.
I do not believe that I've ever seen willingness to fight for freedom equated with willingness to demand handouts. Congratulations, I suppose. This must be some sort of proggie milestone.
If you want to mischaracterize everyone who opposes the Republicans as being moochers and looters, go ahead. Not everyone who supports progressive causes is "demanding handouts".
You're asking me to feel sorry for poverty in hundred dollar tennis shoes, carrying smart phones, watching cable TV and playing on their XBoxes? Chance not. American poverty today is American prosperity fifty years ago.
Bunch of spoiled, whiny, entitled little shits. When parents stop rewarding bad behavior with a belt and instead give them a shiny new toy, what do you expect?
They aren't liberal in the sense of more personal freedoms. They're "liberal" in the sense they want free crap cause its not fair they don't have it.
If it weren't a crime to whoop your child's ass when they deserve it, we wouldn't see so much of it. The baby boomers and hippies are to blame.
Oddly enough, for as much as they complain about the Worldwide Progressive Conspiracy they secretly desperately want it to exist. They need it.
You know, many liberals are liberal for social policy, not fiscal policy.
This is some piss-poor, no-effort trolling.Awwww *sniffle* everyone feels so sorry for you on your computer letting the world know about that first-worlder plight. *sniffle*
My experience with these guys, less of them have proper parents and they never knew a world without the internet. These youngsters don't realize it wasn't that long ago you had to actually figure out how to live like an Indian.
Of course it's not just about money. Power gets you guys off even more, whether it's the power to decide what one can have for lunch or power over one's health care. And pretending that recognizing the goals for which proggies work equals believing in a conspiracy fools no one. There's an old saying that the best trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he doesn't exist. Proggies are not nearly as smart as old Scratch and you have zero chance of fooling people into believing they don't exist.I pay more in taxes and fees than I get in services each year almost certainly, and I think taxes on my income bracket should be higher.
They need to be able to convince themselves that people only hold progressive ideals so they can steal people's money or for some other nefarious purpose. Once they are forced to admit that smart people can genuinely hold these ideas because they think they are the best for society then an entire leg of their world view is knocked out. I'm sure it would be scary.
Oddly enough, for as much as they complain about the Worldwide Progressive Conspiracy they secretly desperately want it to exist. They need it.
Surely you feel at least a little self-conscious claiming that people who aren't progressive "can't think for themselves" when proggresive policies promote government thinking for people. Hungry? Government will tell you what to eat and help you buy it. Need a place to live? Let government pick up the tab.Where's the proof of that (outside of Fox News' hatred bubble)? Even if it is true, why aren't you happy that they're using that money to bolster the economy? If everyone who receives assistance didn't spend it, we would be in even worse shape.
It sounds like a line lifted directly from Fox news.
There may be some fraud in the support system, but why do people paint everyone who can't obtain enough money to live on with the same, broad brush? There simply aren't enough good jobs in this country for the population. It's simple math.
This hatred of all things progressive, especially if it helps people (who they assume don't deserve it) makes me sad for humanity.
Progressive policies (that conservatives fought all the way) help the elderly and disabled stay out of poverty, and do you think conservatives turn that filthy money away when it's their turn to collect?"
- Welfare for corporations is money well spent."
Those are the talking points of Fox News and the same message the Koch brothers support with millions. They are shoving it down people's throats, and they're swallowing it. It gets repeated here a lot here. I guess people can't think for themselves. Again my sadness for parts of this society waxes.
- "Welfare for humanity is the worst evil of all, and anyone who takes it is a lazy sub-human."
The road they would have us go down would plunge millions of low income people, the elderly and disabled into abject, homeless poverty. We were there before and (to the great chagrin of conservatives) we helped them out. Isn't that who we are as a society? Or will we cast people aside while we dine on lobster? Maybe it could be like the deep class boundaries in India. Is that what we want? Is that who we are?
We subsidize the oil and gas industries to the tune of $41B a year. I'm sure there's waste and fraud there too. Does that mean all industry that accepts subsidies is evil? Where's the outrage about this?
Says the guy who starts out a post asking someone to feel sorry...This is some piss-poor, no-effort trolling.
Of course it's not just about money. Power gets you guys off even more, whether it's the power to decide what one can have for lunch or power over one's health care. And pretending that recognizing the goals for which proggies work equals believing in a conspiracy fools no one. There's an old saying that the best trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he doesn't exist. Proggies are not nearly as smart as old Scratch and you have zero chance of fooling people into believing they don't exist.
Surely you feel at least a little self-conscious claiming that people who aren't progressive "can't think for themselves" when proggresive policies promote government thinking for people. Hungry? Government will tell you what to eat and help you buy it. Need a place to live? Let government pick up the tab.
News flash - there has never been a time when there were enough good jobs for everyone. There never will be. There never SHOULD be, for when people don't need to try harder than the next guy, progress ceases and regression begins. We saw that in every communist country. When there is no benefit to working harder, nobody works harder. Most people just go through the motions, because the end result is the same either way.
the world always gets more liberal, as humanity becomes more enlightened. people stop slavery, then they let blacks and women vote, they legalize gay marriage etc....