Why are people so against gay marriage?

[bob4432]

why all the fuss?

and no, i am not gay/bi or anything remotely swinging that way. i just don't understand why there is so much debate over it.

 

[ebaycj]

religion.

 

[manowar821]

Fear.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: ebaycj
religion.

Proudly holding back progress for two millennia and counting.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: ebaycj
religion.

Proudly holding back progress for two millennia and counting.

Your math skills aren't doing anything for progress either. Or do you think religion has only been around since Christianity started? You're as ignorant as those you mock.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: ebaycj
religion.

Proudly holding back progress for two millennia and counting.

Your math skills aren't doing anything for progress either. Or do you think religion has only been around since Christianity started? You're as ignorant as those you mock.

In this case it is correct to reference the age of Christianity as that's what causes the majority of our issues in this country.

 

[Stunt]

Because most men and women are repulsed by the idea of one guy doing another guy...I think there's a lot more support for Lesbian Marriage.

 

[alien42]

in the name of "conservatism", same as when Elvis swung his hips on TV in 1956, oh the humanity.

 

[MagicConch]

same reason people like when there is a line outside the club to get in. it makes the prize seem more appealing than it actually is.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Because most men and women are repulsed by the idea of one guy doing another guy...I think there's a lot more support for Lesbian Marriage.

Yes, lesbian love has been pretty trendy in our culture for a while now. With men, though, it's pretty much taboo, to put it mildly. Not as much as it was a few decades ago, though, not nearly. In any case, a lot of people are reluctant to condone it on any level. Marriage is sort of a societal condoning, or at the very least it's a kind of official toleration.

Part of the reason for people being against gay marriage is that homosexual tendencies are ubiquitous and most people are in denial about them. Even if they aren't, they usually don't want to acknowledge them. The feeling persists, right or wrong, that condoning gay marriage will promote homosexual activity, which is more or less taboo. There is a hugely wide spectrum that people are on when it comes to their own sexuality. That only further complicates this very complex issue.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Fear.

This, combined with religion and an inability to separate a government-sponsored (i.e. secular) "marriage" from a church-sponsored (i.e. sacramental) "Marriage".

Many religious groups fear that the allowance of secular marriage for homosexuals will open churches to lawsuits if the church refuses to allow a homosexual marriage to be performed using the church's facilities. Personally I think that such a lawsuit will likely be attempted at some point, but that it will also ultimately fail.

Overall, I think that the religious folks are more worried about it than they ought to be. There is no reason in Heaven or on Earth that homosexual partners should not have the same rights as heterosexual partners. It's just plain cruel that we have a situation in which a committed homosexual couple can't get spousal visitation in hospitals or cannot be claimed on their partner's insurance.

ZV

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: manowar821
Fear.

This, combined with religion and an inability to separate a government-sponsored (i.e. secular) "marriage" from a church-sponsored (i.e. sacramental) "Marriage".

Many religious groups fear that the allowance of secular marriage for homosexuals will open churches to lawsuits if the church refuses to allow a homosexual marriage to be performed using the church's facilities. Personally I think that such a lawsuit will likely be attempted at some point, but that it will also ultimately fail.

Overall, I think that the religious folks are more worried about it than they ought to be. There is no reason in Heaven or on Earth that homosexual partners should not have the same rights as heterosexual partners. It's just plain cruel that we have a situation in which a committed homosexual couple can't get spousal visitation in hospitals or cannot be claimed on their partner's insurance.

ZV

That's my final take on it, really. Denial of gay rights to marriage is cruel.

 

[dlx22]

well here are my thoughts:
1. It is difficult for a lot of people to think of themselves in someone elses shoes.
2. A typical straight person will find homosexual behavior repulsive; why? because they are straight.
3. a fair number of people believe that being gay is a choice and thus gays are not born that way. If this is true then its a fair arguement to say people have to live with their choices. Problem is most research that i've read indicates that the majority of gay people are born that way. Obviously some people do choose, for example they could be equally attracted to men or women but end up with someone of the same sex.
So nature dominates but nurture can't completely be eleminated as an explanation.
4. Even if nature is dominant then many people feel that people can still control their urges.
5.For the most part gays are an invisible minority, they look just like everyone else in the general population. you can't tell a person is gay just by looking at them or hearing them talk(with a few exceptions)
6. Supreme Court has basically said that is up to the states to decide the requirements for marriage when they threw out the Nelson v Baker case for lack of a federal question. (kinda suggest that their is no constitutional protection of gay marriage, If you really think that equal protection of the law ifs offended I encourage you to read the case law)
7. Some have a religous arguement against it but I don't really if want to touch on that (I believe in a higher power but am suspicious of the church as an institution)
8. Irrational hate or basically bigotry.
9. Is it an issue of happiness or benifits or both?
10. Will we have straight people marrying members of the same sex for benifits but then living 2000 miles apart? How do we have a gay person prove they are gay?
11. many people believe in equality of opportunity and not result.
12. traditional definition of marriage wasn't formed in order to discriminate against gay people.


I say live and let live

 

[cyclohexane]

It's all hype.

 

[43st]

I'm not sure when the government got into the marriage business, hasn't that always been a church thing?

 

[Kirby]

Most people don't like the penis on penis action.

 

[NoStateofMind]

It's an abomination to God.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: 43st
I'm not sure when the government got into the marriage business, hasn't that always been a church thing?

When married couples got separate legal rights?

It's an abomination to God.

But he loves all of us unconditionally!

 

[Capt Caveman]

They hope that the hot lesbians will go straight.

 

[Colt45]

They're afraid they're gonna wake up after a rough night in vegas, married, to a man-hooker.

 

[Vic]

Marriage is about authority. It is the tradition of a couple going before the societal authority (religious, government, or both) to beg for permission and approval to have sex and procreate. And now the gays want society's permission and approval too, and they're not begging like young couples of old seeking their parents' blessing, they're demanding.

That's what the fuss is all about. Better IMO if we ditched the practice of marriage altogether.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Is there a religion that invented marriage? Or was marriage the result of religion in general?

As it is today it is a social norm that only has ties to religion if you want it to.

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: ebaycj
religion.

Proudly holding back progress for two millennia and counting.

Your math skills aren't doing anything for progress either. Or do you think religion has only been around since Christianity started? You're as ignorant as those you mock.

In this case it is correct to reference the age of Christianity as that's what causes the majority of our issues in this country.

Why is it that your beliefs are considered progress and others aren't?

There are many people in this country who have beliefs that have nothing to do with religion but also seem to be opposite to yours.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: 43st
I'm not sure when the government got into the marriage business, hasn't that always been a church thing?

When married couples got separate legal rights?

Then remove any special rights granted to married people by the government.. problem solved.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: K1052
In this case it is correct to reference the age of Christianity as that's what causes the majority of our issues in this country.

I can just as easily say it's those who reject religion that are causing the majority of our issues in this country. :roll:

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