Why are people such pussies?

[skace]

<< nah, its weeding out the weak, no psychological bs can defend the fact that the person chose to kill themselves. if they needed help they'd get it themselves. its not anybody's fault but ther own; thats why its not legal and frowned upon by most people. Plenty of people have had crappy lives while growing up, even abuse and or molestation and live to see another day. >>



I disagree. If someone does not know they can get help then unless someone intervenes, they will eventually turn to suicide. There has to be someone that steps in there and lets them know they can be helped, or that they will help them. Without that fleeting grasp at hope then living is no better than death. Yes plenty of people live another day after terrible things, those people either knew they could get help, or someone else helped them before they got to the point of no-return.

Edit: In other words, I do not consider it a weakness, but a state of mind. A state of being trapped, confused, and without hope.

 

[Pastore]

You don't know the situation that he is in. Maybe he doesn't have as strong a mind as you or I, is that his fault? You can't exactly change personality traits.

 

[aimn]

Can you say depression? Do you know anything about depression? Have you ever been depressed to the point that you cant just "choose" to forget about it. Ever have so many thoughts going through your head at the same time, you cant concentrate on anything. You seem to be as ignorant as the owner of our company when I found a 22 year old kid, sitting in his car behind our building, dead. He had shot himself in the head. He had his checkbook on his lap, with bills all over the front seat. The owner of our company "I just cant believe these people! Kill themselves over money! What are they thinking of, money isnt everything." This guy is a multi-millionaire, of course he doesnt understand money problems. Come to find out, this kid worked for a security company and had stolen money, and was caught. His girlfriend had told him two hours prior that she was pregnant. So was his wife. He had tested positive for HIV two weeks prior to his suicide. Yah, I dont understand people who kill themselves over a hangnail. But I have been in the position where death seems to be the only answer. Hopefully you will never be there. Say what you want, but until you have been diagnosed with chronic depression and have so much stuff going on in your life, its hard for you to speak a sentence without losing your train of thought. Careful what you say.
I dont condone suicide. I know that there is a way out of each problem we face. I know that it ALWAYS seems to work itself out. I know that suicide is selfish. I dont agree that it is the "easy way out". A little to permanent if you ask me.

 

[Pepsei]

he's a wuss for trying to kill himself and giving up on the skanky skinny whore...

 

[StageLeft]

People who say that suicide is the wussy way out are either stupid or have never been in the situation where they've considered it. You can't use reason to apply to a situation like that.

 

[sheselectric]

i think suicide is incredibly selfish, b/c the people that get hurt in the end are the loved ones of the person who killed himself.

 

[StageLeft]

Actually skimming through this thread I can see there are a lot of armchair psychologists who don't know sh*t. I don't want to name names but seriously people pick up a book or two. Try to put yourself in the shoes of somebody who's life holds no happiness no matter what happens. Somebody who through either environmental or psycholigical influences does not enjoy anything they do. They have no hope for the future. Everything is bleak and everything sucks. Until you've been in this situation or at least learned something concrete about it you cannot reasonably condemn somebody for thoughts of suicide. Of course I do not condone it but I do understand it.

 

[KingHam]

<< Why are people such pussies? >>



Society champions many qualities that the weak posess. IMO, much of has to do with the feminization of our culture.

KingHam

 

[Hammer]

Skoorb, suicide is contrary to our basic survival instincts. I don't condone it or understand it. Btw, I like skinny whores.

 

[StageLeft]

<< Skoorb, suicide is contrary to our basic survival instincts. I don't condone it or understand it. Btw, I like skinny whores. >>

Yeah it's an illness, kind of like how having lung cancer also doesn't help you survive very long!

 

[Hammer]

Skoorb, if skinny whores are an illness, I hope they never find a cure.

 

[bizmark]

I dunno, I think that suicide can be honorable in some situations. Just as long as you don't fvck it up and live through it! I answered "No" to your poll b/c I don't think that suicide is always the wussy way out, but I would have to agree that he's a pussy, since he didn't succeed. That's it for me, don't expect followup comments, this isn't something I care to debate as I think it's a really personal issue over which people should be expected to disagree, but it's fun watching others debate and try to change each other's minds