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Some mammals did get as large as dinosaurs. For example, Indricotherium compared well with a medium-sized sauropod.
Duh! There were also dinosaurs smaller then modern house cats.
Some mammals did get as large as dinosaurs. For example, Indricotherium compared well with a medium-sized sauropod.
Not really. Mammalian bone physiology explains much of why there are no sauropod-sized mammals. Essentially, the bigger dinosaurs had air sacs in their skeletons much like modern birds, so their bones could take up more volume while maintaining a certain mass (they're less dense). No mammal has evolved a similar solution.
Lions are very large and they hunt in packs.
I thought the mega fauna mammals were a result of the colder climate. Larger animals have a better suffice area to lose heat from in relation to mass.
Yes they do. They hunt mainly at night and in packs. They sleep during the day. It's usually either an all female affair or male and females where the females start the attack and the male gives the crucial bite to the neck, crushing it.actually they don't.. yes they live in prides but the females are still solitary hunters for the Pride.
They do not have the pack mentality for hunting as wolves or other pack hunters do.
actually they don't.. yes they live in prides but the females are still solitary hunters for the Pride.
They do not have the pack mentality for hunting as wolves or other pack hunters do.
hmm...i've watched plenty of nature shows where they show a whole bunch of lions taking down a gazelle at the same time. they don't NEED to hunt in packs but they certainly do.
That's one theory. It doesn't explain why animals in the arctic aren't still that large or why the huge dinosaurs thrived in tropical climates, while smaller ones survived in the antarctic. Other theories suggest that they could have died out for a number of reasons and simply have yet to make a comeback.
Lions are very large and they hunt in packs.
A quick Google search says Epicyon Haydeni was the largest canine that ever lived and was larger then a modern lion, so they definitely can get bigger, but during the time period this was still smaller then the largest cats. Exactly why modern animals are smaller then prehistoric ones is unknown. For that matter, exactly why mammals never got as large as dinosaurs is unknown.
One possible answer is that for canines to be as large as cats they would have to become cats. For an insect to become larger it would require lungs, which in turn would require red blood cells, etc. until it evolved into an animal. Similarly, for a canine to compete with large cats it may be necessary for it adopt more of their physiology.
For example, many of the larger predators like lions and bears are older species that have simpler physiologies then canines and are more resistant to inbreeding. If food becomes scarce and their population declines being able to avoid inbreeding can then be a huge advantage that can mean the difference between survival and extinction. Likewise, reptiles like crocodilians have yet again simpler physiologies and the largest one ever was bigger then T Rex.
http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/glenn-robinson-feature-purdue.jpg
I really wish I knew how to attach an image here
So that's why the blue whale is the largest animal ever, we have less O2 today?
climate plays a huge role. The very warm, CO2 rich climate of the jurrassic was conducive to massive reptiles and massive spiders. I believe modern spiders are essentially no different--were we in the same climate, they would be growing up to near human size.
In "Guns, Germs, and Steel" Jared Diamond theorizes that when earlier humans developed sufficient hunting techniques they were able take down mega fauna fairly easily, and quickly decimated the populations. The animals moved to slowly and couldn't adapt quick enough, and were simply killed off by humans a few tens of thousands of years ago. That might be why the many species of large land animals, from Australia to North America, died out fairly recently.
There is also speculation that dinosaurs simply had a more efficient metabolism, but whatever the case modern birds do not get that large and mammals haven't been around nearly as long leaving the exact reasons up for debate.
I know this is your area, so I'll ask you instead of googling - isn't there a general trend of predators/prey to both get larger over time? If that's true, given enough time and a large enough populations, might we hypothetically expect mammals to find this or maybe some other solution, and then reach dino-like sizes on land?
I knew I'd heard that somewhere. The exceptions are always the most interesting cases... IIRC, the velociraptors got smaller over time, but their brains got bigger, at least in proportion. Hypothesis being they traded size for intelligence and pack hunting.Yes, there is a well-recognized phenomenon in evolution called 'phyletic size increase' or Cope's rule. It's by no means a biological law, but it happens often. There's lots of research into why animal size increases on average over millions of years. One of the leading general ideas is that larger animals face lessened predation pressure. Interestingly, humans are a great example of phyletic size increase - our earliest ancestors were barely 4' tall on average.
the largest I know about is the dire wolf but those died out around 10,000 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf
and they got up to around 250lb.