Rant Why are they killing USAID?

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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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The purge is happening in real time. Looks like Musk’s goons got access to USAID’s systems and are locking people out of their access & files one by one. Keeping tabs via Signal.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Does the general public know or care. We're fucked until they do. So we're fucked and there is nothing I can do. Everything will just happen by chance. If there is nothing you can do, why worry or waste time complaining. When you're fucked you're fucked. Have a beer.
 

DZero

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USAID is dead... seems that Trump will fire them and take all the money with him and his Oligarchs... as the Soviets way
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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If I can find any humor in these dark times, it’s imagining Marco Rubio’s face on a plane somewhere over South America when he realizes that he’s not actually in charge of State—Elon Musk is.

Rubio told everyone last week that life-saving aid and PEPFAR (administered by USAID) for AIDS relief would continue, then got on a plane and left the country, allowing Elon’s goons to quite literally break into USAID’s HQ, fire the security staff, and shut down the whole thing.

Dems may be feckless, but at least they aren’t full on cucks like Rubio.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Has there been any good explanation as to what the F this is all about? Did this edict come from some QAnon source?
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Has there been any good explanation as to what the F this is all about? Did this edict come from some QAnon source?
As I understand it, Project 2025 is to eliminate the US Federal Government, leaving only a police state.
You are watching it being dismantled piece by piece.

They'll use the propaganda of "saving money" and "fighting corruption" but we know the true purpose is consolidating power and wealth for the Oligarchs.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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As I think Grover Norquist said - make the government so small you can drown it in a bathtub.
Their funding isn't even a percent of the US budget. Still waiting for the propaganda blitz explanation, other than they are criminals. That's explanation without any details.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Has there been any good explanation as to what the F this is all about? Did this edict come from some QAnon source?
I heard a clip of some Elon audio on Spaces last night where I said "USAID isn't some apple with a worm in it...we looked into it and it's just a ball of worms...there's no apple...so you have to get rid of it" or something to that effect--but of course he offered zero evidence.

Shutting down USAID, essentially on a whim, isn't the crazy part. This was entirely predictable based on Project 2025's stated goals, and anyone who worked in or with the agency knew they were on borrowed time post-election.

The crazy part is the speed with which Musk's Twitler Youth squad was able to do it--with ZERO resistance from Trump's cabinet or Republicans in Congress. There are no more "adults" left in the room. The guardrails are gone. That should be scaring EVERYONE right now.

This isn't some model of government efficiency at work here. It's a wrecking ball. Wrecking balls are really efficient at destroying things.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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I heard a clip of some Elon audio on Spaces last night where I said "USAID isn't some apple with a worm in it...we looked into it and it's just a ball of worms...there's no apple...so you have to get rid of it" or something to that effect--but of course he offered zero evidence.
I guess asking for actual evidence is me not cooperating with the new government.
 

MrSquished

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Jan 14, 2013
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Man, I'm sure those farmers that voted for Trump but just lost out on the MILLIONS of dollars of goods USAID would buy for distribution around the world will be regretting those votes any second now.
I hope all those farmers that voted for Trump and get affected by this have a fucking terrible year, and then an even worse one next year. They earned it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Wish they would pick a conspiracy theory and just stick to it.

Weren't they recently calling COVID not a big deal? And/or that it actually didn't kill that many people after all?
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies."
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Is this directed towards me?
It was directed towards your implication that they would to bother adhering to any reasonable thinking or be consistent. Hence COVID was both not a big deal, but also terrible and unleashed on us by ne'er-do-wells at the expense of the American taxpayer.
 

uallas5

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It was directed towards your implication that they would to bother adhering to any reasonable thinking or be consistent. Hence COVID was both not a big deal, but also terrible and unleashed on us by ne'er-do-wells at the expense of the American taxpayer.
Or how Biden was both a dottering old fool with dementia and an implacable evil crook wielding immense power to thwart conservatives
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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It’s extremely disturbing to think of all the ways Musk could abuse the payment system.

Musk wanted to make Twitter a financial platform. What’s to stop him from privatizing the government payment function and moving it to an X platform where he can get a fee for every transaction? I’m sure he can “prove” that would be cheaper and more efficient.

If he gets access to this, he can put pressure on other federal employees to grant him illegal access to other resources he doesn’t have lawful rights to. Such as, a SCIF that contains information useful to the foreign political patrons we all know he serves (Russia and China foremost).

He’s a master of double signaling. Just as dogs will lap up their own vomit to redigest it. All of the “government too big” zombies will lap this up as “hooray, he’s cutting off bureaucratic moochers from sucking on the public tit.”

I’m certain that much of what Elon’s gang is up to is illegal, but we’re in a post rule of law era now.

I'm labeling Musk’s takeover of the federal payment system a “coup,” with no qualifiers.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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It’s extremely disturbing to think of all the ways Musk could abuse the payment system.

Musk wanted to make Twitter a financial platform. What’s to stop him from privatizing the government payment function and moving it to an X platform where he can get a fee for every transaction? I’m sure he can “prove” that would be cheaper and more efficient.

If he gets access to this, he can put pressure on other federal employees to grant him illegal access to other resources he doesn’t have lawful rights to. Such as, a SCIF that contains information useful to the foreign political patrons we all know he serves (Russia and China foremost).

He’s a master of double signaling. Just as dogs will lap up their own vomit to redigest it. All of the “government too big” zombies will lap this up as “hooray, he’s cutting off bureaucratic moochers from sucking on the public tit.”

I’m certain that much of what Elon’s gang is up to is illegal, but we’re in a post rule of law era now.

I'm labeling Musk’s takeover of the federal payment system a “coup,” with no qualifiers.
Putting into his LLM (large language model).
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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It’s extremely disturbing to think of all the ways Musk could abuse the payment system.

Musk wanted to make Twitter a financial platform. What’s to stop him from privatizing the government payment function and moving it to an X platform where he can get a fee for every transaction? I’m sure he can “prove” that would be cheaper and more efficient.

If he gets access to this, he can put pressure on other federal employees to grant him illegal access to other resources he doesn’t have lawful rights to. Such as, a SCIF that contains information useful to the foreign political patrons we all know he serves (Russia and China foremost).

He’s a master of double signaling. Just as dogs will lap up their own vomit to redigest it. All of the “government too big” zombies will lap this up as “hooray, he’s cutting off bureaucratic moochers from sucking on the public tit.”

I’m certain that much of what Elon’s gang is up to is illegal, but we’re in a post rule of law era now.

I'm labeling Musk’s takeover of the federal payment system a “coup,” with no qualifiers.
It's even more disturbing when you hear that Trump is floating the idea of setting up a "sovereign wealth fund", ostensibly to make it easier for America to purchase TikTok. In other words...we're setting up a Sovereign Wealth Fund and purchasing Chinese assets? Musk, who could be compromised, now controls the system we would use to authorize payments from this "sovereign wealth fund"?? Oh, and this "wealth fund" was created on the same day that USAID shut down?? This is how you deliver the grift and mint new oligarchs based on loyalty.

Things that make you go, "Hmm..."
 

VRAMdemon

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It's even more disturbing when you hear that Trump is floating the idea of setting up a "sovereign wealth fund", ostensibly to make it easier for America to purchase TikTok. In other words...we're setting up a Sovereign Wealth Fund and purchasing Chinese assets? Musk, who could be compromised, now controls the system we would use to authorize payments from this "sovereign wealth fund"?? Oh, and this "wealth fund" was created on the same day that USAID shut down?? This is how you deliver the grift and mint new oligarchs based on loyalty.

Things that make you go, "Hmm..."

The first rule of oligarchy is that autocrats (oligarchs) band together. That's what is going on at the moment. Oligarchies are like mafias: cliques of oligarchs with a dominant figure at the top.

Tesla vehicles are on the procurement list of several Chinese provinces. This is the first time a Non-Chinese owned automaker has been included on the list. Where will Musks interest lie? He is collecting information, even payment information, during his government raids. What if he feeds them into his AI model and then say he can replace many processes with AI generated Processes and eliminate whole load of government employees. He can make profit from them and even control parts of the system. Is it legal?

It all suggests that any undermining of Western democracies serves the interests of Trump and his supporters. Their approach appears to mirror China's strategy of influencing political shifts in various nations to facilitate far-right leadership transitions. Far right parties are more tolerant to Chinese and Russian interests.
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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Corruption is the name of the game. It's always been with Trump and now Musk is taking it to the next level. The Russification if America is in motion. In absolutely record time.
 
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